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Jun 1, 2005 6:09:14 PM

JL13: Pilot; Loc: USA; Posts: 361, Gallery; Registered on: May 20, 2005

Speeding Ticket

Today, i got pull over by a cop 123 on a 60mph. Wow, it scared the hack out of me. I thought I have to go to jail... 4 cop cars pull up on me and saying how dangerous I am. For some reason, they ended up letting me go but before they did, they keep on questioning me about the car. Since i am so young, they told me to get out of the car and have me wait aside. I wonder what would happen next. Any one got a speeding ticket even worst then mine? I am sure i need a good lawyer in order for me to get this ticket out of me. Oh well, I had a great time testing out the car

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Jun 1, 2005 6:28:52 PM

Holminator: Veteran; Loc: USA , United States; Posts: 1041, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 28, 2004; Reply to: JL13

Re: Speeding Ticket

Sounds like they didn't have any data on your actual speed--radars off & Lidar not deployed. Sounds like they wanted to scare you--common police tactic in the States when they don't have enough evidence. I'd recommend getting one of these: www.valentine1.com. It's saved me several thousand dollars in the last few years!

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Jun 1, 2005 7:22:45 PM

69bossnine: Rennteam Pro; Loc: FL, USA , United States; Posts: 2028, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 27, 2005; Reply to: Holminator

Re: Speeding Ticket

I got a ticket for 117 in a 55 zone out in the MIDDLE OF NOWHERE in my '97 S351 Saleen when it was practically 2-weeks old. I was on my way back from a remote camping trip on the coast, arrow-straight and wide road, early morning, tired, a bit hung-over, desperate for a shower, and had not seen a car for miles and miles. So I had the cruise control set on 125, and the car was just chugging along like it was a slow jog. Off in the distance I see a single white car approaching. It's 6:45 AM, and I think, "the odds of that being an officer are slim to...... OH SH**!!! By the time I tapped-off the cruise, he had me clocked at 117. I was pulled over on the side of the road before he could even get turned around. He lectured me about how I was endangering MYSELF, and how I could have hit a deer and killed myself. I politely looked confused and asked him, "what do you care if I happen to plow a deer. Isn't that pretty much my problem??". He didn't like that, threatened to take me to jail, but by that time another officer pulled up, appearing to calm him down, and he wound up just scratching me a ticket for speeding. I was lucky I didn't get a reckless driving ticket, but again, ticket me for recklessly endangering MYSELF?? I detest people that speed excessively on crowded roadways, or where there are blind drives and intersections. But if a tree falls in the forest, and nobody hears it, does it make a sound??? That's kind of the point I had when I got nabbed. Just to give you some context, the entire 20 minutes I spent on the side of the road, a car never passed in either direction. We were truly all by ourselves out there!! For any Florida locals, I was 25 miles east of Cedar Key, and had camped at the Waccasassa river.

Sorry about the ticket. You've really got to choose your moments wisely when you open her up. But if you're not around any other motorists, I wish the police would be more understanding. Considering the crazy crap they do when they are off duty!! (I have alot of law enforcement friends...)

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Jun 1, 2005 7:33:37 PM

MMD: Rennteam VIP; Loc: usa; Posts: 9652, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 16, 2004; Reply to: 69bossnine

Re: Speeding Ticket

Here's my no-ticket policy:

Never speed at night (just keep up with traffic).

Always have a rabbit in front of you if you are speeding.

always know who is behind you.

Never speed if there's cars coming at you in the opposite direction (you could get zapped).

So this is the bottom line:

Treat your 997/S like a normal means of transportation. 80 percent of the time it's as good as any other new-ish car on the road.

For brief moments it becomes a frickin' rocket. To get in front of slow drivers by passing them in an instant, to thrill your passengers for a few seconds, etc. To open it up on teh expressway on ramp, whatever.

Bottom line: unless you're keeping up with the mass of other speeding traffic you can't speed on a routine basis.

I'm sure I left out some important details, but I gotta speed outta here.

