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    Re: Malaysian F1 Grand Prix

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    Alex18_996CC said:
    the R28 needs so much improvement !!!

    Massa needs to take a break !

    Kimi needs some latin character, lol

    I'm happy for Kubica he did a great job, BMW is just as good as Mclaren...

    Trulli was also one of the winners today, I never thought he was going to maintain his gap vs Hamilton, he did a great job with his toyota..

    Renault's R28, needs to improve so much, Alonso's first curve was a disaster, that's what I call a drift ! , I LOVED WHEN ALONSO AND HEIDFIELD passed Webber, it was amazing, just like historic moment between M.Schumacher and M.Häkinnen ...


    I hope Renault improves for the next GP's, they need to get an overral finish position of 5th-6th at least......

    And what happened to Bourdais???, I was expecting him at least in the top 10, and Rosberg????, wtf happened???

    ALONSO 2009 TO FERRARI!!!!!, ITS TIME !!!!!!!!



    customer team (Red Bull) beats factory Renault... that's gotta hurt

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    Atzporsche said:
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    Alex18_996CC said:
    the R28 needs so much improvement !!!

    Massa needs to take a break !

    Kimi needs some latin character, lol

    I'm happy for Kubica he did a great job, BMW is just as good as Mclaren...

    Trulli was also one of the winners today, I never thought he was going to maintain his gap vs Hamilton, he did a great job with his toyota..

    Renault's R28, needs to improve so much, Alonso's first curve was a disaster, that's what I call a drift ! , I LOVED WHEN ALONSO AND HEIDFIELD passed Webber, it was amazing, just like historic moment between M.Schumacher and M.Häkinnen ...


    I hope Renault improves for the next GP's, they need to get an overral finish position of 5th-6th at least......

    And what happened to Bourdais???, I was expecting him at least in the top 10, and Rosberg????, wtf happened???

    ALONSO 2009 TO FERRARI!!!!!, ITS TIME !!!!!!!!



    customer team (Red Bull) beats factory Renault... that's gotta hurt



    what you said ??? , it did hurt actually , finally when the R28 wakes up it was too late to catch Webber..

    We need a big improvement in the aerodynamics, it has nothing to do with its engine (that's why Red Bull is doing so great), its the aerodynamics of the R28 that are giving so much problems, its too basic in that aspect, I just hope there is room for improvement....

    By the way, I think today we all understand what a monopoly is

    Re: Malaysian F1 Grand Prix

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    Alex18_996CC said:
    ALONSO 2009 TO FERRARI!!!!!, ITS TIME !!!!!!!!



    Not happening. Kimi is going no where and Massa's will be sitting tight at Ferrari until the end of 2010. The only two teams I can see Alonso switching over to in 2009 are Williams or Sauber. At the end he's the one who chose to leave switch to an inferior team.

    As for Bourdais he was the first one to go, he knocked off Rosberg's front wing and then glided off track forcing him to retire. As you can imagine Rosberg was forced to make a long visist in the pit to get a new front wing fitted.

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    Such a boring race. Almost no overtaking with positions changing pretty much only through the pit stops... the best overtaking manoeuvre was by Alonso past Coulthard.

    Kimi drove a good, steady race. Much more level headed than in Australia. But Sepang is a very wide track which punishes drivers much less than Albert Park.

    Massa's days in F1 should be numbered but he has negotiated a sweet deal for 3 seasons while Alonso is stuck in an uncompetitive car.

    Great, great drives by Kubica and Trulli.

    Bad luck for Hamilton with the wheel gun causing problems in the 1st stop and he had a slow 2nd stop too.

    McLaren were struggling today. They need to improve massively to catch up with Ferrari.

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    easy_rider911 said:
    Such a boring race. Almost no overtaking with positions changing pretty much only through the pit stops... the best overtaking manoeuvre was by Alonso past Coulthard.

    Kimi drove a good, steady race. Much more level headed than in Australia. But Sepang is a very wide track which punishes drivers much less than Albert Park.

    Massa's days in F1 should be numbered but he has negotiated a sweet deal for 3 seasons while Alonso is stuck in an uncompetitive car.

    Great, great drives by Kubica and Trulli.

    Bad luck for Hamilton with the wheel gun causing problems in the 1st stop and he had a slow 2nd stop too.

    McLaren were struggling today. They need to improve massively to catch up with Ferrari.


    I think McLaren without the penalty and the pit stop delays would have been at least P2 and P3.

