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Apr 20, 2007 7:49:49 AM

JimFlat6: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Cave , United States; Posts: 8634, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 25, 2004

Schumi's New Car

Schumi goes shopping for a new street car. Does he buy a Ferrari 599? F430CS, Aston? 997TT? Audi R8? or a Veyron?

No, he buys a '67 Ford Cobra

A simple 427 cubic inch 7 litre V8. No ABS, TC, NAV, etc..

Link is in French:
Schumacher buys a Ford

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Apr 20, 2007 8:01:53 AM

Porsche-Jeck: Rennteam Master; Loc: Rheinland , Germany; Posts: 4856, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 27, 2005; Reply to: JimFlat6

Re: Schumi 's New Car

Well, his 1994 F1 championship car was equipped with a Ford engine also

The Cobra is a hell of a car - pure driving pleasure, very raw drive feeling

My former neighbour had one and everytime he fired up the engine in our joint garage I thought the Russians were coming

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Apr 20, 2007 8:15:37 AM

Gnil: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: VD, Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 14193, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 11, 2005; Reply to: Porsche-Jeck

Re: Schumi 's New Car

...and most of the time he is seen driving around in an Alfa 159 station wagon or in the Quattroporte...

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Apr 20, 2007 8:21:34 AM

JimFlat6: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Cave , United States; Posts: 8634, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 25, 2004; Reply to: Porsche-Jeck

Re: Schumi 's New Car

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Well, his 1994 F1 championship car was equipped with a Ford engine also
The Cobra is a hell of a car - pure driving pleasure, very raw drive feeling
My former neighbour had one and everytime he fired up the engine in our joint garage I thought the Russians were coming

They wanted to get there, but they never got to get there

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Apr 20, 2007 9:51:52 AM

easy_rider911: Rennteam VIP; Loc: London , United Kingdom; Posts: 22190, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 8, 2004; Reply to: JimFlat6

Re: Schumi 's New Car

If you put yourself in his shoes for a minute, you'll appreciate that no road car he drives is even a pale shadow of what he has driven on the track.

We think of the difference between a 599 and an Alfa 159 as massive. He doubtless thinks they are both so tame compared to a Ferrari F1 car.

That's what I love about great F1 drivers. Driving on the road for them has nothing to do with racing or driving fast. They drive within speed limits and in a safe controlled manner. They leave the hair-raising stuff for the track.

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Apr 20, 2007 12:26:37 PM

function_analysi: Pilot; Loc: Jeddah, Athens , Greece; Posts: 352, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 19, 2006; Reply to: easy_rider911

Re: Schumi 's New Car

Easy, this doesn't apply to Eddie Irvine, does it? Remember when he was caught by the UK police back in 1994 driving his road legal Ferrari at the speed of light?

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easy_rider911 said:
That's what I love about great F1 drivers. Driving on the road for them has nothing to do with racing or driving fast. They drive within speed limits and in a safe controlled manner. They leave the hair-raising stuff for the track.

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Apr 20, 2007 1:27:21 PM

racerx: Rennteam VIP; Loc: 1985 porsche dealership , Bouvet Island; Posts: 8751, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 27, 2004; Reply to: function_analysi

Re: Schumi 's New Car

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function_analysi said:
Easy, this doesn't apply to Eddie Irvine, does it? Remember when he was caught by the UK police back in 1994 driving his road legal Ferrari at the speed of light?

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easy_rider911 said:
That's what I love about great F1 drivers. Driving on the road for them has nothing to do with racing or driving fast. They drive within speed limits and in a safe controlled manner. They leave the hair-raising stuff for the track.

BS That's just easy being way too politically correct. Or maybe he's too young to have heard all the stories. Prost was known to drive like a nut in rental cars beating them badly often with laffite riding along for laughs. Berger etc. Hell one of the first hosts, bisanangno, filmed himself driving to an f1 event at triple digits in europe. It's like everything nowadays, watered down.

