Sep 6, 2006 4:07:11 PM
- Carlos from Spain
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Sep 6, 2006 4:07:11 PM
Sep 6, 2006 4:36:14 PM
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ha said:
If I was him I would go to the smallest of F1 teams (Super Aguri or MF1) and put all my experiences and efforts in it. After all, there isn't much for him to pursuit anymore. He basically has all records under his belt.
Sep 6, 2006 9:10:41 PM
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dhayek said:
he is the best driver ever,no doubt, and the worst character...
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dhayek said:
he is the best driver ever,no doubt, and the worst character...
I disagree. Schumi is a great driver, but he's always had the benefit of the most dominant car. I think Senna and Fangio are both superior to Schumi...
Furthermore, Schumi's lackluster character would lead us to believe that he would never join a team like Super Aguri...
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I disagree. Schumi is a great driver, but he's always had the benefit of the most dominant car. I think Senna and Fangio are both superior to Schumi...
Furthermore, Schumi's lackluster character would lead us to believe that he would never join a team like Super Aguri...
Sep 7, 2006 6:31:55 AM
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Carlos from Spain said:
Rumors say that Schumacher will announce on this comming Italian GP that he will retire after this season, suposedly because Ferrari has not offered or assured him a serious enough project/car for next season. Guess we know were Kimi will be next season for sure now
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Hurst said:
Schumi's is an excellent driver no doubt......
I think Senna is more magician than Schumi ever was. Think back to races at Monaco, where his gearbox was faulty, missing 3rd and 4th gear. He carefully averts the field, coping with the failures, manuvering, mastering.
Schumi definitely has touches of magic, but he has more touches of soundness than extrordinary displays. Most of his wins this years were via qualifying/pit strategies. Did he make a single brilliant pass a la 2005 Raikkonen on Fisichella @ Suzuka.......
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Hurst said:
Schumi's is an excellent driver no doubt......
I think Senna is more magician than Schumi ever was. Think back to races at Monaco, where his gearbox was faulty, missing 3rd and 4th gear. He carefully averts the field, coping with the failures, manuvering, mastering.
Schumi definitely has touches of magic, but he has more touches of soundness than extrordinary displays. Most of his wins this years were via qualifying/pit strategies. Did he make a single brilliant pass a la 2005 Raikkonen on Fisichella @ Suzuka.......
I guess you choose to remember specific events to justify your opinion and forget other events that may contadict it. Schumi was left with only one gear, 5th gear to be exact, in 1995 during the Spanish Grand Prix for half of the race distance and he still won. Check 4th paragraph..
http://www.castrol.com/castrol/sectiongenericarticle.do?categoryId=9000007&contentId=7000119
I 've been following F1 since 1986, when I was only 10, and when the SENNA and PROST era came, Senna was very similar to Schumi, in both performance, and attitude.
I remember how so many people disliked or hated Senna for his behavior on and off the track.
Not because he was doing stupid things, but because he was unapproachable, enigmatic and very, very competitive on the track.
He would block anyone and attack anyone, regardless of who was involved.
In fact he deliberately (he admitted it himself!) slammed on Prost's Mclaren 1989 (1st occasion) and Prost's Ferrari 1990 (2nd occasion) in order to secure the title.
And then came the tragic day of May 1st 1994 when all the viewers, including me, were left speechless on the announcement that he had been killed in IMOLA.
From then on, even the most ignorant and clueless person claims that SENNA was, is, and will be the best driver ever.
So come on!
Does Schumi have to get hurt in order to be respected?
I am sick of listening to people claiming that Senna was the best, simply because he past away.
Get a clue people, this is racing, not charity. Of course Schumi performed some ugly moves but he has also pulled some astonishing victories.
I totally agree that blocking Damon Hill in Adelaide in 1994 was very bad, as well as slamming Villneuve the year later, but is this the only thing you remember from the carrier of the 7times world champion?
Give me the name of one multiple (more than twice) world champion who was nice and kind in F1.
Do you really think that Hakinen and Schumi had the same equipment in 1998? Mclaren was far better during that year, and Mika should have won much easier.
And do you really consider that in 1999 Mika beat Schumi? Schumi broke his leg at Silverstone and was out for 6 races.
Same story in 1996, his first year with Ferrari, when Ferrari was in terrible shape, having a very unreliable car scoring 6 DNFs in the first 10 races.
In 1997 again the Williams of Villneuve was unstoppable and again it came down to the last races, a situation Villneuve should have avoided if he is that good.
So Schumi did not really have an easy carrier, and if your opinion is based on the championships he won in 2002 and 2004 then you should look better into his carrier and not jump into any conclusions..
Michael took the title down to the last race in both 1997 and 1998 when Williams and Mclaren, respectively, were far superior during those seasons.
Also in 1994, 1995, 2000, 2003 he did not have the best car. In case you disagree, just for reference check these short reports of each season as well as of each race:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Schumacher
I am stating facts, and I have not said that he is the best ever. It is just that I cannot understand how the perception of people about facts (not assumptions or rumors) can be different.
Seasons 2001, 2002 and 2004 (32 wins) were easy for Schumi, no doubt about it.
So even if you take away the three most successful seasons of Schumi he still has 57 wins (Total Wins: 89 - Wins during 2001, 2002 and 2004: 32), which is more than second place man Alain Prost who has 51. And Prost had absolutely no competition in 1993, when Senna was struggling with a Ford powered Mclaren.. and his team mate in Williams was Damon Hill...
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TRF414WCR said:
Also in 1994, 1995, 2000, 2003 he did not have the best car. In case you disagree, just for reference check these short reports of each season as well as of each race:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Schumacher
Sep 7, 2006 7:51:10 PM
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Carlos from Spain said:
Rumors say that Schumacher will announce on this comming Italian GP that he will retire after this season, suposedly because Ferrari has not offered or assured him a serious enough project/car for next season. Guess we know were Kimi will be next season for sure now
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TRF414WCR said:
Also in 1994, 1995, 2000, 2003 he did not have the best car. In case you disagree, just for reference check these short reports of each season as well as of each race:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Schumacher
A good way to see which team build the best car is to look at the constructers championship.In 1995,2000 and 2003 the team of Schumacher finished first.