Dec 15, 2006 10:09:15 AM
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Dec 15, 2006 6:47:27 PM
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69bossnine said:
If I were ordering one today, I'd ask for a real printout of my car, fully-spec'd, showing their cost and MSRP, and I'd offer $5,000 OVER what their cost was.
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Martini said:
If saving $ is a priority for you (it was for me), then I recommend emailing many dealers in other states & asking for their best price. I spent a week doing this & haggling, & it was well worth my effort. Most dealers will do $1-5k off, but I was able to negotiate one to 8% off my total w/options! And I didn't mind travelling for pick up & driving it back. And my C4S cab came to over $122k w/options. Is this Turbo money? Sure, but w/ no options. And how many order the base turbo w/ no options? Not many. And I really enjoy my options & plan to keep my car. Haggle. It's not pleasant, but you can save a lot of money.
Dec 18, 2006 7:34:41 PM
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Puffy911 said:
My comments below are targetted only for the USA market. I do not know how the car business works in other countries.
I do not believe you will ever get a single document that reflects the cost of the vehicle to the dealership. The salesmen may believe that the cost is one thing, but the cost to the franchise (dealership) owner may be less. I have no concrete information on how PCNA (Porsche North America) runs its business with its franchise owners but I do know for a fact that other brands offer the dealership managment "refunds" based on vehicle types, where it is in the production run, etc. [I believe in the US domestic market these are known as hold-backs.] Those refunds or discounts may never trickle down the sales team. They may show you a MSRP sticker and an invoice but at the end of the day the total cost that the dealer had to wire to PCNA may be less then that.
Many people may not realize that a dealership does not necessarily own the vehicle that is sitting on their lot for sale. Rather they "rent" it by the day to sit on their lot. Renting costs money, the longer a car sits the less profit can be realized from it. A good dealership accounting department will know how long a vehicle should sit on the lot before agressive discounting may be necessary to move it, and then fill it with an identical, yet "fresh" unit.
I love the car business!
Dec 19, 2006 12:06:42 PM