Jan 2, 2006 6:28:07 AM
- silverrules
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Jan 2, 2006 6:28:07 AM
Jan 2, 2006 7:04:58 AM
Jan 2, 2006 7:08:01 AM
Jan 2, 2006 7:31:59 AM
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silverrules said:
Road and Track reported 997S does 0 to 60mph in 3.9S and from rumors we have seen 997TT will be 3.7S. If 997TT #'s hold true, I dont see a huge imporvemnt over 997S. Am I missing something?
Wonder what is 0 to 60mph for 997S with X51 package?
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JimFlat6 said:
Try comparing 125mph to 170mph times.
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FSU-997S said:
Isn't the TT number a factory published number, and the street number will be less?
Jan 2, 2006 6:10:00 PM
Jan 2, 2006 7:44:10 PM
Jan 2, 2006 8:18:36 PM
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silverrules said:
Road and Track reported 997S does 0 to 60mph in 3.9S and from rumors we have seen 997TT will be 3.7S. If 997TT #'s hold true, I dont see a huge imporvemnt over 997S. Am I missing something?
Wonder what is 0 to 60mph for 997S with X51 package?
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edz61 said:
Road & track did 0-60 in 3.9 seconds with the 997S, for those of you that are none believers please check it out for yourselves:
Jan 3, 2006 5:52:50 AM
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edz61 said:
Road & track did 0-60 in 3.9 seconds with the 997S, for those of you that are none believers please check it out for yourselves:
If I am not mistaken, R&T has a long tradition of publishing .... erm, "sporty" 0 - 60 mph acceleration times.
If I were a cynic, I'd probably say that they seem to help sell auto mags in the USA.
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OCEAN said:
Juat pick up one of these for your 997S
http://www.andale.com/stores/sf_home.jsp?mode=1&sfUrl=turbosoundfxstore
Jan 3, 2006 8:31:38 PM
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silverrules said:
Looks like this touched some member's nerve comparing the timing of our beloved car to the upcoming TT. There is no reason to get personal and believe me if I want the sound of the turbo, I will buy one and add it to my collections. The only reason I posted this is to see if anybody else had thought about the same issue. Juts imagine you buy the upcoming turbo and your neighbor tells you that Road and Track report shows 997S is only 0.2 second slower than your Turbo and ask you how did you justify spending this much more on a turbo. It's probably better to resolve these concerns now than later but hey it's your money and you can do what you want with it. Either way, Turbo or non Turbo enjoy the ride
Jan 4, 2006 5:39:06 AM
Jan 4, 2006 11:37:19 AM
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silverrules said:
What matters are 60-125 mph figures, where your 997S will be left in the dust, wondering what the hell just happened.
Jan 4, 2006 2:38:14 PM
Jan 4, 2006 3:36:33 PM
Jan 4, 2006 6:34:31 PM
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69bossnine said:
Crash, you nailed it. 0-60 in these high-power cars is extremely traction and clutch-clamping-power limited, and it's a returded teen-age kid's streetlight-to-streetlight measuring stick.
Silverrules, the reason R&T was able to pound a 3.9 0-60 run was a combination of big fat tires, a mind-bendingly high-rpm-clutch-and-driveline-abusing clutch drop (that you wouldn't be able to repeat often without something in the driveline going up in an explosion of glory), and the fact that the motor in a 911 sits over the damn rear wheels.
Comparing 0-60 times on these cars is like discussing whether Carl Lewis or Michael Johnson is faster to the 5-foot mark....Pretty ridiculous
This is my favorite rant/pet peeve. People so "addicted" to 0-60 times from years of bench-racing with magazines, when they mean so little when you climb up the horsepower ranks and start spinning tires and smoking clutches.
If you're running 0-60 races on the street, then you're just wasting fuel and fatiguing parts to prove nothing, because ANYTHING that's got a set of cojones under the hood spends the first two gears negotiating with it's tires for traction. Except for 911's of course, because they've got that hunk of metal sitting out back keeping things planted. Maybe it's just me, but I get little satisfaction out of winning a race solely on grip. It's kinda like winning a footrace against a guy who's much faster than you, but he tripped... You just wind up looking like the slow-but-lucky guy, and a real goof if you actually gloat about the win.
The 997S vs. 997TT isn't a 0-60 discussion though. Who cares if you can stick with a twin-turbo up to 60 mph, when he proceeds to then leave you like a stumbling Bassett Hound trying to chase a cat, do you take satisfaction that you leapt and almost got his tail before he kicked dust in your face and left you panting??
0-60.... Ughhhh.......The race of ricers....The litmus of slow cars....
Jan 4, 2006 6:45:07 PM
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69bossnine said:
Crash, you nailed it. 0-60 in these high-power cars is extremely traction and clutch-clamping-power limited, and it's a returded teen-age kid's streetlight-to-streetlight measuring stick.
Silverrules, the reason R&T was able to pound a 3.9 0-60 run was a combination of big fat tires, a mind-bendingly high-rpm-clutch-and-driveline-abusing clutch drop (that you wouldn't be able to repeat often without something in the driveline going up in an explosion of glory), and the fact that the motor in a 911 sits over the damn rear wheels.
Comparing 0-60 times on these cars is like discussing whether Carl Lewis or Michael Johnson is faster to the 5-foot mark....Pretty ridiculous
This is my favorite rant/pet peeve. People so "addicted" to 0-60 times from years of bench-racing with magazines, when they mean so little when you climb up the horsepower ranks and start spinning tires and smoking clutches.
If you're running 0-60 races on the street, then you're just wasting fuel and fatiguing parts to prove nothing, because ANYTHING that's got a set of cojones under the hood spends the first two gears negotiating with it's tires for traction. Except for 911's of course, because they've got that hunk of metal sitting out back keeping things planted. Maybe it's just me, but I get little satisfaction out of winning a race solely on grip. It's kinda like winning a footrace against a guy who's much faster than you, but he tripped... You just wind up looking like the slow-but-lucky guy, and a real goof if you actually gloat about the win.
The 997S vs. 997TT isn't a 0-60 discussion though. Who cares if you can stick with a twin-turbo up to 60 mph, when he proceeds to then leave you like a stumbling Bassett Hound trying to chase a cat, do you take satisfaction that you leapt and almost got his tail before he kicked dust in your face and left you panting??
0-60.... Ughhhh.......The race of ricers....The litmus of slow cars....