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svtrader1 said:
Good find. Thanks
Turbo = Fast, but, soulless.
This seems to be the recurring sentiment. Uh oh
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Alan(NJ) said:
"There are three settings for the electronically-controlled springs and dampers; comfort, PASM and Sport. Comfort is surprisingly compliant and deals with seven-out-of-ten road situations. PASM is more direct, lowers the ride height and firms the dampers, while 'Sport' does all the things previously mentioned"
Doesn't sound right to me
May 14, 2006 9:57:27 AM
May 14, 2006 12:06:30 PM
May 14, 2006 3:34:28 PM
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easy_rider911 said:
Sorry to wheel out the girlfriend analogy but a 997 Turbo is like a girlfriend who has a PhD, model looks, cordon bleu chef and most of all is easy to live with. The 'more charismatic' Italian cars are like the temperamental girlfriends that are high maintenance in terms of the effort they require to keep them sweet. It's a no brainer for me!
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easy_rider911 said:
Sorry to wheel out the girlfriend analogy but a 997 Turbo is like a girlfriend who has a PhD, model looks, cordon bleu chef and most of all is easy to live with. The 'more charismatic' Italian cars are like the temperamental girlfriends that are high maintenance in terms of the effort they require to keep them sweet. It's a no brainer for me!
Here is a better analogy. The 997TT is like your mother. Good cook, reliable and dependable. Italians cars are like good looking girl friends. The can't do as well everything mother can do but they provide the passion and excitement that a mother cannot give. A 997TT is like kissing your mother. Italians cars are like kissing a beautiful woman.
Lets face it. The 997TT is very much like all other Porsche's. They are old dependeable shoes that are occasionally resoled, provided with different laces and minor cosmetic changes to distinguish it from the previous shoe. It still is the old shoe.
The GT2-3 would be much more exciting.
May 14, 2006 3:56:40 PM
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easy_rider911 said:
Sorry to wheel out the girlfriend analogy but a 997 Turbo is like a girlfriend who has a PhD, model looks, cordon bleu chef and most of all is easy to live with. The 'more charismatic' Italian cars are like the temperamental girlfriends that are high maintenance in terms of the effort they require to keep them sweet. It's a no brainer for me!
Here is a better analogy. The 997TT is like your mother. Good cook, reliable and dependable. Italians cars are like good looking girl friends. The can't do as well everything mother can do but they provide the passion and excitement that a mother cannot give. A 997TT is like kissing your mother. Italians cars are like kissing a beautiful woman.
Lets face it. The 997TT is very much like all other Porsche's. They are old dependeable shoes that are occasionally resoled, provided with different laces and minor cosmetic changes to distinguish it from the previous shoe. It still is the old shoe.
The GT2-3 would be much more exciting.
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polo said:Quote:
svtrader1 said:
Good find. Thanks
Turbo = Fast, but, soulless.
This seems to be the recurring sentiment. Uh oh
I can't understand why the journalist found only this lame argument on the turbo.
Is it because she does it better, quicker, safer, with less efforts than any other car on the market that "they" call it less exciting or less passionate???
Some will say this car is not passionate enough, but for me
it is the contrary! The technology, reliability, torque, usable horsepower (dry,rain, poor traction road...), stability, quality, discretion, and did i mentioned torque?... makes this car a real marvell of technology. AND this is (way) more than enough for me to call it a passionate car, because first i desire it like no other one and second I don't know any other car (except the 959) that has the riguor and countless hours of development to make it the benchmark in the industry.
Moreover I like creativity and new technology and for that porsche is the only one to offer year after years--- their involment and their innovation in new technology make them leaders in the sports car industry.
And after all, when i shop for a sports car i'm looking for innovation, techology, efficiency, reliability, usable horsepower, relative discretion, TORQUE at any RPMs, safety, excellent handling in cornering, breaking, and price...in the same package (which car come close?) --- and yes the 997 turbo wins heads down compre to competition -- as far as i can remember the 997 turbo is the only car with the porsche 959 that gave such enthusiasm and excitation and desire (993 turbo was close).
I get my kick with innvation technology as well as all the rest i'm mentioning above and it is not a gallardo, F430, mercedes, nor audis... who can give me a package like this. For others they get their kick with a red color, a mozart like sound package, the flashy look, rattles, little innovation and decent performance and they call it passion, for me it isn't passion --
May 14, 2006 5:29:07 PM
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easy_rider911 said:
Sorry to wheel out the girlfriend analogy but a 997 Turbo is like a girlfriend who has a PhD, model looks, cordon bleu chef and most of all is easy to live with. The 'more charismatic' Italian cars are like the temperamental girlfriends that are high maintenance in terms of the effort they require to keep them sweet. It's a no brainer for me!
