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    Re: BMW M3 Supertest in Sport Auto

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    Just_me said:
    if C63 already been tested it cant be much slower. give or take 1-2 seconds. I assume it was tested with R-tires.



    Well... It is. Similar results as RS4...

    Re: BMW M3 Supertest in Sport Auto

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    KresoF1 said:
    Hockenheim 1.14,3min

    Ring 8.05min

    Michelin Pilot Cup+ tires(19")
    280km/h limiter option



    Not bad for a car in that price range

    P.S.: The problem with the M3: the car does not feel as refined as a 997s... So, my personal opinion is: if you have the bucks better go for the 997s

    Re: BMW M3 Supertest in Sport Auto

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    KresoF1 said:


    8.00min and 7.58min, one version is R-Tronic, other manual... Guess which one is faster?



    Is it a re-test done by Sportauto?

    Re: BMW M3 Supertest in Sport Auto

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    KresoF1 said:
    Your bet is the right one!

    There is another interesting thing-R8 is the second car that is faster on the Ring(997 Turbo MY08 is the first one) after some small setup(suspension) changes... Development little bit too fast in both cases?



    Got my new R8 on wednesday, manual and with magnetic ride...pictures to come, no time now...running in it up to 2500km, max 6000rpm

    Re: BMW M3 Supertest in Sport Auto

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    rv997 said:
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    KresoF1 said:
    Your bet is the right one!

    There is another interesting thing-R8 is the second car that is faster on the Ring(997 Turbo MY08 is the first one) after some small setup(suspension) changes... Development little bit too fast in both cases?



    Got my new R8 on wednesday, manual and with magnetic ride...pictures to come, no time now...running in it up to 2500km, max 6000rpm



    Congrats!

    Post pics and your impression about the car.

    Re: BMW M3 Supertest in Sport Auto

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    KresoF1 said:
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    Enzo911 said:
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    8.00min and 7.58min, one version is R-Tronic, other manual... Guess which one is faster?



    AUTOMOVIL, spanish magazine times:

    R8 Manual 1'11'03
    R8 R-tronic1'11'47
    M3 E92 Manual 1'12'36



    Thanks for those numbers! So, it is confirmed from two magazines R8 is indeed faster as manual...



    Apparently Von Horst has difficulty making the most out of sequential type transmissions.


    Re: BMW M3 Supertest in Sport Auto

    Hey Nick!

    You are wrong here... Why? For Spanish magazine driver was local guy and he was also faster with manual.

    Alain Prost(I do belive that you know who he is) also tested both versions of R8 for one Italian magazine and he was also faster with manual. He claime that in some curves R-Tronic actually beeps the throttle little bit too much. So, heel and toe technicque is still the best one(if you know what are you doing...)...

    And with new DSG on horizont we could see the death of sequential manuals(a la F1 or R-Tronic/e.gear) in true sportscars. But, like it or not-good old manual will remain here are true enthusiasts first choice...

    Re: BMW M3 Supertest in Sport Auto

    Manuel already is gone from nearly all Mercedes and BMW models, Ferrari Scud + 599 + Enzo-type halo cars). Not great times if you are a manual enthusiast.

    Re: BMW M3 Supertest in Sport Auto

    Regarding Mercedes you are right but, not regarding BMW: M3, 135i, 123d are only available as manual.

    Re: BMW M3 Supertest in Sport Auto

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    KresoF1 said:
    Hey Nick!

    You are wrong here... Why? For Spanish magazine driver was local guy and he was also faster with manual.

    Alain Prost(I do belive that you know who he is) also tested both versions of R8 for one Italian magazine and he was also faster with manual. He claime that in some curves R-Tronic actually beeps the throttle little bit too much. So, heel and toe technicque is still the best one(if you know what are you doing...)...

    And with new DSG on horizont we could see the death of sequential manuals(a la F1 or R-Tronic/e.gear) in true sportscars. But, like it or not-good old manual will remain here are true enthusiasts first choice...



    Interesting. FWIW, according to Ferrari the F1 is faster than manual in the 430. They claim the 430 was designed (engine/suspension) for the F1. Whether this is marketing bull I do not know but I for one will always opt for anything other than manual or Tip.

     
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