14-Apr-2019 17:26:29
Take it easy Buddy, there’s not a lot of gravel to save you on the ring....
Nice spec, but still think the nicest color in your garage is the exclusive. Soooo nice live
Give my best to the Manthey guys (and girls) and drive super easy at the temperatures you have. Mark Webber told me that the “window” of the tires fitted on the GT2 make them pretty useless below 10 degrees C😱
Cheers and enjoy Nick
15-Apr-2019 14:43:15
15-Apr-2019 18:12:33
There is absolutely no turbo lag, especially in PDK Sport auto mode. The acceleration in gear is just explosive to say the least on track. Trakcar was follow me on the GP circuit, his car is sorted and corners harder, but every corner exit he turned into a small dot until the next corner where he pulled closer, repeat for the whole lap. Actually for the whole session.
Boy this car is a monster on track. The wide RS chassis combined with the excessive HP is absolutely FUN!!! First lap out of the pits I went into the 1st corner a bit hot, at that moment I thought I was in my Cup car and did a Cup car speed turn, not a problem with the car, just a tad of wiggle, nothing dramatic.
As for autobahn, cruising in 7th gear, and the the unlimited sign appears, quick step on the throttle means the car down shift to whatever gear is necessary then everyone around me disappeared into tiny dots. I can confidently say once the car is going, it accelerate harder than the 918. If there was ay lag, the downshift took care of that QUICKLY. There is no pause, flat spot in the acceleration curve. Think we touched 320km/hr on the way to Amsterdam from Leizpig last week. Today we drove back to Stuttgart from Nurburgring, we went above 300km/hr again in like no time.
And as for the water tank. Well, when I left Leipzig, the water tank sensor is having problem, it kept reading it low. We double checked the tank is full. I left it at that. At Manthey when they installed their water tank, the tech on the new shop noticed the sensor error and thought he did something wrong. I was at the lower old shop chatting with my old crew and it was actually a known problem, at the factory the some of the sensors was installed 'dirty', grease, it just need a cleaning and I went back to the new shop and let them know it was't their fault. I am gonna let my foreman sort it out once it get back to Vancouver. Over 2 days at the Ring the car didn't use a single drop of water, the Manthey tank is still full. Granted it wasn't hot, Monday was sort fo cold and so is Tuesday.
The current female Ring Taxi driver Celia is a friend, I had her drove me around in the GT2RS at HER pace. Boy was that wonderful. Think my GoPro was running but I have to check to make sure.
And for your final question, do I miss an NA engine. Absolutely nope!. While this thing does't have the 9k high pitch wail of a GT3 or GT3RS engine, it is wonderful sounding by itself and also loud enough without the sport exhaust active, activating it means adding drone to the interior, and louder at idle, which I can do without.
I can actually say an NA engine has more lag. If I am not in the right rpm range I have to wait for the engine to go 'on cam', the GT2RS engine is pretty in power range at any rpm.
The GT2RS is stupidly fast, in inexperienced hands, it is dangerous to the driver AND everyone around it. I think I am a decent driver, and I felt wonderful trying to let it loose. Oh, it chirps tires inn 2nd gear on highway onramps, would be a problem if the car is not pointing straight, it also chirps the tires in 3rd gear at full throttle, had that happened when I hit the unlimited sign and went for it. Slight wiggle, nothing dramatic.
I have to say, the GT2RS right now is the pinnacle of Porsche 911. The Speedster or the 911R is a distance also ran.
Cool review Nick, was wonderful meeting you and getting up close to your monster of a car. The love for GT2 RS' is growing by the day, you've certainly put it on my radar. Enjoy it in good health!
1969 Mercedes-Benz 300SEL 6.3 / 2008 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (sold) / 2011 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Performance / 2014 BMW-Alpina D3 biturbo Touring / 2018 Porsche 911 GT3 Clubsport
Whoopsy:There is absolutely no turbo lag, especially in PDK Sport auto mode. The acceleration in gear is just explosive to say the least on track. Trakcar was follow me on the GP circuit, his car is sorted and corners harder, but every corner exit he turned into a small dot until the next corner where he pulled closer, repeat for the whole lap. Actually for the whole session.
Boy this car is a monster on track. The wide RS chassis combined with the excessive HP is absolutely FUN!!! First lap out of the pits I went into the 1st corner a bit hot, at that moment I thought I was in my Cup car and did a Cup car speed turn, not a problem with the car, just a tad of wiggle, nothing dramatic.
As for autobahn, cruising in 7th gear, and the the unlimited sign appears, quick step on the throttle means the car down shift to whatever gear is necessary then everyone around me disappeared into tiny dots. I can confidently say once the car is going, it accelerate harder than the 918. If there was ay lag, the downshift took care of that QUICKLY. There is no pause, flat spot in the acceleration curve. Think we touched 320km/hr on the way to Amsterdam from Leizpig last week. Today we drove back to Stuttgart from Nurburgring, we went above 300km/hr again in like no time.