    Re: Malaysian F1 Grand Prix

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    Alex18_996CC said:

    ALONSO 2009 TO FERRARI!!!!!, ITS TIME !!!!!!!!



    NEVER!

    Alonso snubbed Ferrari a few years ago and shouldn't be given another chance. Let him sweat a bit with Renault. It can't be very satisfying being 2 seconds/lap slower.

    As for Kimi and Ferrari - congrats and a job well done. Their race pace was impressive.

    Too bad Massa, once again, showed how bad he really is. To make matters worse, he spun all on his own.

    So far, I'm finding this season interesting. Besides the usual Ferrari/McLaren, other teams are showing good signs - Red Bull, BMW, Toyota, (Williams?).

    Removing traction control was definitely a GOOD move.

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    Well done Kimi. Trulli also drove an amazing race. Does anyone know what happened to Massa? I really don't think he did that on his own. I agree with the commentators. It was very unusual. But if indeed Massa can't drive a non-traction controlled car, Ferrari can always deploy their official number 3 driver - one M. Schumacher.

    Re: Malaysian F1 Grand Prix

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    Heist said:
    I expect Ferrari to have sorted out the issues they had last weekend. They will podium but not win.

    McLaren will be strong and win.

    BMW will be a podium.

    RedBull will pick up 4th place.

    The most interesting battle will be between Renault, Toyota, and Williams.



    Well, looks like I was sort of right. Had Mclaren not been knocked back 5 spots, I'm sure they would have taken the race.

    BMW did podium.

    Toyota in 4th waw a blind side ... I guess they finally got their stuff together.

    The most interesting battle was between a Redbull and Mclaren (Hamilton, Webber)

    Re: Malaysian F1 Grand Prix

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    mp said:
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    Alex18_996CC said:

    ALONSO 2009 TO FERRARI!!!!!, ITS TIME !!!!!!!!



    NEVER!




    Will see, never say NEVER... ....Ask luca di montezemolo about this, I'm sure he will give green light, now even more with Jean Todt out...

    Although I want to see Alonso as you say sweating this season, the R28 needs to improve, and when they reach that point Alonso will do GREAT things (I'm not saying winning races, but fighting for the first 4 positions)....

    From what I've heard and read, the R28 is like the flinstones car!!!!

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    I also have to say, that today's gp was a bit boring, deleting traction control was a good move, but still there isnt enough action...and if most of the races are like this, it wont be worth the effort waking up at 07.00am (in this today's GP case)....

    Kimi was completely the king today, he drived alone, it was like going for a little sunday drive, enjoying the car, and inmediately drive again home for lunch with the family

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    Massa has a contract till the end of 2010 so Ferrari can't get rid of him completely but can he be made Ferrari's test driver instead? Of sorry I forgot, Luca Badoer is better than Massa at that as well!

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    LOL


    Actually I like Massa, for quali, he is superb !!!!, for a one lap concentration he is GREAT, he pushes and pushes, but when it comes to full races, he lacks of concentration, makes a lot of errors and its not that difficult to overtake him, leaving a lot of times the doors open...

    As for his contract that ends in 2010, what about Alonso's contract he had with Mclaren, he was untouchable and it was something impossible to break up....and now look !! , "returns home for x-mass" , lol

    Re: Malaysian F1 Grand Prix

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    Alex18_996CC said:
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    Atzporsche said:
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    Alex18_996CC said:
    the R28 needs so much improvement !!!

    Massa needs to take a break !

    Kimi needs some latin character, lol

    I'm happy for Kubica he did a great job, BMW is just as good as Mclaren...

    Trulli was also one of the winners today, I never thought he was going to maintain his gap vs Hamilton, he did a great job with his toyota..

    Renault's R28, needs to improve so much, Alonso's first curve was a disaster, that's what I call a drift ! , I LOVED WHEN ALONSO AND HEIDFIELD passed Webber, it was amazing, just like historic moment between M.Schumacher and M.Häkinnen ...


    I hope Renault improves for the next GP's, they need to get an overral finish position of 5th-6th at least......

    And what happened to Bourdais???, I was expecting him at least in the top 10, and Rosberg????, wtf happened???

    ALONSO 2009 TO FERRARI!!!!!, ITS TIME !!!!!!!!



    customer team (Red Bull) beats factory Renault... that's gotta hurt



    what you said ??? , it did hurt actually , finally when the R28 wakes up it was too late to catch Webber..

