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Dec 8, 2005 3:18:04 AM

Ron (Houston): Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Houston, TX , United States; Posts: 8812, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 10, 2002

Aston AMV8 RS

Autoexpress (c)

It is supposed to be competing with Porsche GT3

- 420bhp (via valve timing, higher redline and exhaust)
- Louder exhaust with bigger pipes
- 1420kg (150kg lighter than stock V8)
- Lowered and adjustable suspension
- Bigger brakes
- New splitter
- Undertray with venturi tunnels
- Carbon fiber roof
- Magnesium wheels
- Stripped interior with racing bucket seats
- Optional roll cage
- Optional delete of stereo, air-con, electric windows

- 0-60mph in 4.5 seconds

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/62554/vantage_rs_targets_porsche.html

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Dec 8, 2005 3:32:43 AM

Justin: Veteran; Loc: San Diego, CA, USA; Posts: 979, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 12, 2003; Reply to: Ron (Houston)

Re: Aston AMV8 RS

Doesn't sound like Aston, but welcome news indeed if true!

40hp is quite a bit, but I am most captivated by the lost weight.

- J

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Dec 8, 2005 3:55:14 AM

bazza: Expert; Loc: uk,za; Posts: 1393, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 29, 2005; Reply to: Justin

Re: Aston AMV8 RS

no matter how hard they try , still under the shadow of porsche .

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Dec 8, 2005 3:58:50 AM

bazza: Expert; Loc: uk,za; Posts: 1393, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 29, 2005; Reply to: bazza

Re: Aston AMV8 RS

hope poseche will do the cayman rs to outdo this Am rs

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Dec 8, 2005 6:38:06 AM

bstew: Expert; Loc: NC, USA; Posts: 1797, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 11, 2005; Reply to: bazza

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bazza said:
hope poseche will do the cayman rs to outdo this Am rs

Ditto

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Dec 8, 2005 11:06:18 AM

stanwan: Junior; Loc: UK; Posts: 56, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 17, 2005; Reply to: bstew

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I for one hope that AM release this model and that it WILL be competitive. Am cars are improving rapidly - surely a good thing for all those that are interested in performance cars? After all, more choice can't be bad......

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Dec 8, 2005 1:21:39 PM

bostonmini: Veteran; Loc:; Posts: 924, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 31, 2003; Reply to: stanwan

Re: Aston AMV8 RS

sport seats are a good thing; but to strip the interior is not so wise as aston is known for having nice comfy interiors, but a sport model is great, shows they are serious about performance....Incidentally I wanted to see it S-charged.

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Dec 8, 2005 2:08:24 PM

Turbo Al: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Rochester, New York , United States; Posts: 2531, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 3, 2005; Reply to: bostonmini

Re: Aston AMV8 RS

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bostonmini said:
sport seats are a good thing; but to strip the interior is not so wise as aston is known for having nice comfy interiors, but a sport model is great, shows they are serious about performance....Incidentally I wanted to see it S-charged.

Same here, but an RS suggests that perhaps a blower is in the works.

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Dec 8, 2005 2:38:20 PM

temm: Rennteam Master; Loc: Oslo , Norway; Posts: 4122, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 24, 2003; Reply to: Ron (Houston)

Re: Aston AMV8 RS

Louder exhaust?

According to Top Gear, you can hear the normal Vantage 2 miles away!

But the big question is, will it be better to drive

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Dec 8, 2005 2:47:08 PM

Ron (Houston): Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Houston, TX , United States; Posts: 8812, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 10, 2002; Reply to: Ron (Houston)

Re: Aston AMV8 RS

Sorry forgot the CG image.

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Dec 8, 2005 5:24:32 PM

Turbo Al: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Rochester, New York , United States; Posts: 2531, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 3, 2005; Reply to: temm

Re: Aston AMV8 RS

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temm said:
Louder exhaust?
According to Top Gear, you can hear the normal Vantage 2 miles away!

Now maybe it's good for 3 miles!

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Dec 8, 2005 6:39:55 PM

bazza: Expert; Loc: uk,za; Posts: 1393, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 29, 2005; Reply to: Turbo Al

Re: Aston AMV8 RS

is that the new Mg rover hatchback!?

