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Jun 26, 2006 6:29:17 PM

adelaide: Newbie; Loc: Canada; Posts: 19, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 4, 2005

who's switching to TT/GT3 and selling their 997S?

I would imagine many people will be switching to either a TT or GT3 in the next few months from their current 997S.

I'm guessing quite a few used 997S' will appear on the market in the next while because of this.

Those that are not trading their cars into a dealer, I'm sure there are a lot of people on this board (like myself) who would be interested in your vehicle before it got sold to a wholesaler / dealer who would put on their subsequent mark-up.

I'm just looking to purchase and i'm sure a lot of board members are going to sell in the near future.

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Jun 26, 2006 7:18:49 PM

CPU77: Newbie; Loc: Mansfield, Ohio; Posts: 11, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 9, 2006; Reply to: adelaide

Re: who's switching to TT/GT3 and selling their 997S?

I am looking for a used or a new dealer invoiced 997s in arctic silver with black interior. Just putting that out there.

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Jun 26, 2006 10:33:54 PM

SrfCity: Expert; Loc: Orange County, CA; Posts: 1339, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 21, 2004; Reply to: CPU77

Re: who's switching to TT/GT3 and selling their 997S?

Nope, sorry.

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Jun 26, 2006 10:53:54 PM

TheOldMan: Co-Pilot; Loc: Montreal, Canada; Posts: 214, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 27, 2004; Reply to: SrfCity

Re: who's switching to TT/GT3 and selling their 997S?

My plan was to sell the C2S and purchase the turbo. But I am so very happy with the current car that I have no desire to purchase the turbo. No matter how hard I try to justify the turbo, I cannot find any reason to trade right now.

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Jun 27, 2006 2:14:36 AM

devo: Veteran; Loc: NY , United States; Posts: 1107, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 31, 2006; Reply to: CPU77

Re: who's switching to TT/GT3 and selling their 997S?

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CPU77 said:
I am looking for a used or a new dealer invoiced 997s in arctic silver with black interior. Just putting that out there.

Sorry, just traded my 05 997S: artic silver/ black w/9700 miles, well optioned, mint.

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Jun 27, 2006 2:17:33 AM

devo: Veteran; Loc: NY , United States; Posts: 1107, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 31, 2006; Reply to: devo

Re: who's switching to TT/GT3 and selling their 997S?

Sometimes it's not worth it to sell the car to a private owxner, considering that a dealer trade-in will save thousands in sales tax.

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Jun 27, 2006 2:47:12 AM

Damian: Senior; Loc: Pa, USA; Posts: 646, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 10, 2005; Reply to: devo

Re: who's switching to TT/GT3 and selling their 997S?

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devo said:
Sometimes it's not worth it to sell the car to a private owxner, considering that a dealer trade-in will save thousands in sales tax.

Yes, it has a huge effect in states with sales tax offset on trade-in.

Considering 997S price levels the private buyer would have to pay you $5K - $6K MORE than dealer trade-in just to equal the trade-in offer when factoring-in the trade-in tax benefit. Unfortunately the dealers also realize this and peg their offer accordingly

. But if you've got good rapport with your dealer, they will let you sell "through" the dealer to a private buyer of your choosing. It's legal, worth asking your dealer about as it could put an extra $5K in your pocket....er, rephrased more accurately it will reduce your losses by $5K mentioned above.

I am contemplating C4S coupe to replace my C2S... Ill get a set of snows and drive a bit longer into the snow months. Very tempted by a 997TT but I simply can't yet stomach an MSRP north of $125K. In the meantime I've got a factory 500 HP Shelby GT500 Cobra en route in Sept. as a raucous diversion.

If anyone's interested, as my own informal survey of the 997 Turbo-release-effect on availability of used 997/997S in the USA:
I bookmarked AutoTrader.com before and after the 997 Turbo release as follows---SEARCH CRITERIA: Nationwide, ALL Porsche 911 of model year 2005 and 2006 from $0 to $175,000. (includes all 996, 997 body styles including 996 Turbo S):
On JUNE 01 2006 there were 380 cars offered.
On JUNE 26 2006 there are 429 cars offered....probably another dozen or two will enter the pre-owned market over the next couple weeks after remaining 997TT launch deliveries.

