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    Jun 18, 2008 12:01:56 PM

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    997 FL : BOSE Upgrade

    Anybody else noticed that the FL has had the power rating of the BOSE Amp lifted from 325W to 385W. Both old and new systems have 7.1 channels and 13 speakers so it looks like the enhancement is limited to the Amp.

    Still should make for an even better sound from Bose. Cant wait to hear it.

    Jun 18, 2008 12:10:53 PM

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    Re: 997 FL : BOSE Upgrade

    seems bose incorporated DCI direct current injection into tehir amps

    Jun 18, 2008 12:25:06 PM

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    LOL, if only we had got +60BHP instead of +60W

    Jun 20, 2008 12:54:22 AM

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    Re: 997 FL : BOSE Upgrade

    What's an FL?

    Jun 20, 2008 1:06:30 AM

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    Re: 997 FL : BOSE Upgrade

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    What's an FL?



    FL = Face Lift

    Jun 22, 2008 9:06:51 AM

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    Re: 997 FL : BOSE Upgrade

    I wouldn't bother specifying it again. The 997 cabin is so noisy so as to make any enhancements in the sound quality a total waste of time and money at the cost of extra weight.

    Now on the Cayenne it's a very different story and worth the dosh. On the 997 it's just bragging rights.

    Jun 22, 2008 10:51:05 AM

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    I hate bose. Doesn't work, never will.

    Jun 22, 2008 10:57:51 AM

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    Re: 997 FL : BOSE Upgrade

    I said the same thing to my dealer and particularly as the Porsche sound upgrade is now standard. They have managed to convince me that its a false economy as 2nd hand buyers look for a car at this level to have a "premium" sound system. I have a BMW 1 series convertible with the mid level system which was about a Pounds300 option and its way superior to any of the Bose systems I've had in a 911. I agree though that the Cayenne system is fantastic - shame that I hated the car so much I sold it after 4 months.

    Jun 22, 2008 1:55:58 PM

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    Re: 997 FL : BOSE Upgrade

    Unlike 20-30 bhp which is definitely noticable in a 3200 pound car, 60 additional watts is virtually meaningless as the watts would effectively need to double to make a significant audible impact. Bose performance is highly dependant on the cabin accoustics which are very poor in the Carrera.

    Jun 22, 2008 9:44:40 PM

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    Bose upgrade doesn't impress me. Consensus seems to be it is marginal for a "premium" system. Plus, their TV advertising shows overpriced products that seem to have "name-recognition" among senior citizens as their strongest selling-points.

    Jun 22, 2008 10:32:30 PM

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    Yep no Bose for me - it is cute that they matched the watt output to the bhp of the car, but I can only ever hear the engine anyway???

    Jun 24, 2008 12:54:35 PM

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    I did not spec Bose in my 2009. I can;t stand the boomy loose bass and harsh treble the Bose systems seem to have. If the stock stereo is not good enough I will go aftermarket.

    Jun 24, 2008 3:06:15 PM

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    BTW, there's more room back there without the speaker box:

    Jun 24, 2008 10:50:04 PM

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    I was going to order the bose but everyone is saying to go aftermarket. I thought it was not possible to go aftermarket due to the fibre optic wiring used.

    Jun 24, 2008 11:24:24 PM

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    I was going to order the bose but everyone is saying to go aftermarket. I thought it was not possible to go aftermarket due to the fibre optic wiring used.



    Wait: you want to order at least some level of Bose to get the speaker holes and grilles, right?

    Jun 25, 2008 12:32:26 AM

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    I was going to order the bose but everyone is saying to go aftermarket. I thought it was not possible to go aftermarket due to the fibre optic wiring used.



    Wait: you want to order at least some level of Bose to get the speaker holes and grilles, right?



    Huh? Am I missing something? Ordering the Bose is ordering the Bose Audio Upgrade. I am not sure what you mean.

    Jun 25, 2008 2:49:28 AM

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    Huh? Am I missing something? Ordering the Bose is ordering the Bose Audio Upgrade. I am not sure what you mean.



    I'm sorry. What I meant: get the Bose so you can have the speaker holes and grilles and trim. Get ANY Bose, FL upgraded or not. Sorry to mislead.

    Jun 25, 2008 3:16:24 AM

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    LOL, if only we had got +60BHP instead of +60W






    Imagine a writer asking a Porsche exec a few months ago what the "power" gain would be in the FL. He could have stated "truthfully" that " in some versions you will see +60 ".

    Jun 25, 2008 5:12:07 AM

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    Huh? Am I missing something? Ordering the Bose is ordering the Bose Audio Upgrade. I am not sure what you mean.



    I'm sorry. What I meant: get the Bose so you can have the speaker holes and grilles and trim. Get ANY Bose, FL upgraded or not. Sorry to mislead.



    Ah, I understand, but will going to aftermarket speakers be possible? I was never able to in my Cayenne due to the fibre optic wiring.

    Jun 25, 2008 12:50:00 PM

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    Re: 997 FL : BOSE Upgrade

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    I did not spec Bose in my 2009. I can;t stand the boomy loose bass and harsh treble the Bose systems seem to have. If the stock stereo is not good enough I will go aftermarket.



    Due to the comparatively poor performance in the first version and since the system is revised anyway, I would be more than surprised if the new Bose system would not offer significant improvements in sound.

    Jun 27, 2008 11:31:35 AM

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    Re: 997 FL : BOSE Upgrade

    what I noticed on the pricelist is that you can't choose Porsche sound system as an option anymore, whereas you could on my 987 boxster ?

    or maybe the 997's have it as a standard?

    Jun 27, 2008 2:02:23 PM

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    Ah, I understand, but will going to aftermarket speakers be possible? I was never able to in my Cayenne due to the fibre optic wiring.



    Just rewire? AFAIK, having the holes, and the grilles and all the trim makes things much easier and better looking and _maybe_cheaper for doing a re-fit.

    Jun 27, 2008 7:48:50 PM

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    Re: 997 FL : BOSE Upgrade

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    what I noticed on the pricelist is that you can't choose Porsche sound system as an option anymore, whereas you could on my 987 boxster ?

    or maybe the 997's have it as a standard?



    The sound system plus is standard on the 997
     
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