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Jun 1, 2005 10:28:38 PM

1080iAddict: Junior; Loc: USA; Posts: 70, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 22, 2005; Reply to: MMD

Re: Speeding Ticket

OK. Here are my speeding pointers:

1. NEVER get caught alone on the open road. ALWAYS mix in with traffic, sorta like the cops when they have their gun out and criss-cross among the various covers like dumpsters and pillars and other walls as they approach the suspect. In other words, speed up to the next car and get behind it, then foward hop to the next car and get behind it, and so on. Use these cars as cover, but NEVER sit in the fast lane and cruise without cover.

2. NEVER speed on a long blind curve. There will almost always be a cop waiting at the end. If you dont have at least 3/4 mile viz regarding both shoulders of the road, slow down.

3. I AGREE - Dont speed at night unless you are car hopping - - see above

4. ALWAYS watch other car brake lights. If they come on for no apparent reason on the open road - slow down immediately - its a cop.

5. ALWAYS watch opposite lane headlights for flashing brights indicating a cop is hiding.

good luck all!

-adam

speed around a blind curve

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Jun 1, 2005 10:30:45 PM

JL13: Pilot; Loc: USA; Posts: 361, Gallery; Registered on: May 20, 2005; Reply to: Holminator

Re: Speeding Ticket

Quote:
Holminator said:
Sounds like they didn't have any data on your actual speed--radars off & Lidar not deployed. Sounds like they wanted to scare you--common police tactic in the States when they don't have enough evidence. I'd recommend getting one of these: www.valentine1.com. It's saved me several thousand dollars in the last few years!

Does this radar really works? I heard that it is not as good as the escort and there are new radar on the street now that the rader detecter can't detect. I have the Solo S2 Escort and it sucks!!!!! every time it goes on the cops is beside me or directly behind me. There are no time for reaction!
Well, I really doubt that people who drive this kind of car won't get a speeding ticket since it is such a fun car to drive!!!

I called my lawyer to day and he said that it is hard for me to get the ticket completely off, i might have to end up taking some driving classes.. Oh Well, as long as my licence is not taken away and preventing me drive this beautiful beast, I am fine with that!!

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Jun 1, 2005 11:45:12 PM

JimFlat6: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Cave , United States; Posts: 8633, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 25, 2004; Reply to: 1080iAddict

Re: Speeding Ticket

Quote:
1080iAddict said:
OK. Here are my speeding pointers:

1. NEVER get caught alone on the open road. ALWAYS mix in with traffic, sorta like the cops when they have their gun out and criss-cross among the various covers like dumpsters and pillars and other walls as they approach the suspect. In other words, speed up to the next car and get behind it, then foward hop to the next car and get behind it, and so on. Use these cars as cover, but NEVER sit in the fast lane and cruise without cover.

2. NEVER speed on a long blind curve. There will almost always be a cop waiting at the end. If you dont have at least 3/4 mile viz regarding both shoulders of the road, slow down.

3. I AGREE - Dont speed at night unless you are car hopping - - see above

4. ALWAYS watch other car brake lights. If they come on for no apparent reason on the open road - slow down immediately - its a cop.

5. ALWAYS watch opposite lane headlights for flashing brights indicating a cop is hiding.

good luck all!

-adam

Basically its called "situational awareness." You are the hunted, so think about how they would hunt you. Your rear and 3/4 rear vision is as important as the front. Cops will hunt you down sometimes using the same tactics you mentioned to avoid them.

Also, in the US, big rig trucks sometimes alert the cops if they see you really haulin a$$, even if they are two or three lanes over, or going the other way.

In most states estimation of speed, eg "i saw you going over the speed limit and I observed you were going 90mph " is not enough to write a ticket with. Sometimes, thats all the officer has though, so if they stop you and try to get you to admit how fast you were going, don't. Don't get cute, friendly or smart a$$d about anything they say or try to intimidate you with. I even had one officer say "Im just curious, how fast were you going over a hundred." He asked 7 times, each time movihng closer until we were nose to nose. Never admit to anything, you don't have to, so don't!!!!

Be polite and professional. Lots of police are jealous that they dont own a nice sportscar and view a flagrantly fast speeder as a target that has warrants, is drunk, stole the car, has drugs or all of those. The idea of owning a 170mph
sportscar is not remotely in their minds!!!!!!!!!