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Jun 27, 2006 3:25:09 PM

adelaide: Newbie; Loc: Canada; Posts: 19, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 4, 2005; Reply to: Damian

Re: who's switching to TT/GT3 and selling their 997S?

I agree with your points Damian....

Maybe there are people who also want to sell and not buy another Porsche and thus not benefit from the tax savings. Or maybe even with the dealer premium they could still get more on the private market...the whole challenge now is finding the prices dealers are offering versus what would be feasible for a private individual to offer.

It looks like your informal research proves my point that many lucky individuals out there will be 'upgrading' their cars in the near future....add to that the launch of the GT3 and the Targa, and I think you'll see the number grow.

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Jun 27, 2006 4:01:54 PM

mikekenzo: Junior; Loc: La Jolla, CA; Posts: 54, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 11, 2004; Reply to: adelaide

Re: who's switching to TT/GT3 and selling their 997S?

Except in states like California... dang! Get you every which way...

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Jun 27, 2006 4:02:58 PM

STRADALE: Rennteam VIP; Loc: NY , United States; Posts: 11075, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 9, 2005; Reply to: adelaide

Re: who's switching to TT/GT3 and selling their 997S?

I'm trading in my 2005 997 S Cabriolet.
Car is better than new (already broken in proper) & has $1500 worth on 3M body armour. No paint, no scratches. Just had 1st oil change Friday.
Artic Silver/ Black int/PSE/Adaptive sport sets/Bose/Nav/Sport Chrono/ etc.etc.
4200 miles.
Maintained by complete OCD nut & never put through a car wash.
Let me know if you're interested.

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Jun 27, 2006 4:07:51 PM

Kevin034: Pilot; Loc: WA; Posts: 393, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 7, 2005; Reply to: STRADALE

Re: who's switching to TT/GT3 and selling their 997S?

I'm going on the list for a GT3.

But I'm keeping my 997S.

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Jun 27, 2006 4:12:21 PM

Alex_997TT: Rennteam Master; Loc: Reading , United Kingdom; Posts: 3320, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 20, 2005; Reply to: STRADALE

Re: who's switching to TT/GT3 and selling their 997S?

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STRADALE said:
No paint, no scratches

No paint?!

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Jun 27, 2006 4:14:22 PM

STRADALE: Rennteam VIP; Loc: NY , United States; Posts: 11075, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 9, 2005; Reply to: Alex_997TT

Re: who's switching to TT/GT3 and selling their 997S?

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Alex (UK) said:
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STRADALE said:
No paint, no scratches

No paint?!

LOL!! Guess it does sound funny if you never heard that phrase before.

It means no paint work.

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Jun 27, 2006 4:50:32 PM

sdy284: Expert; Loc: Wisconsin, USA; Posts: 1348, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 7, 2005; Reply to: Alex_997TT

Re: who's switching to TT/GT3 and selling their 997S?

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Alex (UK) said:
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STRADALE said:
No paint, no scratches

No paint?!

i can just see it now...

"Wow, is that the new Porsche grey?"
"Yep, sure is"
"Whats it called again?"
"PPG: Porsche Primer Grey"

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Jun 27, 2006 4:50:59 PM

Alex_997TT: Rennteam Master; Loc: Reading , United Kingdom; Posts: 3320, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 20, 2005; Reply to: adelaide

Re: who's switching to TT/GT3 and selling their 997S?

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adelaide said:
I would imagine many people will be switching to either a TT or GT3 in the next few months from their current 997S.

I'm guessing quite a few used 997S' will appear on the market in the next while because of this.

Those that are not trading their cars into a dealer, I'm sure there are a lot of people on this board (like myself) who would be interested in your vehicle before it got sold to a wholesaler / dealer who would put on their subsequent mark-up.

I'm just looking to purchase and i'm sure a lot of board members are going to sell in the near future.

