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30.03.2017 11:07:12

Porker: Rennteam VIP; Loc: SZ , Schweiz; Beiträge: 7068, Gallery; Registriert: 17.01.2005; Antwort auf: Gnil

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

Gnil:
Porker:
I know, I'm just kidding. I didn't see which way the purple one went.

We'll do a rematch between us asap!

indeed it is a real fear modern Porsches will feel far too distant and Polished compared to 997 and 996 GT's.

Pétrole head talks, love it

Great for the rematch , but we should swap cars, I ma dying at the moment to drive a pure car

BTW : Not sure yet, but I might go to Dijon on the 17th of May .

I can imagine it will feel similar to my RS . You gain a layer of speed and efficiency , but loose a layer of rawness and purity , even with stick . Not sure stick compensates that on it own ....

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By May the RS will be sold unfortunately, I'm bringing it to PZ Zug by end of April. Wouldn't it be something for you on the side? I'm sure you would really enjoy it!

Indeed I doubt the stick would compensate enough, I think maybe a 911R would be a worthy successor as it is perhaps a bit more raw than 991 RS's and GT3, but these prices are obviously ridiculous.

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30.03.2017 11:20:45

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Deutschland; Beiträge: 59607, Gallery; Registriert: 26.03.2002; Antwort auf: Porker

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

Porker:
Gnil:
Porker:
I know, I'm just kidding. I didn't see which way the purple one went.

We'll do a rematch between us asap!

indeed it is a real fear modern Porsches will feel far too distant and Polished compared to 997 and 996 GT's.

Pétrole head talks, love it

Great for the rematch , but we should swap cars, I ma dying at the moment to drive a pure car

BTW : Not sure yet, but I might go to Dijon on the 17th of May .

I can imagine it will feel similar to my RS . You gain a layer of speed and efficiency , but loose a layer of rawness and purity , even with stick . Not sure stick compensates that on it own ....

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964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991 GT3 RS

By May the RS will be sold unfortunately, I'm bringing it to PZ Zug by end of April. Wouldn't it be something for you on the side? I'm sure you would really enjoy it!

Indeed I doubt the stick would compensate enough, I think maybe a 911R would be a worthy successor as it is perhaps a bit more raw than 991 RS's and GT3, but these prices are obviously ridiculous.

Smiley Smiley Family? You need to have a toy, no matter how much you want to be a family man. If you have to sell it, get at least another (less expensive) toy. Otherwise, you will regret it all the time.

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30.03.2017 11:29:46

Porker: Rennteam VIP; Loc: SZ , Schweiz; Beiträge: 7068, Gallery; Registriert: 17.01.2005; Antwort auf: RC

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

No not at all, don't worry. wink It's been with me for 3 years, it's time for something different I guess? Can't keep the same car forever.

As said, I'm on the list for the 991.2 GT3 manual, but that's an April build and I do fear its lack of purity a bit... yes

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30.03.2017 11:35:42

bluelines: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Argovia , Schweiz; Beiträge: 11655, Gallery; Registriert: 29.04.2005; Antwort auf: Porker

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

What about a 997.2 GT3 RS? For me this is the ultimate GT3... raw, mechanical, motorsport derived, and looks great.

I guess the GT4 will be a bit too much for you, so won't mention it... indecision

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30.03.2017 11:53:23

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Deutschland; Beiträge: 59607, Gallery; Registriert: 26.03.2002; Antwort auf: Porker

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

Porker:
No not at all, don't worry. It's been with me for 3 years, it's time for something different I guess? Can't keep the same car forever.

As said, I'm on the list for the 991.2 GT3 manual, but that's an April build and I do fear its lack of purity a bit...

Perfect. Smiley Lack of purity? You will love the engine and the chassis can always be tweaked. Smiley

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30.03.2017 13:02:47

Porker: Rennteam VIP; Loc: SZ , Schweiz; Beiträge: 7068, Gallery; Registriert: 17.01.2005; Antwort auf: bluelines

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

bluelines:
What about a 997.2 GT3 RS? For me this is the ultimate GT3... raw, mechanical, motorsport derived, and looks great.

I guess the GT4 will be a bit too much for you, so won't mention it...

That's high on my list indeed, but they're a bit overvalued and I struggle with the idea of paying over list for a car that'll be 90% similar.

But I agree, for me as well it is the ultimate GT3. Perhaps more so than a 4.0 as it is more rev hungry and durable. Smiley

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30.03.2017 13:47:33

Joost: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Dordrecht , Niederlande; Beiträge: 8059, Gallery; Registriert: 03.05.2004; Antwort auf: LP997

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

LP997:
whats the function of this "intake" hood?

