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Apr 8, 2007 7:33:43 AM

Georges G. Hayek: Senior; Loc: Beirut , Lebanon; Posts: 650, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 1, 2006

Feels like I'm gonna cheat on my baby

It all started in Jan 07 when I organized a trip with some friends to France and fixed up a driving session in a circuit. I chose to drive both the 997 and the f430, this is when the big problem began... After finishing lapping in the 997 came time to jump-in the f430. Now, on-board, I felt this could be bad... very bad... first, starting up the engine, I heard that screaming V8 jingling to my ears, then, came time to drive... One word, it is astonishing!!!!! I've always been fan of manual transmission but that f1 gear box on that f430 is just amazingly amazing!!! The feeling when changing gear is breathtaking. The way the V8 sits right next to you with the possibility to visualize it just left me speechless. I then realized what might happened to me, temptation got over me... I literally felt in love.
Now back to my hometown, I never stopped thinking of that short moment spend in that f430, thus, "not really enjoying my 997 anymore " I now am more and more tempted to switch to the f430, but hey...
Now... What should I do?! keep my 997 or f430 all the way?

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Apr 8, 2007 8:13:17 AM

U Boat Commander: Veteran; Loc: Los Angeles, CA; Posts: 1250, Gallery; Registered on: May 8, 2004; Reply to: Georges G. Hayek

Re: Feels like I'm gonna cheat on my baby

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Apr 8, 2007 9:32:56 AM

ResB: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Yorkshire, where roads are twisty... , United Kingdom; Posts: 2858, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 19, 2006; Reply to: U Boat Commander

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If you can afford one, get one. They do sound particularly special. Oh, and they're fairly quick as well.

I'm sure the 997 will understand that short skirts and high heels win every time.

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Apr 8, 2007 11:06:41 AM

JFT: Co-Pilot; Loc: Sweden; Posts: 291, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 1, 2006; Reply to: ResB

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Try a 997 GT3/RS before comitting adultery.

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Apr 8, 2007 11:12:54 AM

Gnil: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: VD, Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 14174, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 11, 2005; Reply to: JFT

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Try a 997 GT3/RS before comitting adultery.

I agree.. try a GT3 before !

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Apr 8, 2007 12:01:41 PM

Georges G. Hayek: Senior; Loc: Beirut , Lebanon; Posts: 650, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 1, 2006; Reply to: Gnil

Re: Feels like I'm gonna cheat on my baby

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JFT said:
Try a 997 GT3/RS before comitting adultery.

I agree.. try a GT3 before !

I have already driven a Tip 997TT, it was a big disappointment for me, not much feeling involved. I guess that the GT3 / RS would give another and more aggressive driving sensation but yet again, it's another 911 but with more power...
I am too a Porsche enthusiast, this is my second P. but driving that f1 f430 made me discover new horizons.
The question for you JFT and Gnil, have you tried the f430? I bet you'll understand me...

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Apr 8, 2007 12:17:02 PM

DennisVR: Newbie; Loc: Belgium; Posts: 6, Gallery; Registered on: May 11, 2006; Reply to: Georges G. Hayek

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I can't believe you are leaving her for such a bimbo! :P

jk

Do what your heart desires

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Apr 8, 2007 1:32:31 PM

SrfCity: Expert; Loc: Orange County, CA; Posts: 1339, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 21, 2004; Reply to: DennisVR

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Get both a GT3 and 430. Problem solved.

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Apr 8, 2007 1:37:16 PM

jamesaug: Pilot; Loc: UK; Posts: 414, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 10, 2005; Reply to: SrfCity

Re: Feels like I'm gonna cheat on my baby

nooooo! Try a gt3 before you swap!

At least then there will be no regrets!

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Apr 8, 2007 2:49:35 PM

doc2s: Junior; Loc: boston, usa; Posts: 113, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 27, 2005; Reply to: jamesaug

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if you will get one car for street use then f430. it will put a smile on your face regardless of what speed you drive it at.
if you will be doing a lot of track driving then the gt3.

there is an exhaust hack for the 430 similar to the pse hack. with hack done the car sounds a lot more sweeter. check this video. sound quality is not the bes with cell phone mic. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MScRjC3kGw

best to drive the gt3 before making any decision.

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Apr 8, 2007 2:59:18 PM

JFT: Co-Pilot; Loc: Sweden; Posts: 291, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 1, 2006; Reply to: Georges G. Hayek

Re: Feels like I'm gonna cheat on my baby

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Georges G. Hayek said:
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Gnil said:
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JFT said:
Try a 997 GT3/RS before comitting adultery.

I agree.. try a GT3 before !

I have already driven a Tip 997TT, it was a big disappointment for me, not much feeling involved. I guess that the GT3 / RS would give another and more aggressive driving sensation but yet again, it's another 911 but with more power...
I am too a Porsche enthusiast, this is my second P. but driving that f1 f430 made me discover new horizons.
The question for you JFT and Gnil, have you tried the f430? I bet you'll understand me...

