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Jul 24, 2008 9:01:03 PM
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Jul 24, 2008 9:07:14 PM
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Re: Sportauto Supertest of 997s Mk2
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The numbers are impressiveLooking forward to read HvS's comments,
Absolutely. Quite an amazing test result. Somehow compatible with the excellent test result in the recent issue of AutoZeitung where the 997s easily copes with the Z06
Jul 24, 2008 9:42:50 PM
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Re: Sportauto Supertest of 997s Mk2
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Wow... only 4 seconds off the GT2 and 3 off the GT3RS from their Supertest results.
Not quite: the GT2 did the NBR 17s quicker and HHR more than 3.5s quicker
Oops! That was a 996 GT2.
The 997 was indeed 7:32.02 driven by WR.
Jul 24, 2008 10:26:35 PM
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Re: Sportauto Supertest of 997s Mk2
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Does the resurfacing have something to do with this incredible time (and other times reported recently)?
There is no scientific evidence about the effect of the resurfacing on laptimes. FWIW: race driver Marc Basseng guesstimates 4 sec. or so (not sure to which car he refers -usually he drives a RSR). Pole setters in the VLN series have improved laptimes by 10 sec or so (compared to previous year). Not sure how much of the improvement is gained via the car hardware vs. track resurfacing
Re: Sportauto Supertest of 997s Mk2
HvS reduced the 997.2 time by 15secs compared to 997.1. However, 997.1 was with normal tyres. I don't know by how much the corsa/cup tyres reduce the NBR lap time.
With an analogous rate of progress do yoy think the 997.2 TT and GT3 can approach the magic number set by the GT-R?
With an analogous rate of progress do yoy think the 997.2 TT and GT3 can approach the magic number set by the GT-R?
Jul 25, 2008 8:32:18 AM
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Re: Sportauto Supertest of 997s Mk2
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HvS reduced the 997.2 time by 15secs compared to 997.1. However, 997.1 was with normal tyres. I don't know by how much the corsa/cup tyres reduce the NBR lap time.
It's mentioned in the article: 8 seconds. The HHR lap was done with Bridgestone Potenza though.
Jul 25, 2008 10:03:01 AM
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Re: Sportauto Supertest of 997s Mk2
Some comments from HvS:
Pros
> further improved handling (enhanced PASM),
> better straight running stability at highspeed,
> less wind noise
Cons
> PDK interface ("completely misplaced")
> "antiseptic" driving experience in PDK automatic mode
> Sound less meaty at low revs (compared to 997.1)
> Steering feel a bit "synthetic"
Pros
> further improved handling (enhanced PASM),
> better straight running stability at highspeed,
> less wind noise
Cons
> PDK interface ("completely misplaced"
)> "antiseptic" driving experience in PDK automatic mode
> Sound less meaty at low revs (compared to 997.1)
> Steering feel a bit "synthetic"
Jul 25, 2008 11:38:39 AM
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Re: Sportauto Supertest of 997s Mk2
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The Ring time is impressive. However, we must take into account that the acceleration time is so good thanks to the PDK shift speed.
Not quite... The 997s tested by AutoZeitung (latest issue) was equipped with manual gear-box. The car did 0-200 in 14.5s - thus, was even quicker than the Sportauto test car
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MarekN said:
The Ring time is impressive. However, we must take into account that the acceleration time is so good thanks to the PDK shift speed.
Not quite... The 997s tested by AutoZeitung (latest issue) was equipped with manual gear-box. The car did 0-200 in 14.5s - thus, was even quicker than the Sportauto test car
What were the rest of the numbers?
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MKSGR said:Quote:
MarekN said:
The Ring time is impressive. However, we must take into account that the acceleration time is so good thanks to the PDK shift speed.
Not quite... The 997s tested by AutoZeitung (latest issue) was equipped with manual gear-box. The car did 0-200 in 14.5s - thus, was even quicker than the Sportauto test car
What were the rest of the numbers?
Here you go:
www.rennteam.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=sportscar&Number=461794&page=0&fpart=1
Re: Sportauto Supertest of 997s Mk2
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7.50 is a good time for the facelift and a reasonable improvement. Now 997 C2S drivers can at last keep up with a 2003 CSL at the Ring.
Good joke
This one-time CSL lap-time wonder is one of the biggest mysteries in the SportAuto history... IMHO, the CSL is a nice car. However, this car is far from being capable of a 7.50 
Re: Sportauto Supertest of 997s Mk2
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AUM said:
7.50 is a good time for the facelift and a reasonable improvement. Now 997 C2S drivers can at last keep up with a 2003 CSL at the Ring.
Good joke
No joke. CSLs are very close to GT3s at the Ring and many other tracks. It is a drivers race that the CSL often wins as it is easier to drive at the limit. The 997.1 C2S cannot keep up with a CSL.
This 7.22 lap shows the capability of the CSL chassis (with a supercharger and other upgrades).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL7T9BD_Q3k
Re: Sportauto Supertest of 997s Mk2
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The NBR lap time makes perfect sense. It would be nice to know if the manual version is faster. But one is left to wonder: why is the 997TT so SLOW... IMHO should have been around 7.40.
The factory claim (997TT) actually is 7.42. Just, this number has never been verified by an independant source
Jul 28, 2008 7:37:52 AM
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this number has never been verified by an independant source
...and never will be verified by any "independent" source, unless the driver is as fast as W.R.
(same goes for any other car manufacturer claiming laptimes achieved by a professional driver with a racing background)
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