CloseIndeed the car is a 964 with a roll cage fitted and airbags removed, so as safe as a 964 can be i.e. safe enough.
No crash test done to my knowledge no but then again, the chassis of the 964 is not modified in terms of stuctural integrity.
Active safety only comes in the form of ABS which is also good enough. No TC but then again, the power is not huge so it's fine.
It's a solid car which gives you plenty of confidence, in case of a crash a lot of classics wouldn't be as strong.
Futch:
Indeed the car is a 964 with a roll cage fitted and airbags removed, so as safe as a 964 can be i.e. safe enough.
No crash test done to my knowledge no but then again, the chassis of the 964 is not modified in terms of stuctural integrity.
Active safety only comes in the form of ABS which is also good enough. No TC but then again, the power is not huge so it's fine.
It's a solid car which gives you plenty of confidence, in case of a crash a lot of classics wouldn't be as strong.
Thanks, Futch. Enjoy in good health but I guess you are already aware of the risks with classic race/sports cars, so I don't have to worry about you. 
Beautiful car, amazing actually and very stealth (from an envy point of view). 
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S, Cayenne GTS (958), BMW X3 35d (2012), Mini Cooper S Countryman All4
RC:
Futch:
Indeed the car is a 964 with a roll cage fitted and airbags removed, so as safe as a 964 can be i.e. safe enough.
No crash test done to my knowledge no but then again, the chassis of the 964 is not modified in terms of stuctural integrity.
Active safety only comes in the form of ABS which is also good enough. No TC but then again, the power is not huge so it's fine.
It's a solid car which gives you plenty of confidence, in case of a crash a lot of classics wouldn't be as strong.
Thanks, Futch. Enjoy in good health but I guess you are already aware of the risks with classic race/sports cars, so I don't have to worry about you.
Thanks RC. Indeed, this is not my first "classic" car, although the singer is a bit of a wildcat being not classic nor modern, but you're right when it comes to safety and actually, I do feel more confident or safe, not even sure what the correct word could be, behind the wheels of a modern car which I know has been through numerous crashtest etc.
Common sense prevails!
exactly....when I drive vintage cars, i never drive them as i do modern cars.
you just have to be Aware of These things.oine of my main issues when driving my cobra is the thought of Impact into the sidedoors. it's like being hit while driving a motorbike i guess.....
nberry:
I don't believe the car can be licensed in the US for use on public roads without federal mandated safety features.
My car is licensed in the us with far fewer road and safety features.
73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs). Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550 Maranello
John H:
nberry:
I don't believe the car can be licensed in the US for use on public roads without federal mandated safety features.
Can't believe that Rob Dickinson would get that one wrong...
Especially since Singer is located in California, which is the strictest state (and the biggest domestic customer base for a car like this)
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73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs). Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550 Maranello
Some cars were grandfathered. However, if a car is completely restored and rebuilt it is possible ( structural considerations may play a role in determining if they are feasible) they must meet certain Federal minimums. I have not researched the issue and I am merely speculating.
TEE:
on every trip to the US I spot many cars which would not be road worthy in Germany. I think there are many worse cars on the road in the US than a Singer...
In the US, cars are largely state (and even locally) regulated. So, it matters a great deal which area you visit...
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73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550 Maranello
nberry:
Some cars were grandfathered. However, if a car is completely restored and rebuilt it is possible ( structural considerations may play a role in determining if they are feasible) they must meet certain Federal minimums. I have not researched the issue and I am merely speculating.
I think the regulation goes by the chassis year. So if the donor chassis is a 1990 vintage then it has to meet the 1990 standard.
Same principle with the Shelby '1967' vintage NEW roadsters running without cats. THere were no cats back in 1967.
May 2, 2013 9:39:24 PM
Chris Harris feature article on Porsche 911 by Singer Design
Old, new, heartbreakingly expensive, and wonderful...
(2 May 2013)
The trade of updating and improving motorcars is nearly as old as the horseless carriage itself. Given that, it requires a profoundly impressive take on the craft for a so-called “tuner car” to gain the collective attention of the industry.
Jul 25, 2013 1:07:43 AM
Since I'm currently in California, I've jumped at the opportunity to pay Singer a visit, Rob himself received me to guide me and my gf around his workshop. I knew more or less what to expect due to the many reviews I've read about his work, but to see and feel his enthousiasm in real life really was a privilege. Fantastic guy with an even greater vision.
It was the first time I saw a Singer in the flesh, and the fit, finish and choice of materials really is second to none. Everything, literally everything is finished to a higher standard than anything I've every come across in any car.
I haven't taken any pictures as the customer of the car they were building preferred no pictures were taken of his car.
Fantastic guy and a great company, I really hope Singer succeeds in becoming an established value.
Porker:
Since I'm currently in California, I've jumped at the opportunity to pay Singer a visit, Rob himself received me to guide me and my gf around his workshop. I knew more or less what to expect due to the many reviews I've read about his work, but to see and feel his enthousiasm in real life really was a privilege. Fantastic guy with an even greater vision.
It was the first time I saw a Singer in the flesh, and the fit, finish and choice of materials really is second to none. Everything, literally everything is finished to a higher standard than anything I've every come across in any car.
I haven't taken any pictures as the customer of the car they were building preferred no pictures were taken of his car.
Fantastic guy and a great company, I really hope Singer succeeds in becoming an established value.
Sounds great. Good to hear that there are still some true car enthusiasts out there who aren't in just for the money. Thanks for the report.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S (Sept. 2013), Cayenne GTS (958), BMW X3 35d (2013)
http://issuu.com/flat6/docs/couv_issuu272?e=6490106/4973778
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLvNErHq0ic
(funny how he pronounces it, might as well call it 'chanteur' or 'chanteuse'...)
reginos:
I appreciate the reasons for some people finding the Singer interesting, but someone must have a huge amount of disposable income dedicated for cars to spend the price of a fully modern (and loaded) Turbo S on this anachronism. Sorry
To be honest, my cash would go to a Singer before a Turbo S anytime. And I'm sure you'll see a bigger portion of it back come trade-in time!
reginos:
I appreciate the reasons for some people finding the Singer interesting, but someone must have a huge amount of disposable income dedicated for cars to spend the price of a fully modern (and loaded) Turbo S on this anachronism. Sorry
To a great many people the Singer produces more visceral excitement, fun and entertainment than the new Turbo would. I happen to think they look better, sound better, are more rare and are more of an “event” to drive than a new Turbo. If you buy a new Turbo purely as a week-end toy, the Singer would give many a more rewarding experience. Plus it’s plenty quick.
Then again look at my avatar, I'm biased and prefer the looks of the older 911s (I still love the new ones but prefer the old ones). That car was a out and out racecar but it would make a new TurboS look like Kia in anything other than a standing start 0-60.
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