Keep your eyes open 360 degrees. Speeding is full time work. Don't get slack or cavalier about it!

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Jun 2, 2005 12:12:14 AM

nicholas j: Senior; Loc: Upstate New York , United States; Posts: 646, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 23, 2004; Reply to: Holminator

Re: Speeding Ticket

I agree with your choice Holminator. There is nothing better than a valentineone. The arrows tell the story!

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Jun 2, 2005 1:24:28 AM

tooner: Veteran; Loc: SF-Bay Area; Posts: 832, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 8, 2005; Reply to: JimFlat6

Re: Speeding Ticket

Quote:
JimFlat6 said:
Quote:
1080iAddict said:
In most states estimation of speed, eg "i saw you going over the speed limit and I observed you were going 90mph " is not enough to write a ticket with. Sometimes, thats all the officer has though, so if they stop you and try to get you to admit how fast you were going, don't. Don't get cute, friendly or smart a$$d about anything they say or try to intimidate you with. I even had one officer say "Im just curious, how fast were you going over a hundred." He asked 7 times, each time movihng closer until we were nose to nose. Never admit to anything, you don't have to, so don't!!!!

This could quite possibly be the best advice...

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Jun 2, 2005 3:13:59 AM

MMD: Rennteam VIP; Loc: usa; Posts: 9652, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 16, 2004; Reply to: JL13

Battery powered units are BAD!

Quote:
JL13 said:
I have the Solo S2 Escort and it sucks!!!!!

There's your biggest mistake. The battery powered units are [insert expletive of your choice].

Notice in all their advertizing they are NEVER compared to the 12v versions, only to other alkaline battery powered units.

The reason is they do NOT have the range and sensitivity of the 12v units. They CAN'T; to work optimally a detector must have lots of power for it's own antenna. Only 12v units should occupy your time and money. I learned this along time ago from informed sources; do not waste your time doubting it.

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Jun 2, 2005 3:46:45 AM

JL13: Pilot; Loc: USA; Posts: 361, Gallery; Registered on: May 20, 2005; Reply to: MMD

Re: Battery powered units are BAD!

I was suppose to buy the 8500 passport but the salesman talk me into this one. He said that it is exactly the same except the battery source. I was doubting it at that time but now i am sure that he doesn't know what he is talking about.

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Jun 2, 2005 4:16:37 AM

mrcohanian: Newbie; Loc: NJ; Posts: 32, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 11, 2003; Reply to: JL13

Re: Battery powered units are BAD!

I like the Bel Rx-65. Much better than the Valentine in my opinion... Valentine gives to many false alarms...

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Jun 2, 2005 7:26:36 AM

Jeff (in SF): Pilot; Loc: SF, CA, USA , United States; Posts: 340, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 13, 2003; Reply to: tooner

Re: Speeding Ticket

All I can say is...why aren't you guys here to keep me company in CA? I wish even 10% of the drivers out here in the Bay Area put that much effort into watching traffic and thinking about what's around them instead of camping out in the left lane, under the speed limit, on the cell phone, until they're about 10 feet from their exit and merge off the highway anyway.....

Sucks to drive in CA.

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Jun 2, 2005 11:04:55 AM

Holminator: Veteran; Loc: USA , United States; Posts: 1041, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 28, 2004; Reply to: JL13

Re: Speeding Ticket

Quote:
JL13 said:
Quote:
Holminator said:
Sounds like they didn't have any data on your actual speed--radars off & Lidar not deployed. Sounds like they wanted to scare you--common police tactic in the States when they don't have enough evidence. I'd recommend getting one of these: www.valentine1.com. It's saved me several thousand dollars in the last few years!

Does this radar really works? I heard that it is not as good as the escort and there are new radar on the street now that the rader detecter can't detect. I have the Solo S2 Escort and it sucks!!!!! every time it goes on the cops is beside me or directly behind me. There are no time for reaction!
Well, I really doubt that people who drive this kind of car won't get a speeding ticket since it is such a fun car to drive!!!
I called my lawyer to day and he said that it is hard for me to get the ticket completely off, i might have to end up taking some driving classes.. Oh Well, as long as my licence is not taken away and preventing me drive this beautiful beast, I am fine with that!!