Considering that the engine is in the back I would assume these are outlets rather than intakes.
What you often see with these kind of cars is that they provide an airflow that goes into the front bumper and out over the front hood. Purpose is often dual; improved cooling of the radiators that are located in the front, improved downforce (air that goes over the car rather than sideways or even under) and drag reduction (air that flows over the radiators and then is led through an intricate funnel system through the car is drag. Quickest way out is over the top, but normal cars have a luggage compartment there, so it is a no-go. For pure track cars it is an opportunity).

The RSR has a comparable front bonnet:

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30.03.2017 14:24:55

KresoF1: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Croatia , Kroatien; Beiträge: 7856, Gallery; Registriert: 03.12.2005; Antwort auf: Gnil

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

Gnil:
KresoF1:
, 991.2 GT3 RS is coming. Confirmed by my P source.

Confirmed normal production ?

No, limited production. More expensive then 991.1 GT3 RS in base price.

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30.03.2017 15:08:23

LP997: Senior; Loc: Nord/sud , Frankreich; Beiträge: 694, Gallery; Registriert: 30.12.2010; Antwort auf: KresoF1

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

oohoho!!! GT2 RS - front canard

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/2019-porsche-911-gt2-spied-again-has-massive-rear-wing-and-exhaust-tips-116570.html#

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30.03.2017 15:10:26

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Denver, CO , Vereinigte Staaten von Amerika; Beiträge: 12588, Gallery; Registriert: 21.08.2002; Antwort auf: LP997

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

GT2 RS?

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30.03.2017 15:10:46

LP997: Senior; Loc: Nord/sud , Frankreich; Beiträge: 694, Gallery; Registriert: 30.12.2010; Antwort auf: Grant

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

yes

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30.03.2017 15:23:05

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Denver, CO , Vereinigte Staaten von Amerika; Beiträge: 12588, Gallery; Registriert: 21.08.2002; Antwort auf: LP997

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

I wonder where the air in the front bonnet goes?

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30.03.2017 15:25:50

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Deutschland; Beiträge: 59607, Gallery; Registriert: 26.03.2002; Antwort auf: KresoF1

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

KresoF1:
Gnil:
KresoF1:
, 991.2 GT3 RS is coming. Confirmed by my P source.

Confirmed normal production ?

No, limited production. More expensive then 991.1 GT3 RS in base price.

If a 991.2 GT3 RS comes, it will be priced around 200k EUR (+/- 5k).

So far, the GT2 RS has priority though.

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30.03.2017 15:30:29

SportCarGroup: Expert; Loc: IL , Israel; Beiträge: 1834, Gallery; Registriert: 10.07.2012; Antwort auf: RC

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

What are the confirmed details about GT2RS by far? Engine? HP? Tech?

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30.03.2017 15:51:35

Gnil: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: VD, Switzerland , Schweiz; Beiträge: 14186, Gallery; Registriert: 11.03.2005; Antwort auf: KresoF1

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

KresoF1:
Gnil:
KresoF1:
, 991.2 GT3 RS is coming. Confirmed by my P source.

Confirmed normal production ?

No, limited production. More expensive then 991.1 GT3 RS in base price.

That would be interesting Smiley

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30.03.2017 15:52:48

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Denver, CO , Vereinigte Staaten von Amerika; Beiträge: 12588, Gallery; Registriert: 21.08.2002; Antwort auf: Gnil

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

Does anyone think those NACA ducts on the front bonnet are for cooling some sort of hybrid system that adds electric power to the front axle?

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30.03.2017 15:54:44

Gnil: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: VD, Switzerland , Schweiz; Beiträge: 14186, Gallery; Registriert: 11.03.2005; Antwort auf: LP997

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

LP997:
oohoho!!! GT2 RS - front canard

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/2019-porsche-911-gt2-spied-again-has-massive-rear-wing-and-exhaust-tips-116570.html#

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997 GT3 RS 3.6 - 964 RS - 993 RS - 991 GT3 RS

This front bonet is the same one as the one we see on the last spy pics supposedly being the next Gt3.2 RS

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30.03.2017 15:58:48

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Denver, CO , Vereinigte Staaten von Amerika; Beiträge: 12588, Gallery; Registriert: 21.08.2002; Antwort auf: Gnil

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

So what is your guess at what is connected to those NACA ducts, Eric?

