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    Hello,
    Now that Porsche has announced the 2008 997 with the facelift and direct injection, is there any opinion of the DSG.
    -E

    When did Porsche announce this?

    The latest quote was apparently for MY 09.

    As to DSG, those who have owned Audi's seem to have mixed opinions - it's better than Tiptronic, but not good enough to me a great manual - but that doesn't mean Porsche's will be the same...we will have to wait until someone independent has driven it.

    Re: When did Porsche announce this?

    Actually it is for 2008, the dealer confirmed it. Check the autoweek link:
    http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061226/FREE/61226003/1528
    I have the SMG in my M3 and really like it. I have waited 6 months so far on ordering a C2S just to see if the DSG is coming.

    Re: When did Porsche announce this?

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    emkmd said:
    Actually it is for 2008, the dealer confirmed it. Check the autoweek link:
    http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061226/FREE/61226003/1528
    I have the SMG in my M3 and really like it. I have waited 6 months so far on ordering a C2S just to see if the DSG is coming.



    So are you saying that the 2008 model that will be released around Oct 2007 will be the facelifted one? I was of the opinion that the facelifted version would be actually released in 2008 and not before.

    Re: When did Porsche announce this?

    Yes. I was told that I can order the facelifted car some time in May for a fall delivery.

    Re: When did Porsche announce this?

    Model 2008 is always delevery fall 2007.

    Re: When did Porsche announce this?

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    emkmd said:
    Actually it is for 2008, the dealer confirmed it. Check the autoweek link:
    http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061226/FREE/61226003/1528
    I have the SMG in my M3 and really like it. I have waited 6 months so far on ordering a C2S just to see if the DSG is coming.


    That Autoweek link says Summer of 2008, which means Model Year 2009...

    It also says 4 years after introduction of 997 which means Model Year 2009...

    Re: When did Porsche announce this?

    AFAIK we're getting half of the technical changes this fall, and the other half (plus the cosmetic changes) one year later. This would easily explain the confusion.

    Of course, all this might be pure speculation.

    Re: When did Porsche announce this?

    porsche never announced anything. dont base your buying decisions on upgrade speculations and predicted schedules. Autoweek is not porsche.
    facelift is eminent, but I 'predict' that it is too soon (nothing before MY09), especially with the the introduction of the new targa series last year..

    Re: When did Porsche announce this?

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    The Groom said:
    AFAIK we're getting half of the technical changes this fall, and the other half (plus the cosmetic changes) one year later. This would easily explain the confusion.

    Of course, all this might be pure speculation.



    IMO it would be totally stupid to bring half of the technical changes already this year and the other half one year later.

    But you never know with Porsche...

    Re: When did Porsche announce this?

    I agree it's odd, but it can happen. Sometimes, one cannot afford to wait just because of key component is delayed. It might look bad, but it looks better than holding back the entire deal, or releasing a non-working product just to make the deadline.

    I'll give you two recent examples:

    Was Porsche right to introduce the 987S on time, but with the 3.2L engine from the 986S? or should they have delayed the introduction of the 987 until the 3.4L engine was ready?

    Was Porsche right to introduce the 997 Turbo on time, but with a slushbox? or should they have delayed the introduction of the 997 Turbo until DSG was ready?

    Re: When did Porsche announce this?

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    The Groom said:
    I agree it's odd, but it can happen. Sometimes, one cannot afford to wait just because of key component is delayed. It might look bad, but it looks better than holding back the entire deal, or releasing a non-working product just to make the deadline.

    I'll give you two recent examples:

    Was Porsche right to introduce the 987S on time, but with the 3.2L engine from the 986S? or should they have delayed the introduction of the 987 until the 3.4L engine was ready?

    Was Porsche right to introduce the 997 Turbo on time, but with a slushbox? or should they have delayed the introduction of the 997 Turbo until DSG was ready?



    I agree with the most things you say, but the two examples you gave were introductions of two NEW models. So the question for Porsche was waiting until all things have been developed until the end and have the whole new model delayed or present the new model with some of the old components and to bring the new components shortly after. In case of a new model definetely solution number one is appropiate.

    But we are talking of the 997 Carrera/S here, a model that has already been introduced, that is on the market for not such a long time and that is still selling well. So in THAT case I think it would be rather stupid to introduce new components like PDK, DI-engines, power-increase, facelift, new AWD-system in a salami attack and to obset as many customers as possible.

     
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