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    Apr 21, 2005 12:31:01 PM

    Ron (Houston)M
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    Very Disappointing

    Not that I really care but I saw the new ML yesterday which had a sign of "Official Tennis Tournament" that is going on in Houston and appearently MB is sponsering it.

    The new ML looks smaller than the older model and from the side view it looks 95% like Chrysler Pacifica. the front view looks nicer in the pictures; in person it looks too plasticy. The overall size seemed like BMW X3 very small looking.

    Looks like the MB officials are in the right path to bring the company down completely .

    Apr 21, 2005 1:59:21 PM

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    Re: Very Disappointing

    I dont like the new ML as well. I think they ruined the lines on the windows. The Grill with the squares cut out is ugly as well. I totally agree. Seems like MB is just trying to make it look differently so it will stand out or be on its own, and it is not working for me.

    Apr 21, 2005 1:59:21 PM

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    Re: Very Disappointing

    I dont like the new ML as well. I think they ruined the lines on the windows. The Grill with the squares cut out is ugly as well. I totally agree. Seems like MB is just trying to make it look differently so it will stand out or be on its own, and it is not working for me.

    Apr 22, 2005 10:07:28 AM

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    Re: Very Disappointing

    I wouldn't buy it, but the quality is what you expect from Merc. Its a clear improvement over the last ML, and personally I think it looks good.
    It looks much better than the one it replaces.

    Apr 22, 2005 10:07:28 AM

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    Re: Very Disappointing

    I wouldn't buy it, but the quality is what you expect from Merc. Its a clear improvement over the last ML, and personally I think it looks good.
    It looks much better than the one it replaces.

    Apr 22, 2005 2:56:56 PM

    Ron (Houston)M
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    Re: Very Disappointing

    Quote:
    MSB said:
    ...but the quality is what you expect from Merc.



    Quality remains to be seen on the new ones

    Apr 22, 2005 2:56:56 PM

    Ron (Houston)M
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    Re: Very Disappointing

    Quote:
    MSB said:
    ...but the quality is what you expect from Merc.



    Quality remains to be seen on the new ones

    Apr 22, 2005 5:58:23 PM

    Michael (ex. partyboy)
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    Re: Very Disappointing

    I saw the ML on Geneva Motorshow. I don't like it at all.

    Very ugly interior. Plastic all over and different style between the ventilation openings in the front and next to the rear seats.

    The decklid is rest upon airpressure stilts. looks like a car from 1980.

    Cheap american car quality...

    Apr 22, 2005 5:58:23 PM

    Michael (ex. partyboy)
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    Reply to: Ron (Houston)M

    Re: Very Disappointing

    I saw the ML on Geneva Motorshow. I don't like it at all.

    Very ugly interior. Plastic all over and different style between the ventilation openings in the front and next to the rear seats.

    The decklid is rest upon airpressure stilts. looks like a car from 1980.

    Cheap american car quality...

    Apr 22, 2005 8:09:00 PM

    igzaklee
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    Re: Very Disappointing

    AND, they've *killed* the beloved G-class, officially, too.

    Apr 22, 2005 8:09:00 PM

    igzaklee
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    Re: Very Disappointing

    AND, they've *killed* the beloved G-class, officially, too.

    Apr 24, 2005 12:18:01 PM

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    Re: Very Disappointing

    Quote:
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    AND, they've *killed* the beloved G-class, officially, too.





    ??? The new G-class is coming...officially.

    Apr 24, 2005 12:18:01 PM

    RCA
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    Re: Very Disappointing

    Quote:
    igzaklee said:
    AND, they've *killed* the beloved G-class, officially, too.





    ??? The new G-class is coming...officially.

    Apr 24, 2005 8:44:33 PM

    JimFlat6
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    Reply to: Michael (ex. partyboy)

    Re: Very Disappointing

    Quote:
    Michael (ex. partyboy) said:
    I saw the ML on Geneva Motorshow. I don't like it at all.

    Very ugly interior. Plastic all over and different style between the ventilation openings in the front and next to the rear seats.

    The decklid is rest upon airpressure stilts. looks like a car from 1980.