    We need a big improvement in the aerodynamics, it has nothing to do with its engine (that's why Red Bull is doing so great), its the aerodynamics of the R28 that are giving so much problems, its too basic in that aspect, I just hope there is room for improvement....

    By the way, I think today we all understand what a monopoly is



    ya, it's sad to see the aerodynamics having such a huge impact, considering they are indeed equipped with the same engine.

    I hope Renault does as Toyota, and starts from SCRATCH here.. It hugely helped Toyota! Keep in mind though that next season all the stupid little wings and flaps are to be banned... where does that leave the aerokit.. well i think it means complete new re developed cars over ther winter! Therefore, i don't know how feasible an overhaul is to Renault but i don't wish them luck in finding grip!!!!

    Is it correct that due to next years banned wings and such, many are actually considering taking their 2007 car and re working it. Meaning this years cars, are a dead end in development

    Re: Malaysian F1 Grand Prix

    Like Way, I'm still wondering what happened to Massa?

    Kimi was almost emoting on the podium today, instead of looking as if he's asleep. Speaking of emoting, what's the name of the brunette Ferrari team member who is always singing the Italian anthem so enthusiastically? She was right up on the rail, and I've seen her there before. Maybe we can get her up to take the constructor's trophy, at least she'd look happy.

    As for coverage, Speed in the US has decided to run Viagra commercials (Viva Viagra, sung to "Viva Las Vegas" tune) back to back with soft core porn ads, "Secret Encounters, where one finds 'adventurous' girls." Oh well, it's better than CBS' coverage.

    Re: Malaysian F1 Grand Prix

    I continue to think that Kimi is the current best F1 driver. Go Kimi!

    Re: Malaysian F1 Grand Prix

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    ADias said:
    I continue to think that Kimi is the current best F1 driver. Go Kimi!



    I don't think he is. Last year he got really lucky at the end of the season because Mclaren screwed up for themselves and during the entire season he wasn't that much better than Massa. As a matter of fact MAssa helped him a lot at the end especially at the Brazilian GP when he let Kimi pass and take the pole.

    Kimi only won the championship marginally but during the entire season Alonso and Hamilton were much better. It's a shame that Hamltion cracked under pressure during the two last GPs.

    As for Massa he's got skill and can drive at the same pace as Kimi, Hamilton and Alonso but his main problem is consistency. He's not the champion type you can count on delivering the same perfect performance race after race. And we've especially seen that during the two first GPs of this season.

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    Alex18_996CC said:
    LOL


    Actually I like Massa, for quali, he is superb !!!!, for a one lap concentration he is GREAT, he pushes and pushes, but when it comes to full races, he lacks of concentration, makes a lot of errors and its not that difficult to overtake him, leaving a lot of times the doors open...

    As for his contract that ends in 2010, what about Alonso's contract he had with Mclaren, he was untouchable and it was something impossible to break up....and now look !! , "returns home for x-mass" , lol



    Mclaren and Alonso was a different situation since there were politics involved. Alonso was unhappy and Mclaren opened up the door and let him leave as he wished.

    Massa on the other hand would in no way want to leave Ferrari, that's one of the best teams you could drive for. The only team that would accept him is Toyota and the other inferior teams.

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    Montezemolo was in charge of getting Raikkonen into the boat and would surely like to do the same with Alonso. Massa's manager is N. Todt who is, surprise, J. Todt's son. It was the later's wish to get Massa into the car, against di Montezemolo's intentions.

    Hamilton was not happy at all with Kovalainen's attitude in Q2, looks like some strong opposition could be coming up again this season.

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    luwalira said:
    As for Bourdais he was the first one to go, he knocked off Rosberg's front wing and then glided off track forcing him to retire. As you can imagine Rosberg was forced to make a long visist in the pit to get a new front wing fitted.



    That was Glock in the Toyota, who drove a different line than Rosberg and was still in front. Silly outcome for both of them.

    Bourdais missed the braking point a few corners prior to that incident. Sad since I wanted to see his race performance. Afterall, I tend to believe he is getting better in the TR.

    Re: Malaysian F1 Grand Prix

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    Heist said:
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    Heist said:
    I expect Ferrari to have sorted out the issues they had last weekend. They will podium but not win.

    McLaren will be strong and win.

    BMW will be a podium.

    RedBull will pick up 4th place.

    The most interesting battle will be between Renault, Toyota, and Williams.



    Well, looks like I was sort of right. Had Mclaren not been knocked back 5 spots, I'm sure they would have taken the race.

    BMW did podium.