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30.03.2017 16:18:21

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Deutschland; Beiträge: 59607, Gallery; Registriert: 26.03.2002; Antwort auf: SportCarGroup

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

SportCarGroup:
What are the confirmed details about GT2RS by far? Engine? HP? Tech?

At least 650 hp...twin turbo boxer engine...PDK only.

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30.03.2017 16:35:56

Gnil: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: VD, Switzerland , Schweiz; Beiträge: 14186, Gallery; Registriert: 11.03.2005; Antwort auf: Porker

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

Porker:

By May the RS will be sold unfortunately, I'm bringing it to PZ Zug by end of April. Wouldn't it be something for you on the side? I'm sure you would really enjoy it!

I am sure I would enjoy it . Ideally without the back wing, a tiny bit more road clearance .... so it could be my DD Smiley

But more seriously, I find the prices at the moment too high . I am betting that as soon as some of the 991.2 GT3 manual hit the roads, prices on 997.1 and .2 will have dropped a bit . I will consider one at that moment .

But send me the link anyway once it is up for sale Smiley

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30.03.2017 16:39:12

Gnil: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: VD, Switzerland , Schweiz; Beiträge: 14186, Gallery; Registriert: 11.03.2005; Antwort auf: Grant

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

Grant:
So what is your guess at what is connected to those NACA ducts, Eric?

Smiley Aero , cooling or induction ?

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30.03.2017 18:04:48

Joost: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Dordrecht , Niederlande; Beiträge: 8059, Gallery; Registriert: 03.05.2004; Antwort auf: Grant

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

Grant:
I wonder where the air in the front bonnet goes?

I don't know! Like I wrote before, I assumed they would be outlets... Looking from these images they are inlets after all!

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30.03.2017 18:32:57

Nacelle1: Junior; Loc: Cascadian Corridor , Kanada; Beiträge: 103, Gallery; Registriert: 21.06.2015; Antwort auf: Joost

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

The cost/value equation for this car will be very interesting

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30.03.2017 20:52:45

LP997: Senior; Loc: Nord/sud , Frankreich; Beiträge: 694, Gallery; Registriert: 30.12.2010; Antwort auf: Nacelle1

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

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30.03.2017 22:29:37

Targa Tim: Expert; Loc: Vancouver, BC, Canada , Kanada; Beiträge: 1475, Gallery; Registriert: 03.03.2005; Antwort auf: Porker

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

Porker:
Can't keep the same car forever.

Why not? You apply this rule to your woman too? Smiley Smiley

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31.03.2017 00:22:35

cay981: Newbie; Loc: Surrey , Vereinigtes Königreich; Beiträge: 13, Gallery; Registriert: 04.01.2017; Antwort auf: Targa Tim

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

Hello all!

I'm new, currently based in Singapore. I have been lurking in this forum since last Oct, after placing a deposit on the 991.2 GT3.

Just wanted to say I have thoroughly enjoyed the banter around here!

Could anyone assure me this is Carmine Red, and not Guards Red?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4PB-BDOTe0

Thanks in advance!

Ken

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31.03.2017 03:16:04

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Denver, CO , Vereinigte Staaten von Amerika; Beiträge: 12588, Gallery; Registriert: 21.08.2002; Antwort auf: cay981

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

Welcome, Ken! It's hard to tell if it's Carmine for sure, but that's my guess. It's difficult to know for sure with these photos and films that can be digitally manipulated.

Here's a photo I took at the dealer of Carmine and Guards samples if it helps...

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31.03.2017 03:28:31

cay981: Newbie; Loc: Surrey , Vereinigtes Königreich; Beiträge: 13, Gallery; Registriert: 04.01.2017; Antwort auf: Grant

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

Thanks Grant! This is much appreciated, the colour templates really show a marked difference between the 2 shades.....

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31.03.2017 05:52:28

Gnil: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: VD, Switzerland , Schweiz; Beiträge: 14186, Gallery; Registriert: 11.03.2005; Antwort auf: cay981

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

On the video i believe it is guard red but looks like carmin red .

The same happened with the car at the geneva show . On the photos it looked like carmin red, but once you saw it in reality it was guard red .

Grant's post shows well the difference .

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31.03.2017 08:14:24

Porker: Rennteam VIP; Loc: SZ , Schweiz; Beiträge: 7068, Gallery; Registriert: 17.01.2005; Antwort auf: Targa Tim

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

Targa Tim:
Porker:
Can't keep the same car forever.

Why not? You apply this rule to your woman too?

The question is, what ages better, 997's or women? Smiley Smiley

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