Jul 17, 2008 4:23:51 AM
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Jul 17, 2008 5:46:08 AM
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Re: New 991 or special 997mk2 version?
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This looks exactly like a 997 mkII, and its got bolt on fender flares. Cumon: how could this be a 998?!?!?! Don't you think Porsche would put MORE into a 998?
Isn't it quite common, that the very first test mules are done in the body of the current or even an older model?
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BTW gents, we have a sticky thread already!
So we now have to reach at least 2003 posts...
Re: New 991 or special 997mk2 on July 16, 08
I do think it is the 998 because the platform is the same configuartion, and there is no need yet to put on top the new body. You can still use the old body at this stage. My only concern is that the car will be bigger while I allready think the actual 911 is big enough.
Jul 17, 2008 8:28:09 AM
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Jul 17, 2008 8:46:30 AM
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Jul 17, 2008 9:24:09 AM
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Re: New 991 or special 997mk2 version?
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This looks exactly like a 997 mkII, and its got bolt on fender flares. Cumon: how could this be a 998?!?!?! Don't you think Porsche would put MORE into a 998?
It's now about what you eyes see, it's what's underneath that counts. Early tests of a new car is always conducted using the body shell of an existing car. BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Ferrari and everyone else does this as well. This is always done for the very early maiden test when the manufacturer just want to test different configuration of chassis, gearbox, exhaust system suspensions and engine. We'll see 998 test mules with the real body shell at the earliest during the second half of 2009.
Jul 17, 2008 9:49:34 AM
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Re: New 991 or special 997mk2 version?
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This looks exactly like a 997 mkII, and its got bolt on fender flares. Cumon: how could this be a 998?!?!?! Don't you think Porsche would put MORE into a 998?
Hey Mate they are just testing the chassis of the 998 and not the finished product. It seesm the new 998/991 would be a bit wider than the 997. Going back to the size of the 996..996 is bigger than the 997.
Jul 17, 2008 11:04:18 AM
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everybody would have thought that it was some dude with an ugly bodykit...
Some dudes with ugly bodykits don't drive around Nordschleife on test days (track closed to the public)
These days it's simply not possible to drive around NoS without getting spotted by some spy photographers.
Jul 17, 2008 12:07:01 PM
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Jul 17, 2008 12:09:54 PM
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Some dudes with ugly bodykits don't drive around Nordschleife on test days (track closed to the public)
These days it's simply not possible to drive around NoS without getting spotted by some spy photographers.
Ahh, didn't know that it was on a closed day.
And yes, those wheels are nice. Makes you wonder though; why would they show a new wheel design so early? (if it really is a new porsche wheel)
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Jul 17, 2008 12:49:17 PM
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ok, now that this is a sticky post, I can already see a 70pages thread about the 991 model, just like the 997.2 thread !!!!
I love those wheels, also they will be pretty easy to clean !!!
similar
http://www.sportec.ch/page2503.html
Jul 17, 2008 1:12:49 PM
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Re: New 991 or special 997mk2 version?
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Silver Bullet said:
This looks exactly like a 997 mkII, and its got bolt on fender flares. Cumon: how could this be a 998?!?!?! Don't you think Porsche would put MORE into a 998?
Isn't it quite common, that the very first test mules are done in the body of the current or even an older model?
EDIT:
BTW gents, we have a sticky thread already!
So we now have to reach at least 2003 posts...
Yes sir
Jul 18, 2008 5:03:27 PM
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Re: New 991 or special 997mk2 version?
Can somebody see what is happening with the directional (I mean that little light in the front wheelarch)? If it flows with the line of the exended fender, it might tell us something about whether this is a definitive shape or just some camo. It struck me that the panel gap in the rear quarter pane is also present in the flared fender, thus suggesting that it is a shape that will be definitive?
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Jul 19, 2008 11:52:42 AM
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Re: New 991 or special 997mk2 version?
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Can somebody see what is happening with the directional (I mean that little light in the front wheelarch)? If it flows with the line of the exended fender, it might tell us something about whether this is a definitive shape or just some camo. It struck me that the panel gap in the rear quarter pane is also present in the flared fender, thus suggesting that it is a shape that will be definitive?
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Re: New 991 or special 997mk2 version?
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Joost said:
Can somebody see what is happening with the directional (I mean that little light in the front wheelarch)? If it flows with the line of the exended fender, it might tell us something about whether this is a definitive shape or just some camo. It struck me that the panel gap in the rear quarter pane is also present in the flared fender, thus suggesting that it is a shape that will be definitive?
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I personally hope that the 991(998) will have the stance of the 993 but as far as the test mules goes it tells us nothing about the final testing at all, so there's no point in reading to much into it. After all, it's a 997 body shell housing 991 mechanics.
Jul 20, 2008 2:01:05 PM
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Re: New 991 or special 997mk2 version?
Who knows if its another 997.2 version or a 991 on a 997 body, the camo does not point to anything in particular, could be either, but what we can see its that whatever it is, its a base version of either and not GT3 or RS because those brakes are very small (base carrera o boxster size), there is no middle radiator, and the exhausts exit on the sides.
Also the wider wheel arches look like camo add ons to throw people off because the wheels them selves don't look like they are set wider apart needing and filling those wider wheel arches.
So my guess its a 991 carerra mule in very early testing using the 997 shell.
Also the wider wheel arches look like camo add ons to throw people off because the wheels them selves don't look like they are set wider apart needing and filling those wider wheel arches.
So my guess its a 991 carerra mule in very early testing using the 997 shell.
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Who knows if its another 997.2 version or a 991 on a 997 body, the camo does not point to anything in particular, could be either, but what we can see its that whatever it is, its a base version of either and not GT3 or RS because those brakes are very small (base carrera o boxster size), there is no middle radiator, and the exhausts exit on the sides.
Also the wider wheel arches look like camo add ons to throw people off because the wheels them selves don't look like they are set wider apart needing and filling those wider wheel arches.
So my guess its a 991 carerra mule in very early testing using the 997 shell.
I agree.
I bet the exterior design for 991 is still on the board and papers.
Jul 20, 2008 8:42:24 PM
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Carlos from Spain said:
Who knows if its another 997.2 version or a 991 on a 997 body, the camo does not point to anything in particular, could be either, but what we can see its that whatever it is, its a base version of either and not GT3 or RS because those brakes are very small (base carrera o boxster size), there is no middle radiator, and the exhausts exit on the sides.
Also the wider wheel arches look like camo add ons to throw people off because the wheels them selves don't look like they are set wider apart needing and filling those wider wheel arches.
So my guess its a 991 carerra mule in very early testing using the 997 shell.
I bet the exterior design for 991 is still on the board and papers.
Not by any chance at all. When a new car is launched they get working on visions for the next car right away. The 991 is 3-4 years away and by this stage everything is pretty much finalized and prototypes using the shell of an existing car start start rolling out on the roads. 2 years before unveiling is due the production ready models enter the road heavily covered. 1-5 to 1 year before the car i uncovered the car is 100% finalized and is heavily tested in real life situation and scanned for imperfections.
A full sized model of the 991 has already been presented to the CEOs and been given green light. The 911 is Porsche's most important product and obviously the development of a new model is taken very serious to make sure the car is the best it would be.
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