    Toyota in 4th waw a blind side ... I guess they finally got their stuff together.

    The most interesting battle was between a Redbull and Mclaren (Hamilton, Webber)



    No way McLaren could have taken the race even if they qualified pole! Ferrari was far superior. They were mighty fast today.

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    As for Alonso, I would like to see him go to Red Bull. I think that team has so much potential with Geoff Willis, Christian Hornet and Adrian Newey all running the show there. They need a top flight driver to take it to the next level. Webber is good in single lap, but he lacks what the champs like Alonso has over the whole race.

    Re: Malaysian F1 Grand Prix

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    luwalira said:
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    ADias said:
    I continue to think that Kimi is the current best F1 driver. Go Kimi!



    I don't think he is. Last year he got really lucky at the end of the season because Mclaren screwed up for themselves and during the entire season he wasn't that much better than Massa. As a matter of fact MAssa helped him a lot at the end especially at the Brazil....



    It has nothing to do with last year. It is my opinion based, on witnessing Kimi's performance over several years, that he is the most accomplished driver on the circuit. Before him, M. Schumacher. Alonso and Hamilton are good, just not as good. You have a different opinion, I have mine. I look at camera angles and driver inputs very carefully and I have developped my performance metric and I trust myself.

    As results go... luck plays a huge role. Hamilton may be the luckiest guy in F1 until now. Kimi's luck was terrible in 2005 and 2006...

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    As results go... luck plays a huge role. Hamilton may be the luckiest guy in F1 until now. Kimi's luck was terrible in 2005 and 2006...



    I agree. Hamilton wins races if he gets the pole and gets a good lead. He sucked today, and not just because of the front wheel nut incident. If by the 10th lap and everyone is settled into their pace, if Hamilton is not out front, he's not going to win. He couldn't even get past Webber, because he didn't really try. He's afraid to pass, which is the difference between a great F1 driver, and an okay one.

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    JoeRockhead said:
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    As results go... luck plays a huge role. Hamilton may be the luckiest guy in F1 until now. Kimi's luck was terrible in 2005 and 2006...



    I agree. Hamilton wins races if he gets the pole and gets a good lead. He sucked today, and not just because of the front wheel nut incident. If by the 10th lap and everyone is settled into their pace, if Hamilton is not out front, he's not going to win. He couldn't even get past Webber, because he didn't really try. He's afraid to pass, which is the difference between a great F1 driver, and an okay one.



    Precisely! I remember races in 05 or 06 when Kimi started in the pack or near the tail (due to engine problems) and raced masterfully to the front invariably every time.

    I'm no fan of anyone. I just call it as I see it. In contrast Massa/Alonso/Hamilton have a lot of people promoting them all the time - a lot of spin.

    This year is going to be interesting to see what happens at ML with Kovalainen - he is good too and he is Hamilton's competition in the team - a serious one.

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    Great pictures. thank you for posting! Indeed fingers crossed for Hamilton!

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    Hamilton used the softer tyre for the first 2 stints. I think that was a mistake. Plus, he was slower because he says his car was not set up right. Says he lacked grip. If he had not had the pit stop incident, he would have been 2nd.

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    easy_rider911 said:
    Hamilton used the softer tyre for the first 2 stints. I think that was a mistake. Plus, he was slower because he says his car was not set up right. Says he lacked grip. If he had not had the pit stop incident, he would have been 2nd.



    "If only this or that hadn't happened, X would have won."
    Isnt that the whole point? That whoever is better at making the most of the way things turn out ends up winning?
    Hamilton and Kovainen were punished for a silly mistake in qualifying. You cannot take that incident out of the equasion. Nor can you say "if only the wheelgun hadn't malfunctioned he'd have won".
    I have ben pissed many times during the last seasons when Kimi lost countless races to Alonso because of poor reliability. Bottom line is that you can be the best driver ut there, but if your team, car or concentration is off on raceday you dont win.

    I think Hamilton is a super-talented and often very mature driver. He's got the talent and the luck it takes to win and become a champion - he just lacks routine.
    I really think it would help him to be more independant and trust his own instincts. From the outside he seems to be very much a product of McLaren's bosses and his father's input. On the other hand, those "puppetmasters" have helped him get where he is today, so who knows.

    Massa's untimely demise seemed like something that could have happened to any driver - he lost traction for a splitsecond and was going a wee bit too fast. IMO it wouldnt be fair to call him a poor driver based on that incident.
    Every driver in the field has made the same mistake at some point, and as the season progresses we will see even more incidents like this.