    Cheap american car quality...



    Its actually cheap German quality.

    The Germans spec'd out the car and its components. They designed it, they specify and buy the parts, so it's the Germans who have chosen whatever tacky and unsubstantial parts are on it.

    You can't blame US car manufacturers for every automotive faux pas, but you can blame Daimler Benz for doing what they do wrong and there is plenty of that on their plate recently.

    Apr 24, 2005 8:44:33 PM

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    Reply to: Michael (ex. partyboy)

    Re: Very Disappointing

    Quote:
    Michael (ex. partyboy) said:
    I saw the ML on Geneva Motorshow. I don't like it at all.

    Very ugly interior. Plastic all over and different style between the ventilation openings in the front and next to the rear seats.

    The decklid is rest upon airpressure stilts. looks like a car from 1980.

    Cheap american car quality...



    Its actually cheap German quality.

    The Germans spec'd out the car and its components. They designed it, they specify and buy the parts, so it's the Germans who have chosen whatever tacky and unsubstantial parts are on it.

    You can't blame US car manufacturers for every automotive faux pas, but you can blame Daimler Benz for doing what they do wrong and there is plenty of that on their plate recently.

    Apr 24, 2005 11:52:36 PM

    vladimir
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    Re: Very Disappointing

    I got the new ML, and i had previous generation of MLS since 98! I like the new ML and it grew in size! Much more space then previous generation, Much better steering, much better brakes, I like it! Great family SUV.

    Apr 24, 2005 11:52:36 PM

    vladimir
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    Re: Very Disappointing

    I got the new ML, and i had previous generation of MLS since 98! I like the new ML and it grew in size! Much more space then previous generation, Much better steering, much better brakes, I like it! Great family SUV.

    Apr 27, 2005 12:42:10 PM

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    Reply to: Ron (Houston)M

    Re: Very Disappointing

    Quote:
    Ron (Houston) said:
    Not that I really care but I saw the new ML yesterday which had a sign of "Official Tennis Tournament" that is going on in Houston and appearently MB is sponsering it.

    The new ML looks smaller than the older model and from the side view it looks 95% like Chrysler Pacifica. the front view looks nicer in the pictures; in person it looks too plasticy. The overall size seemed like BMW X3 very small looking.

    Looks like the MB officials are in the right path to bring the company down completely .

    Andy Roddick once again dominates the clay court @ Westside Tennis Club I went to Mercedes Benz of North Houston and I have to agree the new ML is as hideous (if not more) then the Bimmer X3...Sadly they sold two of them in about 2 and a half hours....

    Apr 27, 2005 12:42:10 PM

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    Reply to: Ron (Houston)M

    Re: Very Disappointing

    Quote:
    Ron (Houston) said:
    Not that I really care but I saw the new ML yesterday which had a sign of "Official Tennis Tournament" that is going on in Houston and appearently MB is sponsering it.

    The new ML looks smaller than the older model and from the side view it looks 95% like Chrysler Pacifica. the front view looks nicer in the pictures; in person it looks too plasticy. The overall size seemed like BMW X3 very small looking.

    Looks like the MB officials are in the right path to bring the company down completely .

    Andy Roddick once again dominates the clay court @ Westside Tennis Club I went to Mercedes Benz of North Houston and I have to agree the new ML is as hideous (if not more) then the Bimmer X3...Sadly they sold two of them in about 2 and a half hours....

    May 3, 2005 5:19:48 AM

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    Reply to: Michael (ex. partyboy)

    Re: Very Disappointing

    Quote:
    Michael (ex. partyboy) said:

    The decklid is rest upon airpressure stilts. looks like a car from 1980.




    It's about time! Benzes from 1980 are some of the best built cars ever made.

    May 3, 2005 5:19:48 AM

    Jeff (in SF)
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    Reply to: Michael (ex. partyboy)

    Re: Very Disappointing

    Quote:
    Michael (ex. partyboy) said:

    The decklid is rest upon airpressure stilts. looks like a car from 1980.




    It's about time! Benzes from 1980 are some of the best built cars ever made.
     
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