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RC nothing personal but these "hint hint" things are really bugging me. Why would you refrain from telling us something when the car has already been released to the mags? As far as the Tip being sportier than Manual, according to all who have driven it its not and thats enough for me.
I try to explain it, so everybody understands: our site is based on information offered to us by very nice and friendly people who may not always have the approval to do that. This also includes certain "actions" which may not always happen with approval from "higher up".
If you still don't understand, I suggest you check out the interview we provided for french car magazine Flat6.
Rennteam is not "supported" in any way by Porsche.
Everything we do is just "tolerated" right now and the fact that we may get a hint here or an invitation there, doesn't mean much. This mostly happens because we are customers too, not necessarily because of our involvement with Porsche. Yes, our "power" of influence has grown in the past and with almost 9000 registered members and almost 10 Mio. hits per month, Porsche can't and doesn't ignore us. But if you think that they officially support us in ANY way, you're very very wrong. They don't and on the contrary, I had the pleasure to meet some people over there who would love to see us closed down. But of course Porsche has profited from us too, they read our forums and some of the suggestions have been already used for their products.
Of course they do the same with other (important) internet forums.
I'm not a Porsche employee and none of the moderators or other editors is. Understand now?!
We're not here to unveil secrets but to help people to make the right decisions based on personal experience and rumors we get. And since we don't have any commercial background or sponsors, we can be trusted. No hidden agenda, just fun.But I have to admit that the fun part isn't always easy...speaking of people questioning my credibility. This hurts, honestly. And it doesn't surprise me at all that these aren't longtime users but people who are here for a couple of months only. But still...sad.
Anyway...I go to bed now.
have a good rest 
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JimFlat6 said:
And speaking of "red herrings" and other journalist "peeks from behind the flower pot"...intentional or not so..
At least, in the online media, there has not been a single
"review" or test of a 997TT with Sport Chrono ON and PASM set to Sport. Only veiled inferences, not specific and with no detail. Why? You would think they would demonstrate some critical thinking and analysis. Gimme a link if there is
such a test.
And the differences in lap times quoted for a 8 mile course
between the 997TT manual and the tip is within the margin of error for a skilled driver, and that is with the manual car having the advantage of a LSD. The differences are also substantially way below the gap between the previous 996TT tip versus manual tests.
On a short, highly technical course or autocross or a
very twisty hill climb, the Tip might even do better than the manual even without benefit of a LSD. Since the torque converter is pre loaded, there is no chance of losing any momentum when shifting, it shifts faster than a manual can
and its likely a consistently cleaner faster launch off the starting line. The factory already claims a marginally better 0 to 200kph time, so Why is exploiting ALL of that "not involving enough."
I could understand NOT wanting a 997TT like tiptronic or a PDK in a Morgan, but the TT is already smothered with so many ABC helpers and nannies that no clutch pedal hardly seems like a loss of tradition or any loss of fun.
For this money why not get the most performance for the money.
Genius lurks there I am sure!
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CF said:
Regarding Hurley and Tip: a little riddle from current Germany. Why aren't Tip launch cars available over here? No customer gets Tip before September. Hint hint: some Porsche employees just got their new company car. Another hint hint: almost all drive Tip.
I hear you say that customers of tip cars will receive them in September, mine is coming out of production this Friday, Basalt/Black Tip/SC, I have my Rechnung that just arrived, I have to transfer the funds and after that I will have a factory delivery date either week beginning 25th of June or the next one... So customers will be getting tip cars way before September! Or are you talking for Germany omly, I thought you were talking for the whole of Europe...
Jun 5, 2006 12:34:24 PM
Jun 5, 2006 12:40:46 PM
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CF said:
Let's just enjoy our cars.
Manual is more involving and fun
mmmh...maybe not..i'm faster than Rohrl to change gears..
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CF said:
Let's just enjoy our cars.
Manual is more involving and fun
Jun 5, 2006 4:20:20 PM
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CF said:
Let's just enjoy our cars.
Manual is more involving and fun
mmmh...maybe not..i'm faster than Rohrl to change gears..
even if its true dario ( i honestly doubt),next time you meet a tip tt on a red light ,fake a phonecall,otherwise... wwooooooossshhhhhhh...........
Jun 5, 2006 4:57:58 PM
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CF said:
Let's just enjoy our cars.
Manual is more involving and fun
mmmh...maybe not..i'm faster than Rohrl to change gears..
even if its true dario ( i honestly doubt),next time you meet a tip tt on a red light ,fake a phonecall,otherwise... wwooooooossshhhhhhh...........
HAHAH,no..i have the live call,nothing in my hands..only the shifter and the steering wheel..
the problem is that i'm from 2 years with only automatic cars at home....Jeep Grand Cherokee and Cayenne S,and 3 months ago i run to buy a Golf GTI(manual) to take again the foot with clutch and arm with shifter..and i'm again slow now...
i make a lot of burn out at the traffic light
No use buying a car to learn on if you trash the clutch exiting the parking lot of your dealer.
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But the fate of Tip is far more certain; it is history the day that PDK is released - in as little as a year, perhaps....
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SciFrog said:
Current tip is not substandard, it is a great improvement over the old one. What AUM says is that the current tip is just a precursor for the upcoming PDK, once it is here, no more reason for the tip to exist (PDK will have an auto mode and incorporate all the new technology/gizmos RC has been hinting about).
As an example as posted earlier by AUM..."But the reality of the updated last-gasp slush-box has now been revealed: The King has no clothes." This strikes me as more about his relationship or lack thereof with RC. I ordered my car with a manual...but believe most of the information posted by RC to be truthful...maybe AUM might want to refrain from posts like this where he calls into question RC's credibility and firing around "Tip" descriptives that only serve to undermine the harmony of such a forum. Depending on why one wants the 997tt will determine manual versus tip...it's as simple as that. AUM obviously has made up his mind...running down the other choice doesn't add to the quality of this site..IMHO
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