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bazza said:
what honda most popular for!?
engine blown.
from f1 to everyday car .
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mcdelaug said:
Well, Honda's F1 team is weak, but that really has nothing to do with the reliability of their street cars, which is superb. For 30K less, I'd be more interested in the Cayman. The NSX really needs a power upgrade if it is to regain "supercar" status.
May 26, 2005 7:51:17 PM
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MAVERICK said:
First, the hand-built NSX with its hand-built by one person, titanium connecting rod, aluminum engine is significantly less likely to leak oil or suddenly fail unlike the 987 C7S' engine.Quote:
Says who? Don't forget that to even tap into the NSX's engine you have to wind it out so if they're engine is spending 50% of its life at 75% of redline, I don't know how you can say it's going to be more reliable than the 987's engine. Do you work for JD Power or something?Quote:
Second, the aluminum independent double-wishbone suspension design is supposed to be superior to MacPherson struts.Quote:
You said it yourself - "supposed to be". Compare lap times, lateral G, etc. I guess that either Honda has created a sub-optimal application of double wishbones or Porsche has created a super MacPherson set up because the 987/997 are not "inferior" to the NSX in this regard.Quote:
Third, it is the most reliable supercar in the world by being a Honda and by having a lifespan of 12 years and counting.Quote:
Sorry but the 911's been going on 40 years so Honda has a bit of catching up to do.Quote:
Last, the shift feel is superb, second to the S2000, and it has a spare tire, a 5.0 cu.ft. trunk, and a limited slip differential!
In comparison, the Cayman will have a lower redline, better safety, much better steering feel, superb brakes, likely better luggage capacity, and would be, in case of an accident, easier and cheaper to fix its steel body compared to hand-built aluminum. Also it would likely have better suspension tuning and wheel size/tire composition.Quote:
Don't forget, when Honda launched the Acura division, Ayrton Senna and Alain Prost were their MacLaren drivers and Honda dominated the sport. It's "Precision Crafted Performance" slogan was reflected in the sporty image it was trying to instill and the NSX served as the crown jewel. Since the S2000 was recently canned, I can't believe the NSX will continue to live on in its current form. I suspect that the NSX will be reincarnated with V6 power and electric assist. I think it will be different, expensive, environment friendly and not really a competitor for the 987 or even a 997. My $.02
May 28, 2005 12:10:19 AM
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Jeff (in SF) said:
Says who? Don't forget that to even tap into the NSX's engine you have to wind it out so if they're engine is spending 50% of its life at 75% of redline, I don't know how you can say it's going to be more reliable than the 987's engine. Do you work for JD Power or something?
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Jeff (in SF) said:
You said it yourself - "supposed to be". Compare lap times, lateral G, etc. I guess that either Honda has created a sub-optimal application of double wishbones or Porsche has created a super MacPherson set up because the 987/997 are not "inferior" to the NSX in this regard.
Quote:I love the fact that the 911 has been around for approx. 40 years, but I am sad that 40 years of experience was not enough for Porsche to engineer a highly reliable water-cooled engine for their 986/987.
Jeff (in SF) said:
Sorry but the 911's been going on 40 years so Honda has a bit of catching up to do.
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Jeff (in SF) said:
Since the S2000 was recently canned,
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Moogle said:
NSX interior is DEFINITELY 80s looking, surprisingly, the exterior has aged extremely well (in my opinion) for a cars thats more than 10 years old...
indeed, the competition has not stood still