As to shumi, i am sure he has many cars and each one fills a different need. A physically big or large sounding V8 is magical. Mustangs and other 60's muscle cars just sound awesome. It was a unique era, i was a young kid and had rides in some of them back then. The only thing sold today with that sound is the AM V8. There was also an intoxicating smell to those cars.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36MFh4of6lE

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Apr 20, 2007 2:04:38 PM

racerx: Rennteam VIP; Loc: 1985 porsche dealership , Bouvet Island; Posts: 8751, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 27, 2004; Reply to: racerx

Re: Schumi 's New Car

If you really like cars, you gotta like the rawness and beauty of these. No PSM or other crap to interfere in the enjoyment of machinery. A guy with his ability to control a car would appreciate something that he can fling around. A pic from a car show I was at;

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Apr 20, 2007 2:18:48 PM

Futch: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: EU , United Kingdom; Posts: 4759, Gallery; Registered on: May 14, 2002; Reply to: function_analysi

Re: Schumi 's New Car

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function_analysi said:
Easy, this doesn't apply to Eddie Irvine, does it? Remember when he was caught by the UK police back in 1994 driving his road legal Ferrari at the speed of light?

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easy_rider911 said:
That's what I love about great F1 drivers. Driving on the road for them has nothing to do with racing or driving fast. They drive within speed limits and in a safe controlled manner. They leave the hair-raising stuff for the track.

It deosn't apply to any of them.
They all drive like mad, and we only know about the ones that get caught (Prost, Irvine, Button, Trulli, etc...)

I have some juicy stories about MS driving a Maserati QP in Paris! Bonkers!!!

As for an Alfa 159 and a Ferrari 599 being similar cars for MS, I highly doubt that too somehow...

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Apr 20, 2007 4:01:57 PM

easy_rider911: Rennteam VIP; Loc: London , United Kingdom; Posts: 22190, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 8, 2004; Reply to: Futch

Re: Schumi 's New Car

Guys, in the good old days, drivers like Irvine, Prost, Lafitte etc etc enjoyed themselves...I should have made clear that I was talking about today's drivers not the hellraisers from yesteryear!

BTW today's drivers are much more sedate for a reason. A friend of mine is a lawyer specialising in Sports Law. He told me that the contracts that F1 drivers sign nowadays even contain penalty clauses which fine drivers if they receive penalty points on their licence, have any motoring convictions etc etc That's why they behave themselves so much more now. Plus I think sponsors weald a good deal more pressure and clout than before...

I'm not saying that raising hell never happens now...it's just that it's become the exception rather than the norm as was the case in years gone by...

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Apr 20, 2007 6:03:33 PM

MKW: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Palo Alto and North Lake Tahoe , United States; Posts: 2491, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 22, 2002; Reply to: easy_rider911

Re: Schumi 's New Car

Todays' elite athlete's are walking billboards for multiple international corporations .Wide internet exposure means world wide, not national fame now. Get in serious legal/moral trouble and the extra millions they make a year in endorsements are gone. Remember, most have only a 5-10 year peak productive'performance earning period vs 40 years for " regular jobs " so they have to maintain on the surface an artificially calm , robotic public persona - like the British royal family.

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Apr 20, 2007 7:56:47 PM

bondmid003: Pilot; Loc: La Jolla, CA , United States; Posts: 378, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 10, 2006; Reply to: MKW

Re: Schumi 's New Car

An original 427 Cobra can fetch between 500K-600K US. These don't come cheap

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Apr 20, 2007 8:31:11 PM

function_analysi: Pilot; Loc: Jeddah, Athens , Greece; Posts: 352, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 19, 2006; Reply to: easy_rider911

Re: Schumi 's New Car

@Easy
IYourHO, when exactly the good old days died?

@MKW
Are you sure the British Royal Family meets the expectations of your arguments which in anycase are exactly my thoughts.

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easy_rider911 said:
Guys, in the good old days, drivers like Irvine, Prost, Lafitte etc etc enjoyed themselves...I should have made clear that I was talking about today's drivers not the hellraisers from yesteryear!

BTW today's drivers are much more sedate for a reason. A friend of mine is a lawyer specialising in Sports Law. He told me that the contracts that F1 drivers sign nowadays even contain penalty clauses which fine drivers if they receive penalty points on their licence, have any motoring convictions etc etc That's why they behave themselves so much more now. Plus I think sponsors weald a good deal more pressure and clout than before...

I'm not saying that raising hell never happens now...it's just that it's become the exception rather than the norm as was the case in years gone by...