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Dec 8, 2005 8:06:05 PM

bostonmini: Veteran; Loc:; Posts: 924, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 31, 2003; Reply to: bazza

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I think it will look better in real life, looks SUPER squat in this pic, now its really like a 911 hehe. but seriously, when u see how low and wide it is, that helps.

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Dec 8, 2005 8:44:13 PM

Turbo 911: Co-Pilot; Loc:; Posts: 185, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 29, 2005; Reply to: Ron (Houston)

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I doubt it can outperform the Porsche GT3s - why you ask? I think it is because Aston are behind Porsche on cornering and handling - they were convinced that the AMV8 would be faster than a 997 911 around the Nurburgring - it wasn't. The AMV8 in Top Gear was slower by 6 seconds around a small track in the Isle of Man (UK) than the 911S. Astons at the moment I think are more like motorway cruisers rather than focused sports cars. I believe there is no substitute for Porsche and so I doubt an Aston AMV8 RS can come close to even say a 996 GT3 (e.g. look at its weight! - for an RS!)

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Dec 9, 2005 12:59:18 AM

Turbo Al: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Rochester, New York , United States; Posts: 2531, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 3, 2005; Reply to: Turbo 911

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Turbo 911 said:
I doubt it can outperform the Porsche GT3s - why you ask? I think it is because Aston are behind Porsche on cornering and handling - they were convinced that the AMV8 would be faster than a 997 911 around the Nurburgring - it wasn't. The AMV8 in Top Gear was slower by 6 seconds around a small track in the Isle of Man (UK) than the 911S. Astons at the moment I think are more like motorway cruisers rather than focused sports cars. I believe there is no substitute for Porsche and so I doubt an Aston AMV8 RS can come close to even say a 996 GT3 (e.g. look at its weight! - for an RS!)

I say stick the DB9's V12 in it, supercharge it, keep the blubber off it, then it might rock.

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Dec 9, 2005 3:26:52 AM

Ron (Houston): Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Houston, TX , United States; Posts: 8812, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 10, 2002; Reply to: Turbo 911

Re: Aston AMV8 RS

No doubt in my mind that it can't compete with 996 GT3 as you said let alone 997 GT3 not even if the make it a V8 RSR.

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Dec 9, 2005 8:22:17 PM

stanwan: Junior; Loc: UK; Posts: 56, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 17, 2005; Reply to: Turbo 911

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Turbo 911 said:
I doubt it can outperform the Porsche GT3s - why you ask? I think it is because Aston are behind Porsche on cornering and handling - they were convinced that the AMV8 would be faster than a 997 911 around the Nurburgring - it wasn't. The AMV8 in Top Gear was slower by 6 seconds around a small track in the Isle of Man (UK) than the 911S. Astons at the moment I think are more like motorway cruisers rather than focused sports cars. I believe there is no substitute for Porsche and so I doubt an Aston AMV8 RS can come close to even say a 996 GT3 (e.g. look at its weight! - for an RS!)

How's about a noble?

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Dec 9, 2005 9:04:14 PM

Turbo Al: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Rochester, New York , United States; Posts: 2531, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 3, 2005; Reply to: stanwan

Re: Aston AMV8 RS

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stanwan said:
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Turbo 911 said:
I doubt it can outperform the Porsche GT3s - why you ask? I think it is because Aston are behind Porsche on cornering and handling - they were convinced that the AMV8 would be faster than a 997 911 around the Nurburgring - it wasn't. The AMV8 in Top Gear was slower by 6 seconds around a small track in the Isle of Man (UK) than the 911S. Astons at the moment I think are more like motorway cruisers rather than focused sports cars. I believe there is no substitute for Porsche and so I doubt an Aston AMV8 RS can come close to even say a 996 GT3 (e.g. look at its weight! - for an RS!)

How's about a noble?

The M400 beats the 996GT3RS on the track, as well as on the road, point-and-shoot, the M400 goes 0-60mph 3.3-3.5 (depending on whether or not you add weight with AC and a stereo

), 0-100mph <8seconds, but any 911 has faster top speed. My M400 should be ready by March/April 2006, so I'll write a comparison between it and my 996TSCab next year....