May 14, 2006 6:13:04 PM
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easy_rider911 said:
Sorry to wheel out the girlfriend analogy but a 997 Turbo is like a girlfriend who has a PhD, model looks, cordon bleu chef and most of all is easy to live with. The 'more charismatic' Italian cars are like the temperamental girlfriends that are high maintenance in terms of the effort they require to keep them sweet. It's a no brainer for me!
Don't most truly affluent guys also simultaneously pay for a wife, mistress and "one-night rentals" anyway....aside from a few periods btwn marriages????
Ultimate analogous trio IMO: S65, 997TT and 599.
May 14, 2006 6:30:57 PM
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nberry said:
Lets face it. The F430 (997TT) is very much like all other Ferrari's (Porsche's) . They are old overpriced (dependeable) shoes that are occasionally resoled, provided with different laces and minor cosmetic changes to distinguish it from the previous shoe. It still is the old shoe.
The Enzo or 599 GTB (GT2) would be much more exciting.
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svtrader1 said:
Good find. Thanks
Turbo = Fast, but, soulless.
This seems to be the recurring sentiment. Uh oh
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polo said:Quote:
svtrader1 said:
Good find. Thanks
Turbo = Fast, but, soulless.
This seems to be the recurring sentiment. Uh oh
I can't understand why the journalist found only this lame argument on the turbo.
Is it because she does it better, quicker, safer, with less efforts than any other car on the market that "they" call it less exciting or less passionate???
Some will say this car is not passionate enough, but for me
it is the contrary! The technology, reliability, torque, usable horsepower (dry,rain, poor traction road...), stability, quality, discretion, and did i mentioned torque?... makes this car a real marvell of technology. AND this is (way) more than enough for me to call it a passionate car, because first i desire it like no other one and second I don't know any other car (except the 959) that has the riguor and countless hours of development to make it the benchmark in the industry.
Moreover I like creativity and new technology and for that porsche is the only one to offer year after years--- their involment and their innovation in new technology make them leaders in the sports car industry.
And after all, when i shop for a sports car i'm looking for innovation, techology, efficiency, reliability, usable horsepower, relative discretion, TORQUE at any RPMs, safety, excellent handling in cornering, breaking, and price...in the same package (which car come close?) --- and yes the 997 turbo wins heads down compre to competition -- as far as i can remember the 997 turbo is the only car with the porsche 959 that gave such enthusiasm and excitation and desire (993 turbo was close).
I get my kick with innvation technology as well as all the rest i'm mentioning above and it is not a gallardo, F430, mercedes, nor audis... who can give me a package like this. For others they get their kick with a red color, a mozart like sound package, the flashy look, rattles, little innovation and decent performance and they call it passion, for me it isn't passion --
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nberry said:
Lets face it. The F430 (997TT) is very much like all other Ferrari's (Porsche's) . They are old overpriced (dependeable) shoes that are occasionally resoled, provided with different laces and minor cosmetic changes to distinguish it from the previous shoe. It still is the old shoe.
The Enzo or 599 GTB (GT2) would be much more exciting.
(See insertions in bold above.) Of course I have never driven the F430, the 997TT, nor the Enzo, 599GTB or 997 GT2-- but that is of little consequence.
Now-- on a scale of 1 - 10-- how ridiculous do I sound??
What would we do without Nberry? I love this board!
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nberry said:
Lets face it. The F430 (997TT) is very much like all other Ferrari's (Porsche's) . They are old overpriced (dependeable) shoes that are occasionally resoled, provided with different laces and minor cosmetic changes to distinguish it from the previous shoe. It still is the old shoe.
The Enzo or 599 GTB (GT2) would be much more exciting.
(See insertions in bold above.) Of course I have never driven the F430, the 997TT, nor the Enzo, 599GTB or 997 GT2-- but that is of little consequence.
Now-- on a scale of 1 - 10-- how ridiculous do I sound??
What would we do without Nberry? I love this board!
Damian, if you have driven the 996TT it is enough to be able to compare it to the 997TT. Most writers agree that the 997TT is a better car but the differences in excitement and passion are slight.
When you buy a 997TT what you are getting is a faster 996TT and that is about it.
May 15, 2006 2:37:28 AM
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polo said:And after all, when i shop for a sports car i'm looking for innovation, techology, efficiency, reliability, usable horsepower, relative discretion, TORQUE at any RPMs, safety, excellent handling in cornering, breaking, and price...