I have a friend, who had an Escort; we like to ride in formation around some backroads near my home that I call the Nanjamoy Circuit. We use FRS radios, too. I consistently detected bogies before he did and had fewer false alarms, partly because of the arrow indicator, which tells you the direction of the emittor, which no other detector has!

He dumped the Escort for the V1 as well. The Escort's flaw is the battery more than anything else. Weak battery equals low detection threshold. I hardwired my V1 into the car so when the vehicle fusebox.

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Jun 2, 2005 1:16:05 PM

Steve R: Senior; Loc: UK - Edinburgh; Posts: 695, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 17, 2005; Reply to: MMD

Re: Battery powered units are BAD!

I posted a while ago on passing two laser camera cop vans while speeding. Both times I was in the slow lane when I noticed them and from the position of the lens and type of gun I'm sure it was pointed at the fast lane.

My rule of thumb - never speed when you feel the urge to put your foot down - that's when most people will speed and the cops know where those places are. Use your head and you'll avoid them. Not had a ticket since I was 17 and I do like to drive fast quite often (safely of course....)

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Jun 2, 2005 2:32:03 PM

69bossnine: Rennteam Pro; Loc: FL, USA , United States; Posts: 2028, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 27, 2005; Reply to: Steve R

Re: Battery powered units are BAD!

Mike won't like this, but I stopped getting speeding tickets when I stopped using a radar detector 6 years ago. With no detector, you're forced to use your head and drive smart. With a detector, you tend to allow it to baby-sit you, and no detector is going to protect you 100%. You subliminally slip into brain-dead mode. It got to the point that I determined that all my detector was good for was irritating false signals, and for letting me know right away that I was busted, just prior to the cop hitting the lights and jumping across the median. When the instant-on radar nails you, and your detector goes WHAAAAA!!!!, it's too late, so what's the point. I know that it can save you when it detects traffic ahead being clocked, but it's Russian Roulette, isn't it? In Florida, you're pretty much safe with the 10 mph rule. If you're not doing 10 mph over the limit, you're safe. That means 80 mph on the interstate, and 75 mph on most rural roads is o.k.. I don't need to go any faster than that on a regular basis, and when I do want to have some fun and make some pace, I do it in the country where the cops rarely venture.

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Jun 2, 2005 3:18:02 PM

MMD: Rennteam VIP; Loc: usa; Posts: 9652, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 16, 2004; Reply to: 69bossnine

Detectors are ALMOST useless

The only thing thay are good for is detecting the zapping that might go on in front or behind you. THAT's valuable information.

Other than detecting an ambush that's not your own, they're not much use.

Oh, the constant-on that most cops use all the time to desensitize you, well, better to know about that too, put your foot on the brake anyway.

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Jun 2, 2005 3:21:29 PM

W8MM: Rennteam Master; Loc: Cincinnati, OH , United States; Posts: 3995, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 8, 2003; Reply to: 69bossnine

Re: Battery powered units are BAD!

Quote:
69bossnine said:
Mike won't like this, but ...

I vainly assume that I am the Mike in reference.

I get fewer speeding tickets these days, too. I think it comes from the onset of old age. In days gone by, when the 55 MPH speed limit was still new, I was much younger and the highway environment was different. Then, if traveling at 58 MPH, one stuck out like a sore thumb. The risk of a ticket was severe, no matter how much north of 55 one traveled. Why not go 100?

Today, the left lane routinely travels at 75-80 MPH on most rural freeways, and faster in states with limits higher than 65. I can cruise in serenity at only 10 to 15 MPH less than the gonzo runs from 25 years ago. So, I don't stick out from the pack as much anymore.

I'm also 25 years smarter about when to press my luck. I occasionally drive the CGT without any AWACS because I haven't had it back to the dealer to put in a hard-wire kit for me yet. It creates a whole ton of attention from all sorts of passers by, including curious officers of the law. No amount of electronic defenses could possibly make the CGT disappear from patrolmens' curiosity screens, so I'm left with my wits as protection.