And as for the water tank. Well, when I left Leipzig, the water tank sensor is having problem, it kept reading it low. We double checked the tank is full. I left it at that. At Manthey when they installed their water tank, the tech on the new shop noticed the sensor error and thought he did something wrong. I was at the lower old shop chatting with my old crew and it was actually a known problem, at the factory the some of the sensors was installed 'dirty', grease, it just need a cleaning and I went back to the new shop and let them know it was't their fault. I am gonna let my foreman sort it out once it get back to Vancouver. Over 2 days at the Ring the car didn't use a single drop of water, the Manthey tank is still full. Granted it wasn't hot, Monday was sort fo cold and so is Tuesday.
The current female Ring Taxi driver Celia is a friend, I had her drove me around in the GT2RS at HER pace. Boy was that wonderful. Think my GoPro was running but I have to check to make sure.
And for your final question, do I miss an NA engine. Absolutely nope!. While this thing does't have the 9k high pitch wail of a GT3 or GT3RS engine, it is wonderful sounding by itself and also loud enough without the sport exhaust active, activating it means adding drone to the interior, and louder at idle, which I can do without.
I can actually say an NA engine has more lag. If I am not in the right rpm range I have to wait for the engine to go 'on cam', the GT2RS engine is pretty in power range at any rpm.
The GT2RS is stupidly fast, in inexperienced hands, it is dangerous to the driver AND everyone around it. I think I am a decent driver, and I felt wonderful trying to let it loose. Oh, it chirps tires inn 2nd gear on highway onramps, would be a problem if the car is not pointing straight, it also chirps the tires in 3rd gear at full throttle, had that happened when I hit the unlimited sign and went for it. Slight wiggle, nothing dramatic.
I have to say, the GT2RS right now is the pinnacle of Porsche 911. The Speedster or the 911R is a distance also ran.
Thanks a lot for this detailed report . This certainly was a lot of fun. Maybe I'm lucky and someone shows up with a GT2RS next week. Re the "drone noise" I can say, that my 991.2 Turbo S has the same in Sport mode. It seems to be caused by the sound symposer and I hate it. Anyway, keep it save and since you are divorced the GT2RS can no longer be a "Witwenmacher"
GT2RS is not a car for everyone, a lot prefer to have NA engine osund I get that. Others prefer pure performance and don't mind having a turbo.
The NA guys don't force fed NA to the turbo people and the turbo people don't force fed the turbo to the NA people, they actually have respect for each other's opinion. Unlike the Tesla people.
I think the 991.2 GT2RS is just about the perfect 911 for anyone who has been a Porsche fan from the 935 days forward. It seems like the embodiment of a childhood LeMans fantasy: a 935 with rear-wheel steering, Sport PDK, and air conditioning. What's not to like?
Mike
918 Spyder + 991.2 GT2 RS +Tesla Roadster 1.5 & Model S P100D AP2 + Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid + BMW Z8 + BMW 3.0 CSi + Bentley Arnage T
19-Apr-2019 07:23:12
Good pushing Nick
When I drove mine on Spa last autum I felt it to be somewhat snappy. Did the same as you the first laps, drove it like I drive the cup car. NOT a good line with the GT2...... As you say, not a car for unexperienced drivers. It was also warmer when I drove it at Spa (18-20 degrees C), so the water tank (ordinary, now I got the Manthey installed) was emptied in 4-5 laps.....
Be safe now and hope to see you soon. Why not stay an extra week and join us at Spielberg next weekend ?
21-Apr-2019 20:42:03
nberry:Nick thanks for the informative report. Based on your observations clearly it’s not a car for me. I would been in the weeds more often than not.😀
Yes Nick, I would prefer to still see your posts everyday
For your need, nothing more than a GT3 is needed. (resale value not factored into the decision)
Even a GT3RS probably is already a bit too extreme.
A GT2RS is a beast, Porsche with electronics tone it down enough for the general public to drive, but if pushed, it got some big teeth ready to bite on owners.
While it is the most expensive model in their 911 range and some would buy it simply for the status symbol of being seen in one, 90% of it's capability can only be exploited on a track, and even then it's still a dangerous car in careless hands.
A GT3RS is along the same line, but at least that car is docile enough as not as wild as a GT2RS.
But in general, I would stand along the lines of some Rennlist people, that Porsche RS cars are basically for clients that do track their cars heavily and have the ability to drive them properly.
23-Apr-2019 20:41:08
i drove the GT2RS on Hockenheim last year for the first time on a track and I was also so impressed by how it handled. The car is so nicely balanced and stable both in corners and under breaking especially.
In VLN for instance, a 991 GT3 Cup on slick tires paired with a good driver takes the right at Flugplatz at 200kmh. Lars Kern took it going 197kmh with a much heavier GT2RS on street tires... Thats just unbelievable.
here is the onboard of the only lap i managed to get in the car that day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMZDYharFds
997 GT3 clubsport | 991 GT2 RS