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May 24, 2008 1:25:44 PM

mv: Senior; Loc:; Posts: 519, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 8, 2004

Scuderia Quattroruote test

Finally, Scud in Quattroruote road test.

0-100 km/h: 3,4 s
0-160 km/h: 7,3 s
0-200 km/h: 11,0 s
0-250 km/h: 19,1 s

New lap record at Vairano track :

1.15,169 min - Ferrari 430 Scuderia
1.16,170 min - Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera
1.17,349 min - Porsche Carrera GT
1.17,448 min - Ferrari Enzo Ferrari
1.18,460 min - Audi R8 R-tronic

http://img243.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=18324_quattroruote_430_scuderia_122_254lo.jpg

http://img243.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=18324_quattroruote_430_scuderia_122_254lo.jpg

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May 24, 2008 4:04:41 PM

Rossi: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Home , Germany; Posts: 12682, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: mv

Re: Scuderia Quattroruote test

One second faster than the Superleggera and 2,5 seconds faster than the Enzo. I'd say that's pretty quick.

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May 24, 2008 4:12:54 PM

intouch1: Rennteam Master; Loc: Red Sea , Egypt; Posts: 5752, Gallery; Registered on: May 22, 2004; Reply to: Rossi

Re: Scuderia Quattroruote test

how come Quattroroute always posts times nobody else is capable off.....just like R&T

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May 24, 2008 4:40:58 PM

mv: Senior; Loc:; Posts: 519, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 8, 2004; Reply to: Rossi

Re: Scuderia Quattroruote test

The numbers are perfectly in line with the AMS test. Just the 0-100km/h time is 0,2s better. 100-160, 160-200 are identical.

I agree though, that 3,4s for 0-100km/h is quite ridiculous. US mags with their 96km/h time and 1-foot rollout should achieve almost 3s dead, then.

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Rossi said:
One second faster than the Superleggera and 2,5 seconds faster than the Enzo. I'd say that's pretty quick.

The CGT and Enzo times are not directly comparable. The track has undergone a reconstruction and the tarmac is now better.

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May 24, 2008 4:54:46 PM

SciFrog: Rennteam VIP; Loc: USA , United States; Posts: 9870, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 15, 2005; Reply to: mv

Re: Scuderia Quattroruote test

Just read SA achieved 7.39 at NBR... Not bad but was expecting a tad lower. 3s slower than the Enzo... Just makes the GT-R times not credible...

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May 24, 2008 6:42:10 PM

Duncan: Pilot; Loc: Driftland; Posts: 410, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 3, 2005; Reply to: mv

Re: Scuderia Quattroruote test

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mv said:
Finally, Scud in Quattroruote road test.

0-100 km/h: 3,4 s
0-160 km/h: 7,3 s
0-200 km/h: 11,0 s
0-250 km/h: 19,1 s

New lap record at Vairano track :

1.15,169 min - Ferrari 430 Scuderia
1.16,170 min - Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera
1.17,349 min - Porsche Carrera GT
1.17,448 min - Ferrari Enzo Ferrari
1.18,460 min - Audi R8 R-tronic

http://img243.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=18324_quattroruote_430_scuderia_122_254lo.jpg

http://img243.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=18324_quattroruote_430_scuderia_122_254lo.jpg

0-1000m 20,6 s at 255,5km/h

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May 24, 2008 6:52:53 PM

svtrader1: Veteran; Loc:; Posts: 821, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 17, 2003; Reply to: mv

Re: Scuderia Quattroruote test

Wow! Those acelleration numbers are faster than the gt2. And without any turbo lag.

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May 24, 2008 6:53:34 PM

GPdriver: Co-Pilot; Loc: Italy; Posts: 235, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 21, 2005; Reply to: Duncan

Re: Scuderia Quattroruote test

I think we made a good car

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May 25, 2008 2:38:20 AM

lambornima: Junior; Loc: Toronto Canada; Posts: 130, Gallery; Registered on: May 13, 2007; Reply to: SciFrog

Re: Scuderia Quattroruote test

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SciFrog said:
Just read SA achieved 7.39 at NBR... Not bad but was expecting a tad lower. 3s slower than the Enzo... Just makes the GT-R times not credible...

wo, what? Supertest of the F430S is next month. and since when was the Enzo tested on the Nring?

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May 25, 2008 5:30:53 AM

vinnie: Veteran; Loc: Australia , Australia; Posts: 1005, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 25, 2005; Reply to: lambornima

Re: Scuderia Quattroruote test

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lambornima said:
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SciFrog said:
Just read SA achieved 7.39 at NBR... Not bad but was expecting a tad lower. 3s slower than the Enzo... Just makes the GT-R times not credible...

wo, what? Supertest of the F430S is next month. and since when was the Enzo tested on the Nring?

