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J.Seven said:
...regarding 997TT
This is like 11,2 to 200Kph, not bad.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1670093475416481040&hl=en
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J.Seven said:
...regarding 997TT
This is like 11,2 to 200Kph, not bad.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1670093475416481040&hl=en
No offense but 4 out of 5 big european tuners listed on another thread got 11.6-11.8 for the 0-200, I hardly call that the same level.
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J.Seven said:
...regarding 997TT
This is like 11,2 to 200Kph, not bad.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1670093475416481040&hl=en
No offense but 4 out of 5 big european tuners listed on another thread got 11.6-11.8 for the 0-200, I hardly call that the same level.
Those 4 out of 5 European tuners also don't want the engine to blow up during a hard run on the Autobahn. The closest thing you get to the Autobahn in San Diego is taking it up in a C-130 and letting it freefall to the ground.
which test is indicative of high speed reliability?, please enlighten a San Diegan who rarely goes 300km/h. Thanks.
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J.Seven said:
...regarding 997TT
This is like 11,2 to 200Kph, not bad.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1670093475416481040&hl=en
No offense but 4 out of 5 big european tuners listed on another thread got 11.6-11.8 for the 0-200, I hardly call that the same level.
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aah986 said:
No offense but 4 out of 5 big european tuners listed on another thread got 11.6-11.8 for the 0-200, I hardly call that the same level.
And I would stay with street legal stuff, not because I'm a law loving citizen but because of my own safety.
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J.Seven said:
EVO is showing in another forum how's their 997TT have been developed thrue out the time, you would never see a European tuner making what Todd is making on a forum, at least it shows his behind the product and not afraid of what might happened in the future with their kits.
You got to be very courageous to do what he does on the internet, you can bring alot of new clients to the shop, but you also might loose all of them if one or more custumers start to complain about reliability issues, it can ruin his business in no time. Hope this doesn't happened, Todd seems to be a real Porsche lover and very helpful too.
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First, I don't know EVO or Todd too well, so please don't get me wrong. EVO may be a great Tuner and Todd may be a wonderful enthusiast, I can't say it because I simply don't know.
Second, european Tuners don't get involved in internet "chatting", simply because they're small, occupied with work and to be honest, I can see Reinhold Schmirler (RS-Tuning) crawling under a Turbo but not posting on the internet.
It is all about marketing and advertising, J. and I hope you're not THAT naive to believe that everything what you read about certain products on the internet is true.
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aah986 said:
No offense but 4 out of 5 big european tuners listed on another thread got 11.6-11.8 for the 0-200, I hardly call that the same level.
1. in Germany, we have very tough restrictions about what is street legal and what isn't, in the US you can basically do almost anything what you want to your car with the exception of a few states.
2. the review of the tuned cars has been done by a car magazine with top notch professional equipment.
3. drag strips usually use a very sticky pavement, so the slip is reduced as much as possible
4. different weather conditions
5. different bla bla bla
Bottom line is: unless a test is done AT THE SAME TIME under the SAME conditions, it is almost impossible to compare the results.
Regarding US car tuners regarding Porsche models: it is my experience from the past that they usually buy the experience and/or base software from german Tuners like for example former Lotec. It is also common that a german Tuner sends over one of their experts to assist the US Tuner with adaptation to US laws (german laws are very restrictive, it is possible to squeeze out a few horses for the US market, especially since high speed driving isn't a real issue in the US, also some kits need to be modded to lower US fuel quality in some regions).
So it is very difficult to speak of the "same level" in this matter because it depends on the company, it depends on the products, etc. Right now, most of the US stuff is in a way or another coming from Europe but of course it will change as soon as US Tuners get more experience with the 997 TT. Also, due to the fact that US Tuners have more liberties regarding laws, it is highly possible that we will see much more extreme mods in the US than in Germany for example.
Now a lot of people will probably ask themselves: so what is better? To be honest: I don't have a clue.
If I'd live in the US, I would probably stick with well known Tuners which already have a good reputation and who may even offer a warranty for the tuning, in case the factory warranty doesn't pay for certain damages.
In Europe, I would definetely go with a german Tuner only since this is the only way I can be sure that the engine doesn't blow when driving more than two minutes on the Autobahn at top speed.
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