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This section should perhaps be renamed On the Track, for that is the Scuderia's natural habitat. And away from the speed cameras, other road users and forces of the law, it does things so far beyond the traditional realm of mere road cars on mere road tyres that even once you've experienced it, walked away, had a nice sit down and thought about, it still seems hard to grasp.
Sep 27, 2007 4:16:51 PM
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nberry said:
I think people need to keep the Scud in perspective. It may be faster than the Enzo around the Ferrari track but highly unlikely it would beat it on any other venue. Additionally, I suspect the Scud will not break 7.40 at the Ring.
Finally, in my opinion the car is over priced and totally useless for street driving. I frequently drove the 360 Stradale and after awhile behind the wheel, I would have a headache because of its rawness.
Just not my type of car.
) but it's how a REAL Ferrari should be ! FAST AND PURE !!!
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nberry said:
I think people need to keep the Scud in perspective. It may be faster than the Enzo around the Ferrari track but highly unlikely it would beat it on any other venue. Additionally, I suspect the Scud will not break 7.40 at the Ring.
Finally, in my opinion the car is over priced and totally useless for street driving. I frequently drove the 360 Stradale and after awhile behind the wheel, I would have a headache because of its rawness.
Just not my type of car.
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Patriek said:it's how a REAL Ferrari should be ! FAST AND PURE !!!
I agree, except to be really Pure, they should have a manual gearbox option
Sep 28, 2007 11:58:41 AM
Sep 28, 2007 1:23:38 PM
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nberry said:
I think people need to keep the Scud in perspective. It may be faster than the Enzo around the Ferrari track but highly unlikely it would beat it on any other venue. Additionally, I suspect the Scud will not break 7.40 at the Ring.
Finally, in my opinion the car is over priced and totally useless for street driving. I frequently drove the 360 Stradale and after awhile behind the wheel, I would have a headache because of its rawness.
Just not my type of car.
I agree with nick, I usually love the stripped out cars for their purposefullness, but lately Im thinking they really are just track toys...the regular F430 can be specced with much of the same stuff, CC brakes etc...for a road car, its likely better...
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nberry said:
Finally, in my opinion the car is over priced and totally useless for street driving.
Sep 28, 2007 2:41:10 PM
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bostonmini said:
I agree with nick, I usually love the stripped out cars for their purposefullness, but lately Im thinking they really are just track toys...the regular F430 can be specced with much of the same stuff, CC brakes etc...for a road car, its likely better...
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nberry said:
I think people need to keep the Scud in perspective. It may be faster than the Enzo around the Ferrari track but highly unlikely it would beat it on any other venue. Additionally, I suspect the Scud will not break 7.40 at the Ring.
Finally, in my opinion the car is over priced and totally useless for street driving. I frequently drove the 360 Stradale and after awhile behind the wheel, I would have a headache because of its rawness.
Just not my type of car.
Not your type of car,(that's no surprise
I can't wait to drive (and race) it !
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STRADALE said:
Fast car. Makes me wonder how fast the 430's replacement will be.
Probably GT2 territory.
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nberry said:
I think people need to keep the Scud in perspective. It may be faster than the Enzo around the Ferrari track but highly unlikely it would beat it on any other venue. Additionally, I suspect the Scud will not break 7.40 at the Ring.
Finally, in my opinion the car is over priced and totally useless for street driving. I frequently drove the 360 Stradale and after awhile behind the wheel, I would have a headache because of its rawness.
Just not my type of car.
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STRADALE said:
Fast car. Makes me wonder how fast the 430's replacement will be.
Probably GT2 territory.
The Scud is already as fast as the GT2 & carries less weight per hp. The 430 replacement will be lighter and faster than the GT2 easy.
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No. Scud will be slower then GT2 on three major German race track used by their car mags-Hockenheim, Nordschleife and Oschersleben. Trust me on this...
If the difference in NBR lap times was (for example) just 3-4s or so one could argue that the Scuderia has much more of an identity and is still nearly as fast as the (a bit boring?) GT2...Sep 28, 2007 6:25:18 PM
Sep 28, 2007 6:53:11 PM
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KresoF1 said:
No. Scud will be slower then GT2 on three major German race track used by their car mags-Hockenheim, Nordschleife and Oschersleben. Trust me on this...
Sep 28, 2007 7:10:26 PM
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KresoF1 said:
No. Scud will be slower then GT2 on three major German race track used by their car mags-Hockenheim, Nordschleife and Oschersleben. Trust me on this...
What would the reasons be for it to be slower than the GT2? The tires, the damping, or the overall balance and package differences between the two? Would this translate to other circuits like Spa, Paul Ricard, Mugello, Imola, and Misano for example?
Sep 28, 2007 7:42:18 PM
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KresoF1 said:
No. Scud will be slower then GT2 on three major German race track used by their car mags-Hockenheim, Nordschleife and Oschersleben. Trust me on this...
What would the reasons be for it to be slower than the GT2? The tires, the damping, or the overall balance and package differences between the two? Would this translate to other circuits like Spa, Paul Ricard, Mugello, Imola, and Misano for example?
Sep 29, 2007 3:40:52 AM
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commendatore said:
"Not your type of car,(that's no surprise ) but it's how a REAL Ferrari should be ! FAST AND PURE !!!
I can't wait to drive (and race) it ! "
Patriek > I hope we'll see you on a track with the club Ferrari
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nberry said:
It may be faster than the Enzo around the Ferrari track but highly unlikely it would beat it on any other venue.
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nberry said:
I think people need to keep the Scud in perspective. It may be faster than the Enzo around the Ferrari track but highly unlikely it would beat it on any other venue. Additionally, I suspect the Scud will not break 7.40 at the Ring.
Finally, in my opinion the car is over priced and totally useless for street driving. I frequently drove the 360 Stradale and after awhile behind the wheel, I would have a headache because of its rawness.
Just not my type of car.
You're getting too old Nick. The difference in the CS vs the 430 is not that big at all especially since the 430's exhaust is much louder than the Modena. I never had a problem driving my CS all day and still ready for more. And now find my 430 very similair to my CS.
The differences CS vs 430 in terms of comfort/everyday use are very small, matter of fact you couldn't find 2 cars that are more alike.
BTW, I agree with you, Nick is getting too old (senile, early dementia?).Quote:
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nberry said:
It may be faster than the Enzo around the Ferrari track but highly unlikely it would beat it on any other venue.
So, the scud will be "near" enzo territory, yes?
The scud is less than half the price of the original enzo price. You should be complaining then, right?
Your comments about the GT2 being at CGT territory should relate quite nicely here too, don't you think?
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nberry said:
It may be faster than the Enzo around the Ferrari track but highly unlikely it would beat it on any other venue.
So, the scud will be "near" enzo territory, yes?
The scud is less than half the price of the original enzo price. You should be complaining then, right?
Your comments about the GT2 being at CGT territory should relate quite nicely here too, don't you think?
The difference is the Enzo sells for about $500,000 over its MSRP. The CGT sells for about $100,000 LESS than its MSRP. Porsche by introducing a car with about the same performance parameters for $250,000 less while the CGT resale values are continuing to decline is treating their best customers rather shabbily.
Your twisted mind is probably thinking Enzo owners are hating themselves for paying $500k over MSRP for a car that's now matched by the Scuderia at 1/4 the price, and hating Ferrari for once again spitting in their faces. 
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