I have tried the F430 and also a 360. They are very sensual expeiences to drive, especially the F430. However, and there are no 2 ways about this, the GT3/RS experience is much more profound in the long run. The depth of engineering and the quality feel of the whole car. This said, if you never track the car and are mainly looking for that special feeling road driving car, very little compares to a modern Ferrari / Lambo. But if you want the best built car that puts a huge smile on your face every time you drive it then it's got to be a GT3! An 430 just can't keep up. 599 is another story...

Oh, and the 997TT is a completely different car with it's own pros and cons. If it's a more engaging, visceral experience you're after, a 997TT Tip is not a move in the right direction for you.

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Apr 8, 2007 3:09:40 PM

krC2S: Junior; Loc: Boston,USA; Posts: 122, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 30, 2005; Reply to: JFT

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street only 430 no comparison

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Apr 8, 2007 3:14:33 PM

1st997: Co-Pilot; Loc: CT; Posts: 272, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 21, 2005; Reply to: doc2s

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The 997 may come and go, the F430 is....

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Apr 8, 2007 4:10:10 PM

Neil Schneider: Co-Pilot; Loc: New Jersey, USA; Posts: 278, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 8, 2006; Reply to: jamesaug

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The 430 is so beautiful, if you have the bucks go for it. Not really a fair comparison though.

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Apr 8, 2007 4:52:22 PM

Georges G. Hayek: Senior; Loc: Beirut , Lebanon; Posts: 650, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 1, 2006; Reply to: Neil Schneider

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I agree that the GT3 is a masterpiece in the track. But unfortunately since we do not have tracks in my country, I guess I won't be able to get the most of it... The adrenaline rush you get from the f430 form road cruising is, I suppose, superior...

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Apr 8, 2007 5:03:15 PM

Haku: Pilot; Loc: TN , United States; Posts: 481, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 6, 2005; Reply to: Georges G. Hayek

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Georges, from my understanding the successor to the f430 should be out in about 18 months. Would you be going for a new f430 ? if so, you might as well get the new version as the wait would be about a year anyway... I think.

On to your main question...if your heart desires it... do it. The Pcar is a different drive altogether... not worse, just different.

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Apr 8, 2007 5:14:43 PM

mvn1971: Senior; Loc: HB, California, USA; Posts: 658, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 9, 2006; Reply to: Georges G. Hayek

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Understandable the F430 is a great car. But can you put 5000 miles in 4 months in a F430 like I've done in my GT3. You can't drive that car everyday. I rarely see Ferrari's with any high mileage. You can't drive these cars everyday. Consider a GT3, reliable, powerful, drivable, and fun. I would consider a F430 myself but you cannot drive it daily. I don't want to buy anything I can't drive everyday, especially for that type of money.

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Apr 8, 2007 5:15:00 PM

MMD: Rennteam VIP; Loc: usa; Posts: 9652, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 16, 2004; Reply to: Haku

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I'd buy an F-car if I were a rock star or the latest movie star. At present I only waste money on extremely expensive cars (Porsches) I don't blow money on astronomically expensive cars (Ferraris).

But that's just me... .

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Apr 8, 2007 5:58:09 PM

Targa Tim: Expert; Loc: Vancouver, BC, Canada , Canada; Posts: 1475, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 3, 2005; Reply to: MMD

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I'd buy an F-car if I were a rock star or the latest movie star. At present I only waste money on extremely expensive cars (Porsches) I don't blow money on astronomically expensive cars (Ferraris).

But that's just me... .

Me too.

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Apr 8, 2007 6:26:09 PM

Circe: Co-Pilot; Loc: NH, USA; Posts: 157, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 26, 2005; Reply to: Targa Tim

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Habeebe,

Is there a Ferrari mechanic in your neck of the woods with less than a 6 month backlog? If the answer is yes and you have the means, and your heart says F430, run, don't walk, and get one. Don't waste another minute with a toy you are not in love with. Later, if your feelings turn against the F-car, you can always come back.

Just my 2 cents. Good luck whichever way you go.

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Apr 8, 2007 7:02:05 PM

doc2s: Junior; Loc: boston, usa; Posts: 113, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 27, 2005; Reply to: Haku

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Haku said:
Georges, from my understanding the successor to the f430 should be out in about 18 months. Would you be going for a new f430 ? if so, you might as well get the new version as the wait would be about a year anyway... I think.

that will be the track-oriented version of the f430 not its replacement.
On to your main question...if your heart desires it... do it. The Pcar is a different drive altogether... not worse, just different.