Unless, I trade 'em all in for an Enzo beforehand as JimFlat6 has suggested.

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Dec 9, 2005 11:53:26 PM

bazza: Expert; Loc: uk,za; Posts: 1393, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 29, 2005; Reply to: stanwan

Re: Aston AMV8 RS

how about noble !? then how about Ultima GTR!?

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Dec 10, 2005 2:39:50 AM

JimFlat6: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Cave , United States; Posts: 8633, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 25, 2004; Reply to: Turbo Al

Re: Aston AMV8 RS

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Al Pettee said:
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stanwan said:
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Turbo 911 said:
I doubt it can outperform the Porsche GT3s - why you ask? I think it is because Aston are behind Porsche on cornering and handling - they were convinced that the AMV8 would be faster than a 997 911 around the Nurburgring - it wasn't. The AMV8 in Top Gear was slower by 6 seconds around a small track in the Isle of Man (UK) than the 911S. Astons at the moment I think are more like motorway cruisers rather than focused sports cars. I believe there is no substitute for Porsche and so I doubt an Aston AMV8 RS can come close to even say a 996 GT3 (e.g. look at its weight! - for an RS!)

How's about a noble?

The M400 beats the 996GT3RS on the track, as well as on the road, point-and-shoot, the M400 goes 0-60mph 3.3-3.5 (depending on whether or not you add weight with AC and a stereo ), 0-100mph <8seconds, but any 911 has faster top speed. My M400 should be ready by March/April 2006, so I'll write a comparison between it and my 996TSCab next year.... Unless, I trade 'em all in for an Enzo beforehand as JimFlat6 has suggested.

Al, Trade em in, at least on a CGT - the last real
Porsche made (ask me why later), or go slumming in a 288GTO or F40.

The Noble will be amusing at first, the TS Cab makes a great top down snow plow and the 997TTS will surely be too serious in its usual Porsche Turbo angst laden driving way.

In the world of car ownership, they are nice, but still a tier or two down from the true pinnacles of emotion and driving brio

Think of it like this, if its attainable, wouldnt you rather drink Cyrstal or Dom instead of Mumms or fizzed up Rhine Wine?

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Dec 10, 2005 3:40:26 AM

Turbo Al: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Rochester, New York , United States; Posts: 2531, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 3, 2005; Reply to: JimFlat6

Re: Aston AMV8 RS

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JimFlat6 said:
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Al Pettee said:
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stanwan said:
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Turbo 911 said:
I doubt it can outperform the Porsche GT3s - why you ask? I think it is because Aston are behind Porsche on cornering and handling - they were convinced that the AMV8 would be faster than a 997 911 around the Nurburgring - it wasn't. The AMV8 in Top Gear was slower by 6 seconds around a small track in the Isle of Man (UK) than the 911S. Astons at the moment I think are more like motorway cruisers rather than focused sports cars. I believe there is no substitute for Porsche and so I doubt an Aston AMV8 RS can come close to even say a 996 GT3 (e.g. look at its weight! - for an RS!)

How's about a noble?

The M400 beats the 996GT3RS on the track, as well as on the road, point-and-shoot, the M400 goes 0-60mph 3.3-3.5 (depending on whether or not you add weight with AC and a stereo ), 0-100mph <8seconds, but any 911 has faster top speed. My M400 should be ready by March/April 2006, so I'll write a comparison between it and my 996TSCab next year.... Unless, I trade 'em all in for an Enzo beforehand as JimFlat6 has suggested.

Al, Trade em in, at least on a CGT - the last real
Porsche made (ask me why later), or go slumming in a 288GTO or F40.

The Noble will be amusing at first, the TS Cab makes a great top down snow plow and the 997TTS will surely be too serious in its usual Porsche Turbo angst laden driving way.

In the world of car ownership, they are nice, but still a tier or two down from the true pinnacles of emotion and driving brio

Think of it like this, if its attainable, wouldnt you rather drink Cyrstal or Dom instead of Mumms or fizzed up Rhine Wine?

I take it you are trying to "tempt" me to "move up" in my purchases?