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Apr 20, 2007 8:33:35 PM

MKW: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Palo Alto and North Lake Tahoe , United States; Posts: 2491, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 22, 2002; Reply to: bondmid003

Re: Schumi 's New Car

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bondmid003 said:
An original 427 Cobra can fetch between 500K-600K US. These don't come cheap

Didn't one of Carroll Shelby's personal special 427 Cobras sell for over $2M a couple months ago at auction ?

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Apr 20, 2007 8:35:07 PM

function_analysi: Pilot; Loc: Jeddah, Athens , Greece; Posts: 352, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 19, 2006; Reply to: easy_rider911

Re: Schumi 's New Car

OBTW Easy, have you promoted to a Rennteam VIP? In such a case congrats

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Apr 21, 2007 9:25:35 AM

dhayek: Rennteam Master; Loc: Beirut , Lebanon; Posts: 3839, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 7, 2004; Reply to: MKW

Re: Schumi 's New Car

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MKW said:
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bondmid003 said:
An original 427 Cobra can fetch between 500K-600K US. These don't come cheap

Didn't one of Carroll Shelby's personal special 427 Cobras sell for over $2M a couple months ago at auction ?

2M$?? thats insane

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Apr 21, 2007 10:19:33 AM

easy_rider911: Rennteam VIP; Loc: London , United Kingdom; Posts: 22190, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 8, 2004; Reply to: dhayek

Re: Schumi 's New Car

Thanks function_analysi. It's nice to be congratulated but honestly, I didn't do anything special...

I think it just happens automatically once one passes 3000 posts.

As for when the 'good old days died', I think your question pre-supposes that there is a particular point in time when this happened. However, IMHO, this has been a gradual change happening over a period of many, many years. As such, I couldn't point to a particular point in time...

Not trying to avoid answering your question, just my sincere view FWIW.

Have a great weekend friend

I'm off to Leeds/York in North Yorkshire tomorrow to attend a friend's wedding BUT I'm going to make sure I get to drive for a while in the Yorkshire Dales and the North Yorkshire Moors first

Any excuse to find those twisty roads...

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Apr 22, 2007 1:26:45 AM

bondmid003: Pilot; Loc: La Jolla, CA , United States; Posts: 378, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 10, 2006; Reply to: MKW

Re: Schumi 's New Car

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MKW said:
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bondmid003 said:
An original 427 Cobra can fetch between 500K-600K US. These don't come cheap

Didn't one of Carroll Shelby's personal special 427 Cobras sell for over $2M a couple months ago at auction ?

I wouldn't be surprised, but that was only because it had special value since he owned it

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Apr 22, 2007 4:13:37 AM

MKW: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Palo Alto and North Lake Tahoe , United States; Posts: 2491, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 22, 2002; Reply to: dhayek

Re: Schumi 's New Car

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dhayek said:

2M$?? thats insane

Guess what this all original condition Plymouth ( with police car style hub caps and all ) sold for 3 months ago in Arizona at the RM Auction ? HInt : you can buy an Enzo, Carrera GT, MBZ SLR and a very nice half million dollar day boat for the same money.

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Apr 23, 2007 4:57:47 AM

bondmid003: Pilot; Loc: La Jolla, CA , United States; Posts: 378, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 10, 2006; Reply to: MKW

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MKW said:
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dhayek said:

2M$?? thats insane

Guess what this all original condition Plymouth ( with police car style hub caps and all ) sold for 3 months ago in Arizona at the RM Auction ? HInt : you can buy an Enzo, Carrera GT, MBZ SLR and a very nice half million dollar day boat for the same money.

Isn't that a Hemi 'Cuda?

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Apr 23, 2007 2:22:08 PM

racerx: Rennteam VIP; Loc: 1985 porsche dealership , Bouvet Island; Posts: 8751, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 27, 2004; Reply to: bondmid003

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my neighbors brother owns 3 original cuda's. Those do sound great.

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Apr 23, 2007 3:44:29 PM

MKW: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Palo Alto and North Lake Tahoe , United States; Posts: 2491, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 22, 2002; Reply to: bondmid003

Re: Schumi 's New Car

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bondmid003 said:
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MKW said:
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dhayek said:

2M$?? thats insane

Guess what this all original condition Plymouth ( with police car style hub caps and all ) sold for 3 months ago in Arizona at the RM Auction ? HInt : you can buy an Enzo, Carrera GT, MBZ SLR and a very nice half million dollar day boat for the same money.