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Apr 8, 2007 7:25:31 PM

Puffy911: Pilot; Loc: Denver, Colorado, USA; Posts: 474, Gallery; Registered on: May 29, 2006; Reply to: 1st997

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I can't let my wife see this thread. She LUSTS over F-cars. Would I have to build a fireproof box to park a "new" F car in?

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Apr 8, 2007 8:43:18 PM

Georges G. Hayek: Senior; Loc: Beirut , Lebanon; Posts: 650, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 1, 2006; Reply to: Circe

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Habeebe,

Is there a Ferrari mechanic in your neck of the woods with less than a 6 month backlog? If the answer is yes and you have the means, and your heart says F430, run, don't walk, and get one. Don't waste another minute with a toy you are not in love with. Later, if your feelings turn against the F-car, you can always come back.

Just my 2 cents. Good luck whichever way you go.

It's a pre-owned f430 f1, red / black interior with red stitches.I won't be hitting on new...

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Apr 8, 2007 10:36:46 PM

krC2S: Junior; Loc: Boston,USA; Posts: 122, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 30, 2005; Reply to: Georges G. Hayek

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go for it

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Habeebe,

Is there a Ferrari mechanic in your neck of the woods with less than a 6 month backlog? If the answer is yes and you have the means, and your heart says F430, run, don't walk, and get one. Don't waste another minute with a toy you are not in love with. Later, if your feelings turn against the F-car, you can always come back.

Just my 2 cents. Good luck whichever way you go.

It's a pre-owned f430 f1, red / black interior with red stitches.I won't be hitting on new...

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Apr 9, 2007 2:29:33 AM

bstew: Expert; Loc: NC, USA; Posts: 1797, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 11, 2005; Reply to: doc2s

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I would go f430.

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Apr 9, 2007 3:10:03 AM

doc2s: Junior; Loc: boston, usa; Posts: 113, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 27, 2005; Reply to: mvn1971

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Understandable the F430 is a great car. But can you put 5000 miles in 4 months in a F430 like I've done in my GT3. You can't drive that car everyday. I rarely see Ferrari's with any high mileage. You can't drive these cars everyday. Consider a GT3, reliable, powerful, drivable, and fun. I would consider a F430 myself but you cannot drive it daily. I don't want to buy anything I can't drive everyday, especially for that type of money.

a guys on fchat has been using his 06 f430 as a daily driver. he has more than 14k miles on it.

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Apr 9, 2007 3:45:17 AM

Dan L: Expert; Loc: Santa Barbara, CA , United States; Posts: 1957, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 2, 2006; Reply to: doc2s

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Don't 'real' Ferraris have 12 cylinders?

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Apr 9, 2007 7:54:13 AM

Gnil: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: VD, Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 14174, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 11, 2005; Reply to: Georges G. Hayek

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Georges G. Hayek said:
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Habeebe,

Is there a Ferrari mechanic in your neck of the woods with less than a 6 month backlog? If the answer is yes and you have the means, and your heart says F430, run, don't walk, and get one. Don't waste another minute with a toy you are not in love with. Later, if your feelings turn against the F-car, you can always come back.

Just my 2 cents. Good luck whichever way you go.

It's a pre-owned f430 f1, red / black interior with red stitches.I won't be hitting on new...

Your mind seems to be set.... You know what you want !
Follow your heart

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Apr 9, 2007 2:06:37 PM

Oxonian: Pilot; Loc: Jeddah, Saudi Arabia; Posts: 488, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 28, 2005; Reply to: Gnil

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My friend just canceled his 997TT order and got an 06 Gallardo E-gear with 3000 km. I drove the Gallardo last week and it has far more emotion than a 997TT. However, the Lambo is NOT a daily driver. It's too loud, too low and too bling-bling to go to work or a meeting/client.

My CEO almost got a white F430, but he reconsidered saying that its 'a deal breaker' with clients.

The Italian baby cars (V8/V10) are a bit too much unless its strictly a weekend car. A 997 (including GT3) can be driven everyday.

If I had the money, I'd get an F599 as its the best of both worlds.

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Apr 9, 2007 2:27:31 PM

Rickg87: Newbie; Loc: NJ, USA; Posts: 41, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 21, 2007; Reply to: Gnil

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I own a 993 and an F430(keeping both).GT3 is coming. The 430 is just awsome and I love it. But I'm really looking foward to the GT3. I feel like it may be more involving with the 6sp manual. On the track the F1 trans is great. But for short runs on the windy back roads I miss the manual shifting. I also think I would drive the GT3 more. The 430
draws a lot of attention everywhere I go with it. My guess is that once I get the GT3, if I had to keep only 1 car, It would be the GT3, for daily fun or track days. Dont get me wrong, the 430 is so exciting from the moment you fire it up to the time you pull it back in the garage.If I wanted ultimate awsome machine, work of art, and the look at me factor, the F430. But for driving it to a lot of places, leaving it parked, or not wanting so much attention, it would be the GT3.

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