    Kimi seems to have regained focus and Ferrari have apparently found a way of making the car as reliable os they used to be. Good job!
    Easy; u said: "Kimi drove a good, steady race. Much more level headed than in Australia. But Sepang is a very wide track which punishes drivers much less than Albert Park."
    Does that mean you believe Kimi only won because the track was wider than Melbourne?

    Alonso seems to have painted himself into a corner. Cant leave for a better team and Renault needs a miracle to be able to compete with F, McL and BMW.
    If Ferrari wants him for 2009 and Massa doesnt perform in 2008 I'm sure Ferrari will find a way of getting Alonso on board despite contractual obligatons to Massa.

    The race as a whole was pretty boring and reminded me of the zzzzzzz seasons of 2005/06.
    I hope we will see m ore drama and fighting over the next races.
    Perhaps a few races with rain will help do that.

    Re: Malaysian F1 Grand Prix

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    Alex18_996CC said:
    LOL


    Actually I like Massa, for quali, he is superb !!!!, for a one lap concentration he is GREAT, he pushes and pushes, but when it comes to full races, he lacks of concentration, makes a lot of errors and its not that difficult to overtake him, leaving a lot of times the doors open...

    As for his contract that ends in 2010, what about Alonso's contract he had with Mclaren, he was untouchable and it was something impossible to break up....and now look !! , "returns home for x-mass" , lol



    Massa - the GOOD/BAD/UGLY.

    THE GOOD - Yes, he is a fast driver who seems to know how to nail his car's set-up.

    THE BAD - Not as good during races. In Australia, he made two aggressive passes causing contact. Doesn't seem to have great starts either. Kimi pulled along side of him in Malasia, with the inside line, but opted to pull back and let him lead into the first corner. Last year Hamilton suckered him into a corner for a pass etc.

    The UGLY - Spun out "all by himself" while running second in Malaysia. IMO, he simply got on the gas just a bit too hard and lost it (no traction control this year). To make matters worse, he never admits to being at fault! I could go on but what's the point.

    IMO, three strikes and he should be replaced - regardless of his contract. With Jean Todt (his biggest fan - who brought him to Ferrari) gone from the racing division, Massa better not screw-up in the next race. If so, we'll see how patient Luca M. is with him.

    Re: Malaysian F1 Grand Prix

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    luwalira said:

    I don't think he is. Last year he got really lucky at the end of the season because Mclaren screwed up for themselves and during the entire season he wasn't that much better than Massa. As a matter of fact MAssa helped him a lot at the end especially at the Brazilian GP when he let Kimi pass and take the pole.

    Kimi only won the championship marginally but during the entire season Alonso and Hamilton were much better. It's a shame that Hamltion cracked under pressure during the two last GPs.


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    kashmir:

    Sorry... I really don't think that Kimi just won 2007 due to lucky circumstances... He had 2 technical issues which caused him not to finish and lost him at least 12 points. He only had one major individual fault, which was in qualifying of Monaco GP. On the other hand Kimi worked hard on his self and the car, which returned in making most championship points since mid season, 3 wins in the last 4 races and the well deserved world championship title.

    In such tight circumstances, its not only about luck...its more about making most right and limit errors toi the minimal. I think both, Hamilton and Alonso did more individual mistakes.

    Really Kimi deserved it...and is also in 08 the guy to beat.

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    mp said:
    With Jean Todt (his biggest fan - who brought him to Ferrari) gone from the racing division, Massa better not screw-up in the next race. If so, we'll see how patient Luca M. is with him.



    As I said above, Nicholas Todt is Massa's manager. Since his father Jean dropped out of Ferrari's management, I wonder how much support will be left for him. Felipe seems to be a nice guy, I'd say it is more of a psychological dilemma than a matter of ability. He made some controversial actions back in his Sauber era.

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    I still can't figure out why Lewis used the softer tyre for the first two phases of the race. Both Lewis and Heikki started the race on softer tyres but McLaren must have been looking at the lap times of other teams which were starting the race on harder tyres. It was clear that the harder tyres were better and McLaren realised this. So when Heikki did his first pit stop, McLaren put the harder tyres on. As we know, the drivers have to use both types of tyres once in the race. So for the second pit stop, with Heikki, they had a choice and they (correctly) used the harder tyre on Heikki's car for that pit stop.

    By contrast, Lewis again used the softer tyre for the first pit stop. Obviously he had to use the harder tyre on the second pit stop to satisfy the rules about using both tyre types during the race.