When using one's wits to high effect, it is possible to have brief flirtations with the 3-digit temptress, but not long affairs. Any sort of prolonged or repetitive relationship with enjoyments of these sorts requires the addition of some electronic protection.

These days, I use more of my wits than I'd like, but have an electronic companion to fall back on.

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Jun 2, 2005 3:21:32 PM

SoCal Alan: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Orange County , United States; Posts: 7268, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 6, 2004; Reply to: MMD

Re: Detectors are ALMOST useless

It's good for allowing you to pull to the side of the road quicker for the cops, before they even turn on their lights. As a result, maybe they'll just give you a warning instead of a ticket.

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Jun 2, 2005 4:01:36 PM

SrfCity: Expert; Loc: Orange County, CA; Posts: 1339, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 21, 2004; Reply to: SoCal Alan

Re: Detectors are ALMOST useless

A detector IMO is a great "awareness" or intelligence device. Personally I don't find myself getting lazy when it's turned on. What it will help you with is the sneeky places cops like to use to nail you. Not unless you know those areas well and have "ESP", I think you'd be at a disadvantage without the assistance of a detector.

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Jun 2, 2005 4:09:02 PM

Holminator: Veteran; Loc: USA , United States; Posts: 1041, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 28, 2004; Reply to: SrfCity

Re: Detectors are ALMOST useless

Concur with SrfCity. It's technology and combat tactics that have kept me ticket free. The technology is just a boost. The tactics, for example, involve common sense, like seeing a car on the shoulder of the road far into the distance and slowing down immediately because it could be a lidar trap or worst like a disabled car/motorists not aware of what is coming down the road at over 100 mph (for law enforcement authorities reading this, umm, I never exceed the speed limit; I just dream about it a lot).

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Jun 2, 2005 5:30:23 PM

madadd: Co-Pilot; Loc: uk; Posts: 240, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 4, 2005; Reply to: MMD

Re: Speeding Ticket

Why not speed at night?

I only ever speed badly at night.

Where I live, most mobile traps require light to operate to take a photo, thus you are only likely to be got by the static traps (and my GPS detector knows where they are!)

Also, traffic police numbers are at their lowest during the night time. The policing on the UK's major roads and motorways is greatest when it is needed (at the busiest times). At 2am you are far, far less likely to find a traffic policeman that at 6pm.

Maybe this is different in the USA?

...Add

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Jun 2, 2005 5:41:15 PM

69bossnine: Rennteam Pro; Loc: FL, USA , United States; Posts: 2028, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 27, 2005; Reply to: SoCal Alan

Re: Detectors are ALMOST useless

Quote:
SoCal Alan said:
It's good for allowing you to pull to the side of the road quicker for the cops, before they even turn on their lights. As a result, maybe they'll just give you a warning instead of a ticket.

Yes, even if you don't have a detector, when you know you're nailed, and the trooper is on his brakes trying to slow down to circle around after you, a quick retreat to the side of the road on your own accord really scores points with weary officers tired of having to chase down offenders, and then get assaulted by their lame acts and weak denials and eventual sob stories. Back in '94 or-so in my mildly modded '93 Corvette 6-speed I got let go after being caught red-handed racing a Turbo Supra at fairly high-speed (he saw us doing at least 120), simply because I pulled over immediately. The guy I was racing continued on, so the cop sped by me and pulled over the Supra about 1/2 mile ahead of where I pulled aside. I just stayed put. The officer took the other driver's license, then jumped in his cruiser and headed back to talk to me. He asked what I was doing, and I replied "I was racing the fella you've got pulled over ahead of me. To tell you the truth, I've been dying to get a piece of one of those new Supras, and I followed him all the way out of town just to get the room to have a good go". He said, "I appreciated your honesty. The other guy is trying to tell me some b.s. story." Then he handed me my license and said, "go ahead and go. The guy up there isn't very smart". I couldn't believe my ears, I asked for clarity, "you mean I can go?". "Yep". And off I went. Always be polite and brutally honest with officers. They know when you're screwing with them, and they don't need clocked speed to issue you a reckless driving ticket.