That is what I wondered, I never thought the Enzo was tested at the ring.

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May 25, 2008 8:47:57 AM

Duncan: Pilot; Loc: Driftland; Posts: 410, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 3, 2005; Reply to: vinnie

Re: Scuderia Quattroruote test

320.036 Kph
0-100 Kph 3.38s
0-160 Kph 7.3s
0-200 Kph 11.0s
0-240 Kph 17.2s
1/4 Mile 11.3s @ 202.6 Kph
1 Km 20.6s @ 255.5 Kph

VI gear
70-120 Kph 10.2s
70-200 Kph 23.2s

Brakes (Result strats when the foot touchs the brakes)
100-0 Kph 36.6m (-1.07g)
200-0 Kph 131.9m (-1.19g)

Noise
130 Kph 78.7 dB
160 Kph 83.1 dB
Max 101.3 dB

Weight (with fuel, driver, instruments)
1486 Kg - 3270 lbs (-99 Kg than F430 F1)

Verdict:
+
Fantastic gearbox ( 5/5 "gold")
amazing to drive
Incredibly performances

-
some details'd be better
safety equipment

Easy to go fast, not easy @ the limit"
http://www.supercars.net/Pics?vpf2=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=158869&mID=1321802&l=b

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May 25, 2008 12:12:52 PM

Crash: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Never been to , Antarctica; Posts: 8287, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 17, 2002; Reply to: svtrader1

Re: Scuderia Quattroruote test

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svtrader1 said:
Wow! Those acelleration numbers are faster than the gt2. And without any turbo lag.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but:

Porsche 911(997) GT2: 20.2sec @ 269 km/h

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May 25, 2008 1:32:42 PM

mv: Senior; Loc:; Posts: 519, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 8, 2004; Reply to: Crash

Re: Scuderia Quattroruote test

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Crash said:
Quote:
svtrader1 said:
Wow! Those acelleration numbers are faster than the gt2. And without any turbo lag.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but:

Porsche 911(997) GT2: 20.2sec @ 269 km/h

AFAIK, it is 20,29 at 268,8 km/h, if you mean the automobilismo test. Yeah, way faster. But it would be fair to point out that this example of 997 GT2 was particularly strong, 600hp, or the track is downhill.

It did 0-200km/h in 10,2s, which is pretty off all the results in respectable mags as AZ,AMS,SA and AB SC all did 11,5s/11,6s and 11,1s in SA retest.

Italian Automobilismo/Auto have very strange results. Like the CGT test. Also way too fast. I reckon the track is downhill.

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May 25, 2008 6:07:43 PM

svtrader1: Veteran; Loc:; Posts: 821, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 17, 2003; Reply to: mv

Re: Scuderia Quattroruote test

Good info mv.

Crash likes to pick and choose numbers that make his beloved Porsche look good.

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May 25, 2008 7:28:16 PM

ed_moree: Rennteam Pro; Loc: spain , China; Posts: 2407, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 15, 2005; Reply to: mv

Re: Scuderia Quattroruote test

Italian car, and if it's a red Ferrari even more, in italian magazine = not exactly the truth

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May 25, 2008 9:23:01 PM

Rossi: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Home , Germany; Posts: 12682, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: ed_moree

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ed_moree said:
Italian car, and if it's a red Ferrari even more, in italian magazine = not exactly the truth

Ed, very polite how you said that.

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May 25, 2008 10:25:01 PM

mv: Senior; Loc:; Posts: 519, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 8, 2004; Reply to: ed_moree

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ed_moree said:
Italian car, and if it's a red Ferrari even more, in italian magazine = not exactly the truth

Some porsche test results in italian mags are even more strange though.

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May 26, 2008 6:19:52 AM

BiTurbo: Rennteam Master; Loc: X , United States; Posts: 3252, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 27, 2006; Reply to: Crash

Re: Scuderia Quattroruote test

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Crash said:
Quote:
svtrader1 said:
Wow! Those acelleration numbers are faster than the gt2. And without any turbo lag.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but:

Porsche 911(997) GT2: 20.2sec @ 269 km/h

GT2 with more mileage = Louder & Faster

This is the hidden version of GT2's spec

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May 26, 2008 8:43:38 AM

arakis: Pilot; Loc: Belgrade,Serbia , Serbia and Montenegro; Posts: 302, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 30, 2004; Reply to: BiTurbo

Re: Scuderia Quattroruote test

yeah and a german magazine on a legendary german track with a german driver is the truth, BS.