Sadly I wouldn't 'upgrade' my Carrera S Cab for a new Turbo or GT3 even if it was a no-cost exchange

>> The Turbo (IMHO) just doesn't have the looks and the passion (compared to Italian alternatives) that a Pounds100k+ supercar should have. Plus my current Carrera S is just as good a GT car as the TT given the speed limits here outside of German Autobarns.

>> The GT3 (IMHO) is a bit too track oriented for my tastes, plus I'm no fan of large rear wings.

Yes I know both the TT and GT3 would go like bats out of hell but the looks just don't do it for me, and with dream-cars that's half the reason.

So until the equivalent 998 Carrera S Cab model comes out I don't think I will ever consider trading in.

My next dream car though I think will be an addition, not a substitution... probably an F430 or Gallardo, with my Carrera S Cab being my GT car. Hopefully in the next 5 years.

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Jun 27, 2006 5:27:46 PM

frayed: Senior; Loc: Austin, TX , United States; Posts: 510, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 17, 2004; Reply to: Alex_997TT

Re: who's switching to TT/GT3 and selling their 997S?

Perhaps the GT3. It depends on (i) how good the new GT3 is (I've owned the 996 variant, and the feel has to be a notable jump, at least as big a jump from the 996 to 997 Carerras) and (ii) how good my track car turns out to be.

It's cheaper for me to keep my track car and S. . . and if the it turns out as good as it I hope, no GT3 for me.

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Jun 28, 2006 2:32:25 PM

adelaide: Newbie; Loc: Canada; Posts: 19, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 4, 2005; Reply to: STRADALE

Re: who's switching to TT/GT3 and selling their 997S?

I'd be interested potentially...

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STRADALE said:
I'm trading in my 2005 997 S Cabriolet.
Car is better than new (already broken in proper) & has $1500 worth on 3M body armour. No paint, no scratches. Just had 1st oil change Friday.
Artic Silver/ Black int/PSE/Adaptive sport sets/Bose/Nav/Sport Chrono/ etc.etc.
4200 miles.
Maintained by complete OCD nut & never put through a car wash.
Let me know if you're interested.

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Jun 29, 2006 6:31:13 PM

Bill (Chicago): Newbie; Loc:; Posts: 47, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 20, 2004; Reply to: adelaide

Re: who's switching to TT/GT3 and selling their 997S?

I was seriously thinking about upgrading to a GT3, but probably will not if it has a sunroof. I will keeps my S and race car for now if that is the case.

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Jun 30, 2006 3:42:25 AM

adam s: Junior; Loc: California; Posts: 93, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 20, 2004; Reply to: Bill (Chicago)

Re: who's switching to TT/GT3 and selling their 997S?

hm.. 997S, black, all sport options (shifter, steering wheel, PSE, sport seats), no luxury options, only 6500 miles..
thinking of GT3.. lemme know if interested. i'm in CA.

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Jun 30, 2006 3:22:13 PM

adelaide: Newbie; Loc: Canada; Posts: 19, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 4, 2005; Reply to: adam s

Re: who's switching to TT/GT3 and selling their 997S?

Unfortunately, Black/Black is the ONLY color combo I would not be interested in. Otherwise, your car sounds perfect! Anyone else??

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Jun 30, 2006 6:58:08 PM

br d: Co-Pilot; Loc: Essex UK; Posts: 160, Gallery; Registered on: May 28, 2005; Reply to: adelaide

Re: who's switching to TT/GT3 and selling their 997S?

Yeah, I'm going to do this, will be trading my Arctic Silver/Ocean Blue 997S for the Turbo. I've already had a couple of people offer me "Whatever the dealer does" though. Won't be for a while so maybe that will change, I will put it on here when the time comes if I "get stuck with it"

br d

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Jun 30, 2006 7:55:07 PM

adelaide: Newbie; Loc: Canada; Posts: 19, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 4, 2005; Reply to: br d

Re: who's switching to TT/GT3 and selling their 997S?

I hope there are a few more people in the next while interested in selling!

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