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    Nov 29, 2002 12:10:03 PM

    J.Seven
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    W.Rohrl said that Cayenne is faster then 996 Carrera on wet.

    Walter Rohrl, said that "the Cayenne is faster in the wet than the 996 Carrera 2"
    Seems marketing strategy

    Lap times in Nurburgring on dry conditions
    996 Carrera 8.25m
    Cayenne 8.40m
    BMW X5 9.06m

    J.Seven

    Nov 29, 2002 12:33:11 PM

    FutchM
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    Marketing.

    This whole marketing crap is really starting to annoy me.
    The Cayenne is NOT a sports car, end of story.
    If you want a 4 seats sports four door sports car, get an M5!
    Marketing is crap.
    We all know the Boxster's chassis is a gem, why not give 360hp? Marketing...
    We all loved the GT3, why limited production? Marketing...
    Why are we waiting so long for the turbo cab and new GT3? Because otherwise, they would coincide with the launch of that fat piece of... sorry, the Cayenne, again, Marketing.
    Don't get me wrong, I like the Cayenne, it is a highly capable car, but not a sport car. Which exactly what we want!!! Sports cars!!!
    If PAG carries on, they are going to lose a costumer
    I am convinced that the Turbo cab, GT3, 4S cab are all ready just waiting to be presented
    Fanch.

    Nov 29, 2002 12:47:51 PM

    zzbobaA
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    Re: AGREED!

    fanch,
    you are my man! walter roehrl is VERY loyal. or very greedy. but it is definitely not his heart that speaks here IMHO.
    cheers; zz

    Nov 29, 2002 1:32:56 PM

    dedam
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    Walter Rohrl "the first car in my life that I drive and I fe

    "the first car in my life that I drive and I feel scared'' driving the CarreraGT


    Maybe he was driving the Cayenne in the wet instead off the Carrera GT in the dry when he was scared

    Nov 29, 2002 5:14:03 PM

    pierre
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    Re: Marketing.

    In reply to:
    If PAG carries on, they are going to lose a costumer



    Oh, you've never told us you're working as a costumer for PAG!... (just kidding!)

    Greetings,
    --Pierre

    Nov 29, 2002 8:25:07 PM

    william
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    Re: X5 time is 4.6 or 4.4??

    I would assume the Cayenne S and X5 4.6is will have very similar performance figure

    Nov 29, 2002 10:59:40 PM

    RCA
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    Re: W.Rohrl said that Cayenne is faster then 996 Carrera on wet.

    Until he doesn't prove that to me, I don't believe it.

    Due to the excessive weight (and the SUV setup), I bet the Cayenne shows heavy understeer, especially when driven at it's limits. My ML55 is an understeer pro...on wet pavement it is even dangerous because it starts to change very quickly from understeer to slipping. Can't imagine that the Cayenne is much different.

    I'll drive the Cayenne around mid of december (very likey the Turbo) and I try all the tricks on dry and wet pavement. I'm not Walter Roehrl but I guess I'm able to tell if the Cayenne is faster than the 996 C2 in the wet.

    Nov 30, 2002 2:26:09 AM

    Ron (Houston)M
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    Can't wait for your review RC, NT

     
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