Either accept bouth tests as the truth or none

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May 26, 2008 11:35:56 AM

Crash: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Never been to , Antarctica; Posts: 8287, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 17, 2002; Reply to: arakis

Re: Scuderia Quattroruote test

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arakis said:
yeah and a german magazine on a legendary german track with a german driver is the truth, BS.

Either accept bouth tests as the truth or none

And your credentials, which give you professional and moral authority for questioning Horst von Saurma's skill and integrity are ...?

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May 26, 2008 11:50:48 AM

intouch1: Rennteam Master; Loc: Red Sea , Egypt; Posts: 5752, Gallery; Registered on: May 22, 2004; Reply to: Crash

Re: Scuderia Quattroruote test

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Crash said:
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arakis said:
yeah and a german magazine on a legendary german track with a german driver is the truth, BS.

Either accept bouth tests as the truth or none

And your credentials, which give you professional and moral authority for questioning Horst von Saurma's skill and integrity are ...?

+1 one of the fchatters i guess.....

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May 26, 2008 1:39:03 PM

arakis: Pilot; Loc: Belgrade,Serbia , Serbia and Montenegro; Posts: 302, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 30, 2004; Reply to: intouch1

Re: Scuderia Quattroruote test

and who gave you the authority to question quattroroute ability, or fairness

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May 26, 2008 1:42:18 PM

arakis: Pilot; Loc: Belgrade,Serbia , Serbia and Montenegro; Posts: 302, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 30, 2004; Reply to: arakis

Re: Scuderia Quattroruote test

and to answer your question, The allmighty internet God, called "I am alowed to have my oppinion, and to express it where ever I like"

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May 26, 2008 1:45:39 PM

Crash: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Never been to , Antarctica; Posts: 8287, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 17, 2002; Reply to: arakis

Re: Scuderia Quattroruote test

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arakis said:
and who gave you the authority to question quattroroute ability, or fairness

I'm not sure your reading comprehension is up to scratch. I have never questioned the Quattroruote results in this case, as they seem perfectly plausible. On the other hand, you have spoken disrespectfully of a highly respected journalist, who has decades of experience, and yet you have absolutely no proof to back up your statements.

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Jun 13, 2008 11:07:15 PM

zaf52: Newbie; Loc: romania , Romania; Posts: 35, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 13, 2008; Reply to: Crash

Re: Scuderia Quattroruote test

just to add few straight data to the discussion:
1. gt2 acceleration times from "auto" (italian) magazine:
0-100kmh=3.92
0-400m=11.61 (207)
0-1000m=20.59 (269)
max speed:324
lap time (balocco):less than a sec off cgt time. (see http://www.fastestlaps.com/track27.html)

2. quattroruote is obviously biased in favor to german cars, not only in judging cars more popular cars (i have yet to see a test between an italian and a german car where the italian prevails overall-they often publish tests taken word by word from auto motor und sport in which the 4 german cars take the first 4 spots...), but also in the lap times:
http://www.fastestlaps.com/track8.html
for instance take scuderia's predecessor 360challenge stradale which they tested slower that an m3csl or the enzo barely slower than a cgt. that doesn't sound very patriotic to me. they could have easily tested enzo and cgt in monza as well, where the outcome would have been much different.

3. quattroruote lap times of 911gt3rs and superleggera (one german and the other mulatto-german) have been recorded by Prost (although he has been told not to push 100%), which i suppose has some edge over the usual testers.

4. italian "auto" magazine is obviously porsche biased simply because their tester is an official porsche driver competing in the cup. this is why i suppose ferrari does not give cars to "auto" to review.

5.the nurburgring the times of non-100% germans cars recorded by "sport auto" are mostly doctored (i.e. not pushed 100%). lamborghini sent their tester sanna in order to rectify for the lousy split taken by the magazine with the lp640. the same did corvette for the z06. ferrari times are not comparable with porsche ones nor with gt-r's for that matter on that track. they will be when ferrari will decide to send benuzzi or schumacher out for a short holiday
to germany. to give you a rough idea; tiff needell drove both the enzo and scuderia nearly 5 secs slower than ferrari 's official drivers around fiorano's 1 min 25 secs course. put that in perspective.

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Jun 16, 2008 9:39:45 PM

mv: Senior; Loc:; Posts: 519, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 8, 2004; Reply to: zaf52

Re: Scuderia Quattroruote test

Another italian test of the Scud is coming. Automobilismo this time.

The reaction to the results from what is known will be "

"

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Jun 17, 2008 6:13:45 PM

BiTurbo: Rennteam Master; Loc: X , United States; Posts: 3252, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 27, 2006; Reply to: mv

Re: Scuderia Quattroruote test

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGrZmmmsdzc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFc1tdwa1Jc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6TbptlTXKM

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