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Jun 7, 2007 1:02:46 PM

Carlos from Spain: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Spain. , Spain; Posts: 21156, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 9, 2003

Porsche track-day event photos

I'd though I'd share a few pictures of the Porsche event I went to yesterday

Our local dealership organised a track-day with 911 and CaymanS and off-road with Cayennes for their friend-customers. I'm lucky we have a dealership that is always doing things like this. You improve your driving, you try out the different models at the limit in the track and see their differences, you meet with friends, etc.

The instructors were great, one of them is a rally driver that compeetes in the Spanish Rally Championship with a rally prepped 997GT3, yes a Porsche GT3 amongst the boring Fiats, VW, etc.

It consited in track sessions with the diferent cars and instructors, lunch, and off-road with Cayennes as well to round up the day.

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Jun 7, 2007 1:03:29 PM

Carlos from Spain: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Spain. , Spain; Posts: 21156, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 9, 2003; Reply to: Carlos from Spain

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Jun 7, 2007 1:04:36 PM

Carlos from Spain: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Spain. , Spain; Posts: 21156, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 9, 2003; Reply to: Carlos from Spain

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on the track

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Jun 7, 2007 1:05:48 PM

Carlos from Spain: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Spain. , Spain; Posts: 21156, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 9, 2003; Reply to: Carlos from Spain

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Off-road through the countryside

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Jun 7, 2007 1:06:35 PM

Carlos from Spain: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Spain. , Spain; Posts: 21156, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 9, 2003; Reply to: Carlos from Spain

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Jun 7, 2007 1:06:56 PM

Carlos from Spain: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Spain. , Spain; Posts: 21156, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 9, 2003; Reply to: Carlos from Spain

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Jun 7, 2007 1:07:35 PM

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Jun 7, 2007 1:08:07 PM

Carlos from Spain: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Spain. , Spain; Posts: 21156, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 9, 2003; Reply to: Carlos from Spain

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obsticle 4x4 small course

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Jun 7, 2007 1:08:39 PM

Carlos from Spain: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Spain. , Spain; Posts: 21156, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 9, 2003; Reply to: Carlos from Spain

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Jun 7, 2007 1:09:01 PM

Carlos from Spain: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Spain. , Spain; Posts: 21156, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 9, 2003; Reply to: Carlos from Spain

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Last one. On the way back home

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Jun 7, 2007 2:10:19 PM

stubenhocker: Pilot; Loc: PDX USA; Posts: 476, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 13, 2005; Reply to: Carlos from Spain

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carlos, thanks for the great pics!

where is the track located? Basque region?

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Jun 7, 2007 2:15:18 PM

jackychan: Newbie; Loc:; Posts: 12, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 25, 2004; Reply to: Carlos from Spain

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Very nice event! Please tell us your driving impressions and handling differences for the awd 997TT, rwd Carrera S, and mid-engined Cayman S. Which car did you enjoy driving most?

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Jun 7, 2007 2:18:38 PM

Carlos from Spain: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Spain. , Spain; Posts: 21156, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 9, 2003; Reply to: stubenhocker

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Vegetation is similar to the Basque region

since its in the north of Spain as well but over to the far west side. Its in a countryside town of Pastoriza, in the province of Lugo, region Galicia.

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Jun 7, 2007 2:32:25 PM

Carlos from Spain: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Spain. , Spain; Posts: 21156, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 9, 2003; Reply to: jackychan

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Very nice event! Please tell us your driving impressions and handling differences for the awd 997TT, rwd Carrera S, and mid-engined Cayman S. Which car did you enjoy driving most?

The 997TT arrived late (the truck that was bringging it over had a mechanical failure on the way) so didn't have a chance to test it, but its such a tight track that the TT power would have been useless anyway. I would have liked to see if I found any difference between the electronic AWD in the TT and the viscous on the Carreras though. The last time I had tested the 997TT on track it was pouring wet with no grip.

The CaymanS was very effective, its was agile and neutral, but it lack power as it was slow coming out the corners. Specifically the lack of torque forced you to keep it in high rev range and some corners it was not posible unless you dropped into 1st which would be to short of a gear. Maybe being mid-engined and having a bit less traction on the rear compared to the 911, the Cayman begs more for a rear diff, I don't know.

The AWD Carrera4S Cabrio was an automatic Tiptronic. The Tip ruined it for the track, the pedal had less feel, shifting was boring. Its was also Cabrio so with the Tip+Cab weight it felt heavy, and combined with the fact that is was AWD on top of it it was sluggish turning into the corners and changing direction. Inspite of the AWD I did manage to spin with PSM off due to being to overly optimistic with the throttle on one of the fastest turns

The Carrera2 was manual RWD PASM. It didn't have as much power as the S but you barely noticed it since its was lighter. This was the most fun car to drive IMO. More than the Cayman and although I don't think it was much faster, it was more "fun" to drive, more character, but this is a totally subjective comment from my personal preferences. From the instructors I know most prefered the 911 to drive, but one of them loved the Cayman's chasis and prefered it.

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Jun 7, 2007 2:49:24 PM

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Denver, CO , United States; Posts: 12588, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 21, 2002; Reply to: Carlos from Spain

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Thanks, Carlos

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Jun 7, 2007 3:34:32 PM

connoisseur: Senior; Loc: Nebraska; Posts: 752, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 30, 2005; Reply to: Grant

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Thank you for the wonderful pictures and driving impressions. A very interesting comparison between the CaymanS and the Carrera2. Thank you again.

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Jun 7, 2007 4:56:28 PM

jackychan: Newbie; Loc:; Posts: 12, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 25, 2004; Reply to: connoisseur

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Gracias Carlos.

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Jun 7, 2007 5:20:10 PM

MKSGR: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 8098, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 17, 2002; Reply to: Carlos from Spain

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The CaymanS was very effective, its was agile and neutral, but it lack power as it was slow coming out the corners. Specifically the lack of torque forced you to keep it in high rev range and some corners it was not posible unless you dropped into 1st which would be to short of a gear. Maybe being mid-engined and having a bit less traction on the rear compared to the 911, the Cayman begs more for a rear diff, I don't know.

This is a perfect summary of the Cayman's strengths and weaknesses!

I drove a Cayman S during a Porsche event last weekend and my summary would be identical to yours. The Cayman is quite an efficient car - which can be a quite disappointing finding for 997 and 997s drivers

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Jun 7, 2007 6:04:47 PM

Alex18_996CC: Rennteam Master; Loc: Madrid , Spain; Posts: 3218, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 13, 2004; Reply to: Carlos from Spain

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Carlos thanks for your pic/report, its always great to read your opinions regarding different models!!

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Jun 8, 2007 4:08:54 AM

Mike S: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Somewhere , Taiwan; Posts: 7720, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 3, 2005; Reply to: Alex18_996CC

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Carlos! I haven't seen pics from you in ages! The event looked like a blast. The off-roading looked like the most fun

Beautiful scenery too

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Jun 8, 2007 8:58:05 AM

easy_rider911: Rennteam VIP; Loc: London , United Kingdom; Posts: 22190, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 8, 2004; Reply to: Mike S

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Fantastic pics and informative report Carlos. Thanks a lot for sharing

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Jun 8, 2007 12:17:57 PM

Carlos from Spain: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Spain. , Spain; Posts: 21156, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 9, 2003; Reply to: easy_rider911

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I'm very glad you guys liked it

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