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njw said:
Very impressive. Official Nissan claim with stock car.
Pistonheads link
May 1, 2008 12:58:39 PM
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KresoF1 said:
Till starts of EU sales GT-R Ring time will be lowered to 7.10min...
May 1, 2008 2:47:32 PM
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eclou said:
Yes, a "magic suspension setting" worth almost 10 seconds on the NRing being found after thousands of mile of track testing. The exhaust fumes are so clean as to be able to cure emphysema also, and drinking some of the spent oil reverses aging. A single GTR will be shipped to China to reverse all the excess carbon production from the manufacturing industry.
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eclou said:
Yes, a "magic suspension setting" worth almost 10 seconds on the NRing being found after thousands of mile of track testing. The exhaust fumes are so clean as to be able to cure emphysema also, and drinking some of the spent oil reverses aging. A single GTR will be shipped to China to reverse all the excess carbon production from the manufacturing industry.
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eclou said:
Yes, a "magic suspension setting" worth almost 10 seconds on the NRing being found after thousands of mile of track testing. The exhaust fumes are so clean as to be able to cure emphysema also, and drinking some of the spent oil reverses aging. A single GTR will be shipped to China to reverse all the excess carbon production from the manufacturing industry.
Eclou, I read your sceptism on 6bling, I'm glad you posted here
Do you really think that it is all hype and categorically 7.29s it not going to be achieved when Von Sauma gets to do the Supertest ? Maybe I am a bit naive but the engineering specs on the car DOES seem to add up to this sort of performance IMO
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Tobey, if it is a 7:50 car it is still a performance bargain. I just think this 7:29 is very far fetched and timed correctly to take attention away from the tranny failures that are occurring in low mile cars.
May 1, 2008 6:15:34 PM
May 1, 2008 7:35:06 PM
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nberry said:
They did this on standard tires? If i recall I was excoriated by most if not all this board when I claimed that tires would not make the difference you all claimed. What is your position now?
May 1, 2008 8:29:33 PM
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Tobey, if it is a 7:50 car it is still a performance bargain. I just think this 7:29 is very far fetched and timed correctly to take attention away from the tranny failures that are occurring in low mile cars.
You really do think it is BS don't you ? Have Nissan got a history of doing this sort of thing ? I can't see where your grounds for sceptism are coming from ?
How many trannies have broken, I only read about the one from the tuner ?
May 1, 2008 8:41:39 PM
May 1, 2008 9:12:13 PM
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Carlos from Spain said:
Is this for real?? are some people believing this CGT/GT2/ZondaF neighborhood lap time claimed by Nissan??? seriously or are we being sarcastic here??
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They did this on standard tires? If i recall I was excoriated by most if not all this board when I claimed that tires would not make the difference you all claimed. What is your position now?
My understanding is the the Bridgestone tires on the GT-R were a priniciple part of its development and hundreds of compounds and tread patterns were tested before selecting the final version. It's not a simple off-the-shelf tire. It's a VERY high performance tire with a short lifespan (soft tread), although they are runflats...
May 1, 2008 9:33:10 PM
May 1, 2008 9:39:08 PM
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nberry said:Nevertheless, the 7.29 is somewhat hard to believe. It has never been clear to me as to whether these Ring times are from a stopped start or running start. Or do different manufacturers use different approaches?
May 1, 2008 11:15:12 PM
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Carlos from Spain said:
Exactly, they all use different aproaches because there is no norm, and since Nring lap times have a strong marketing effect nowadays, they are under pressure to release a favorable time. Factory times are nothing more than an infomertial, can you blame them? not really, but what is cuestionable is that people would believe them. Some times more than others... 7:29? thats just plain physics 101
The closest thing to a standarised test is SportAuto and even then you can't compare their lap times outright you have to take into account several factor to be able to take them into perspective for comparison purposes, becuase track conditions and tires due vary from car to car and are independant of the car's actual performace at the ring.
However the effect of a running start vs standing start would not be a factor here because SportAuto uses running starts already, so they can't improve over that aspect.
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Exactly, they all use different aproaches because there is no norm, and since Nring lap times have a strong marketing effect nowadays, they are under pressure to release a favorable time. Factory times are nothing more than an infomertial, can you blame them? not really, but what is cuestionable is that people would believe them. Some times more than others... 7:29? thats just plain physics 101
The closest thing to a standarised test is SportAuto and even then you can't compare their lap times outright you have to take into account several factor to be able to take them into perspective for comparison purposes, becuase track conditions and tires due vary from car to car and are independant of the car's actual performace at the ring.
However the effect of a running start vs standing start would not be a factor here because SportAuto uses running starts already, so they can't improve over that aspect.
If you watch the videos of the time attacks on the NBR I posted (some are from the early 90's) you'll see that they are using the same procedures for many years now.
Also,Nissan is not defying physiscs for the first time.Look at some of the videos I posted.
Their comments about the old Skylines are identical to the comments that are now made about the new GT-R.