Maybe I should bag the 997TT deposit, and save the dough for the rumoured Bugatti Veyron convertible. . . .

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Dec 10, 2005 3:43:33 AM

Turbo Al: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Rochester, New York , United States; Posts: 2531, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 3, 2005; Reply to: Turbo Al

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. . .Imagine with the top down at 400kph.

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Dec 10, 2005 6:41:00 AM

JimFlat6: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Cave , United States; Posts: 8633, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 25, 2004; Reply to: Turbo Al

Re: Aston AMV8 RS

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Al Pettee said:
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JimFlat6 said:
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Al Pettee said:
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stanwan said:
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Turbo 911 said:
I doubt it can outperform the Porsche GT3s - why you ask? I think it is because Aston are behind Porsche on cornering and handling - they were convinced that the AMV8 would be faster than a 997 911 around the Nurburgring - it wasn't. The AMV8 in Top Gear was slower by 6 seconds around a small track in the Isle of Man (UK) than the 911S. Astons at the moment I think are more like motorway cruisers rather than focused sports cars. I believe there is no substitute for Porsche and so I doubt an Aston AMV8 RS can come close to even say a 996 GT3 (e.g. look at its weight! - for an RS!)

How's about a noble?

The M400 beats the 996GT3RS on the track, as well as on the road, point-and-shoot, the M400 goes 0-60mph 3.3-3.5 (depending on whether or not you add weight with AC and a stereo ), 0-100mph <8seconds, but any 911 has faster top speed. My M400 should be ready by March/April 2006, so I'll write a comparison between it and my 996TSCab next year.... Unless, I trade 'em all in for an Enzo beforehand as JimFlat6 has suggested.

Al, Trade em in, at least on a CGT - the last real
Porsche made (ask me why later), or go slumming in a 288GTO or F40.

The Noble will be amusing at first, the TS Cab makes a great top down snow plow and the 997TTS will surely be too serious in its usual Porsche Turbo angst laden driving way.

In the world of car ownership, they are nice, but still a tier or two down from the true pinnacles of emotion and driving brio

Think of it like this, if its attainable, wouldnt you rather drink Cyrstal or Dom instead of Mumms or fizzed up Rhine Wine?

I take it you are trying to "tempt" me to "move up" in my purchases? Maybe I should bag the 997TT deposit, and save the dough for the rumoured Bugatti Veyron convertible. . . .

Hold off on the Veyron convertible, they havent certified the 250mph sunglasses yet.

Herr Direktor of Bugatti did say this month that the Veyron was merely the profitless halo car to promote their coming $129,000 USD standard model. So soon, even some Porsche buyers can choose a Bugatti instead.

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Dec 10, 2005 8:08:10 AM

temm: Rennteam Master; Loc: Oslo , Norway; Posts: 4122, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 24, 2003; Reply to: Ron (Houston)

Re: Aston AMV8 RS

I think this is just wishful thinking from the english press now that it is clear that the AM Vantage is NOT the 911-beater they've all hailed it to be for the last three years

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Dec 10, 2005 9:39:17 AM

AS: Co-Pilot; Loc:; Posts: 224, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 1, 2004; Reply to: temm

Re: Aston AMV8 RS

test drove the AM V8 couple wks ago (manual, 19", + bunch of other options). 997 feels more nimble, balanced, & planted to the roads (particularly over crests & road imperfections). lifting off the throttle, AM V8 glides along like a luxury GT car - even though its exhaust makes it sound like a le-mans racer (quite a bit louder than 997 w/PSE), an odd match to say the least. RS version will prob be considerably more responsive than its base AM V8, but i doubt one will get anywhere near the amt of driver involvement (or one-ness with the car) of a GT3.

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Dec 10, 2005 2:25:35 PM

Moogle: Rennteam Master; Loc: Bay Area , United States; Posts: 5019, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 9, 2003; Reply to: AS

Re: Aston AMV8 RS

doesnt feel real at all. aston has no reason to do a trackday style car. their appeal is to gentleman GTers and not to the trackday crowd.

they already have semi/racing DB9 variants to take care of the real hardcore fanatics.

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