    So, having covered the background, the question remains, why did Lewis do this when his team so obviously knew which was the better tyre? McLaren obviously gave in to what the driver wanted (during the race) or what Lewis had pre-agreed with the team before the race as his own race strategy.

    Either way, it raises the question about Lewis's flexibility/adaptability re strategy/tyre choice while in the heat of the action. Great drivers need to be able to react to the changing dynamics of the race while it's happening. I'm still scratching my head why Lewis stubbornly insisted on the softer tyre when it was so obvious the harder tyre was the better tyre to be on.

    Maybe I'm just missing something? Perhaps someone else here knows the real answer?

    In any event, it's all academic. Given that he got penalised 5 grid places (which I agree was the right decision), given that his 1st pit stop took 19 seconds due to a wheel gun problem, given that his second pit stop took 2 seconds longer it might have done and all these problems did mean he remained stuck behind the slower RBR of Mark Webber (for a total of 37 laps) then any talk about strategy and tyre choices is pretty superfluous. Like a mosquito bite on a person who has just been bitten by a cobra. Lewis is certainly responsible for the mistake that led to the 5 place grid penalty but the other factors weren't his fault. So his race was compromised anyway.

    In any case, it's crystal clear that he was nowhere near the pace of Kimi in the Ferrari anyway. So it all made no difference in the end. Ferrari were just much too strong on the day.

    On to another issue. I still can't believe Massa's complacent attitude. In the world of F1, driver speculation normally happens in the glare of the press spotlight with few actual comments directly attributable to the drivers themselves. The real talk happens secretly behind closed doors. But Alonso has been stirring things up by criticising Massa's performance to the world's media in the first 2 races.

    I admire Alonso's driving ability but again, he is proving what a cheap person he is. It's like he is lobbying for a drive and ratcheting up the media pressure on Massa to put him off his game. It's very dirty tactics.

    Massa went off in Melbourne but AFAIK retired due to an engine fault not caused by his driving. AFAIK the damage to his front suspension didn't cause his retirement (but I'm happy to be corrected). Massa's only driver error that caused him to retire has been at Sepang. (But it's still a bit of a mystery how he went off there).

    I think Alonso would be well advised to hold his tongue in front of the press and get his manager to talk for him. Oh, surprise, surprise...his manager is Flavio Briatore, who happens to be his new boss at Renault. That's why Alonso is mouthing off himself about possibly quitting Renault at the end of the year. All that talk about 'returning home' to Renault was empty. Alonso will race for any team if it can give him a car that will give him a shot at the title. The rest is just talk.

    But I can't believe Massa's complacency. He says he has a 3 year deal. True. But if he keeps underperforming, Ferrari's patience WILL run thin and so won't they start thinking about finding a way to boot him out of the car and into a testing/reserve driver role? Every team (I assume) can sack its employee for not performing well enough. With the amount of money invested by Ferrari/Fiat and its sponsors. Time is ticking on Massa to perform. If he doesn't realise this, he is fooling himself. I suspect though that he knows this only too well but is merely diffusing the issue in the media by repeating the smug statement that he has a contract for 3 years.

    I also think it's really premature to talk of Vettel joining Ferrari. He has hardly proven himself yet. He has potential but I guess this is F1 so people can get a bit carried away.

    But could you imagine having Kimi and Fernando in the same team? I think the fierce rivalry last year between Lewis (the 2007 rookie) and Alonso (the 2 time World Champ) would look like no more than a fight between 2 sisters over who gets to use the bathroom first compared to the vicious battle that would result (on the track and off it) if Kimi and Alonso were team mates. It would be poisonous.

    Alonso is a truly great driver, maybe one of the greatest ever. Of that I have no doubt. But he has proven that he is only a good team mate when he is the lead driver with a non-threatening guy like Fisichella or Nelsinho as the number 2 man.

    A good team player would want a strong team mate to help improve the car and help the team win the constructors title (helps attract sponsors too). But Alonso doesn't want this because he only drives for himself. He improves the car for himself.

    Oh well, just thinking out loud. I'm interested to hear what others here think...

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    I think that first you need to just start a Bahrain thread (even use this post to kick it off; your post, not mine).
    If Alonso were matched with an even team mate who knows how that would turn out. As a rookie if Hamilton had given up anything for the team, Alonso would be a three time champion. I don't blame Hamilton for being 100% competitive, but his actions cost McLaren and Alonso a driver's championship (that's just my opinion of last season).

     
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