Isn't that a Hemi 'Cuda?

Yup, and to most people , it looks like the junk yard paid some teenager to haul it away . Then the kid got a $99 paint job , a loud muffler at Pep Boys auto parts and couldn't afford " nice wheels " as there was no money left over in the $200 budget until his next pay check from the burger place where he works after school !

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Apr 23, 2007 9:13:08 PM

bondmid003: Pilot; Loc: La Jolla, CA , United States; Posts: 378, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 10, 2006; Reply to: MKW

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Thats most likely a 71 Hemi 'Cuda. Only 11 Convertibles were made that year. Don Johnson drives one in the show Nash Bridges and his is just a replica

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Apr 23, 2007 9:41:12 PM

MKW: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Palo Alto and North Lake Tahoe , United States; Posts: 2491, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 22, 2002; Reply to: bondmid003

Re: Schumi 's New Car

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Thats most likely a 71 Hemi 'Cuda. Only 11 Convertibles were made that year. Don Johnson drives one in the show Nash Bridges and his is just a replica

The exact one shown above changed owners for $2.2 million three months ago. 11 of any car with any type of passion associated with it means $$$ 30-40 years later when the pre-teenager is now a copororate titan or self made man. Not sure what will happen in the future , since even the rarest current cars are now built in the hundreds. My long term bet is on the Veyron- 1000 oem HP and all.

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Apr 23, 2007 9:53:21 PM

Porky Tokyo: Senior; Loc: Tokyo, Japan; Posts: 617, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 8, 2005; Reply to: easy_rider911

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Mark Webber drove in France on public roads at 250kmh apparently : )

I actually saw Senna going at a speed that made me feel SCARED on the A4 in west london - he got stopped the same day and had to appear in Staines Court : )

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Apr 24, 2007 2:39:44 PM

harryo2b: Senior; Loc: Formerly Bitburg...Land of Bier, now Oklahoma home of the twister. , United States; Posts: 664, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 24, 2003; Reply to: bondmid003

Re: Schumi 's New Car

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bondmid003 said:
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MKW said:
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bondmid003 said:
An original 427 Cobra can fetch between 500K-600K US. These don't come cheap

Didn't one of Carroll Shelby's personal special 427 Cobras sell for over $2M a couple months ago at auction ?

I wouldn't be surprised, but that was only because it had special value since he owned it

I think you are referring to the Barrett-Jackson auction and the Shelby Supersnake. $5.5 Million.

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Apr 24, 2007 4:22:44 PM

MKW: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Palo Alto and North Lake Tahoe , United States; Posts: 2491, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 22, 2002; Reply to: harryo2b

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I think you are referring to the Barrett-Jackson auction and the Shelby Supersnake. $5.5 Million.

Yes , you are correct. The " 2 Million " number in my head was for the Hemi 'Cuda at the nearby RM auction around the same time.

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Apr 24, 2007 9:23:34 PM

CarreraGtRacer: Veteran; Loc: Houston, TX; Posts: 1181, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 1, 2004; Reply to: MKW

Re: Schumi 's New Car

I'm guessing driving that fast on the track wears Schumi out and thats why he follows the speed limit or perhaps goes even slower

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Apr 24, 2007 10:34:20 PM

bondmid003: Pilot; Loc: La Jolla, CA , United States; Posts: 378, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 10, 2006; Reply to: MKW

Re: Schumi 's New Car

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MKW said:
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bondmid003 said:
Thats most likely a 71 Hemi 'Cuda. Only 11 Convertibles were made that year. Don Johnson drives one in the show Nash Bridges and his is just a replica

The exact one shown above changed owners for $2.2 million three months ago. 11 of any car with any type of passion associated with it means $$$ 30-40 years later when the pre-teenager is now a copororate titan or self made man. Not sure what will happen in the future , since even the rarest current cars are now built in the hundreds. My long term bet is on the Veyron- 1000 oem HP and all.

I agree, muscle cars have a loyal following second only to sports cars. The guy over there running Barret-Jackson is a genius!

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