BTW, I put a good spanking on the Supra. We had two solid 50-120 mph pulls under our belts, and we were in the midst of a 3rd run (just to put an exclamation point on my dominance!!

) when we were nabbed!

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Jun 2, 2005 5:42:07 PM

1080iAddict: Junior; Loc: USA; Posts: 70, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 22, 2005; Reply to: madadd

Re: Speeding Ticket

At the end of the day, long straight highway on-ramps are your best bet. As far as I know, there is no acceleration limit and you are free to get from 0 to 55 (or even 65 on 65 mph roads) as fast as you possibly can without getting busted - even if there was a cop right behind you.

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Jun 2, 2005 5:43:57 PM

MMD: Rennteam VIP; Loc: usa; Posts: 9652, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 16, 2004; Reply to: madadd

Re: Speeding Ticket

Quote:
madadd said:
Why not speed at night?

I only ever speed badly at night.

Maybe this is different in the USA?

...Add

In USA at night you get ambushed (zapped) without any warning by cops on wheels. At night there's no information for you anywhere. Can't tell who's behind you. Any car with headlights can be a cop. No terrain to be seen. Stuff like that.

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Jun 2, 2005 5:46:26 PM

Mike S: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Somewhere , Taiwan; Posts: 7720, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 3, 2005; Reply to: MMD

Re: Speeding Ticket

our police are lazy and corrupt, i've only seen a cop car once or twice at night patrolling, so speeding at night(not that i encourage speeding) is the safest time

just watch out for animals that run occasionally across the road

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Jun 2, 2005 5:47:06 PM

MMD: Rennteam VIP; Loc: usa; Posts: 9652, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 16, 2004; Reply to: 1080iAddict

Re: Speeding Ticket

Quote:
1080iAddict said:
At the end of the day, long straight highway on-ramps are your best bet. As far as I know, there is no acceleration limit and you are free to get from 0 to 55 (or even 65 on 65 mph roads) as fast as you possibly can without getting busted - even if there was a cop right behind you.

If your PSM engages because your tail is slipping and a cop sees it? He'll loooooooove to give you a ticket for wreckless driving. Some such cr*p like that. You know, anything that's different from a braindead driver in a Ford Taurus is gonna get them all excited and ticket happy.

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Jun 2, 2005 5:47:22 PM

tooner: Veteran; Loc: SF-Bay Area; Posts: 832, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 8, 2005; Reply to: Jeff (in SF)

Re: Speeding Ticket

Quote:
Jeff (in SF) said:
All I can say is...why aren't you guys here to keep me company in CA? I wish even 10% of the drivers out here in the Bay Area put that much effort into watching traffic and thinking about what's around them instead of camping out in the left lane, under the speed limit, on the cell phone, until they're about 10 feet from their exit and merge off the highway anyway.....

Sucks to drive in CA.

Jeff I feel your pain brother... Somehow "on ramp merge" was not part of the drivers ED up here in the bay....

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Jun 2, 2005 5:49:53 PM

Ente: Senior; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 781, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 24, 2005; Reply to: Holminator

Re: Detectors are ALMOST useless

Regading speeding at night in the US: Besides the obvious risks (visibility and reaction time problems in case of roadkill, obstacles, potholes), it is tricky because you don't know if that isn't a cop behind you, matching your speed. It works somewhat if you manage to find a comfy sandwich position and move in a trusted group.

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Jun 2, 2005 7:07:40 PM

SrfCity: Expert; Loc: Orange County, CA; Posts: 1339, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 21, 2004; Reply to: Ente

Re: Detectors are ALMOST useless

I think it's way different over here at night. If you're speeding you stand out like a soar thumb. There are probably as many cops at night(if not more) here then during the day. Besides people tend to drive a little slower at night(visibility) so it probably accentuates your speed a bit.

Here in So. CA if you speed in the right lane I find it a bit easier as many people like to hang out in the left. And, as it turns out the right is a little less obvious.

If you find something that works then go for it and remember, stay under the radar

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