charliepug I remember you started out with boxster and now finally gotten your 997s black/black? wish I could follow the same route... yes my hard earned $$$. For sure I agree but I only feel that the ingenious marketing scheme of PAG is really sometimes a bit too much in terms of purposefully squeezing more hard earned money from me than they really ought to. They are just so slow in rolling out similar systems like that of SMG or AUDI and it was done on purpose.