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Jul 23, 2012 11:22:22 AM
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bluewonder
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Re: My Panamera Turbo S is almost ready
many thanks for your impression and pictures!
few days ago i saw a blue panamera gts at my local dealer with these black window surroundings.
prefered it over the black one besides it.
i took some photos but that blue colour is not well cptured on my digital camera
Re: My Panamera Turbo S is almost ready
artur777:
Christian,
great pics and story.
do you have a v-box device to measure acceleration?
I dont doubt that you have outrun all these cars as they are very slow comparing to PTS...
your car is very fast!
I know that it is no big deal to outrun the Audi S7 and RS5 in a Panamera Turbo S but the difference was very noticeable, I've never thought it would be that obvious. This is why I reported it.
No, Racelogic doesn't support a Panamera CAN connection, so I'm using the more primitive Performance Box (which actually works quite well if the external GPS antenna is attached).
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S, BMW X5M, Mercedes C63 AMG Coupe PP/DP, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4
Re: My Panamera Turbo S is almost ready
pxaxh:
OMGG RC, Your Panamera is AMAZING !!!
one of the best looking Panameras i've seen, If not the best !!!
Thank you so much. 
I have to keep up a reputation... 
(just kidding, I just love black on black on cars).
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S, BMW X5M, Mercedes C63 AMG Coupe PP/DP, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4
Re: My Panamera Turbo S is almost ready
d997h:
..what always strikes me is the length of the car...the Pana is just 7 cm / ca. 3 inches longer than a 5 series bmw and still looks so huuuuge in comparison...yes, and: HAPPY DRIVING !
Yes, the Panamera and the new BMW 5 series are almost the same size but the Panamera looks huge.
Not sure why but I think the rear may have something to do with that.
On the other hand, the Panamera looks very low when you stand next to it, almost like a sports car.
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S, BMW X5M, Mercedes C63 AMG Coupe PP/DP, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4
Re: My Panamera Turbo S is almost ready
Mike S:
Christian, that car has made you 10 years younger in terms of specifications chosen
Fantastic looking car. Couldn't have gone to a more deserving person
Thanks, Mike. 
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S, BMW X5M, Mercedes C63 AMG Coupe PP/DP, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4
Re: My Panamera Turbo S is almost ready
RC:
d997h:
..what always strikes me is the length of the car...the Pana is just 7 cm / ca. 3 inches longer than a 5 series bmw and still looks so huuuuge in comparison...yes, and: HAPPY DRIVING !
Yes, the Panamera and the new BMW 5 series are almost the same size but the Panamera looks huge.
Not sure why but I think the rear may have something to do with that.
On the other hand, the Panamera looks very low when you stand next to it, almost like a sports car.
Guess when you park it next to a 5 series station wagon the Panamera looks pretty similar in size. Not to forget though that it is lower and wider than the BMW.
Re: My Panamera Turbo S is almost ready
Wonderbar:
If I calculate correctly, Panamera's ratio of width to height is greater than same ratio in a 991, so Panamera appears very low and "planted" to the ground.
Panamera: 55.8 inches high, 83.2 wide
991: 50.9 inches high, 71.1 inches wide
Interesting, I haven't noticed but indeed, many people are surprised when they see my Panamera in flesh and how "sporty" it actually looks.
What bothers me a little bit though is that some people seem to think that the Panamera is actually a re-badged VW Phaeton or Audi A8, which is not true at all (not even a bit). I don't know where this perception is coming from but no matter how much I argue, I see that grin in their faces and I know exactly that I can't convince them. 
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Something else...the Porsche wireless handset for the PCM integrated phone (bluetooth). It works quite well, it connects extremely fast to the PCM system and what is really impressive is signal strength when using a separate SIM card in the PCM system, very good phone.
A small performance update: The car has only 1600 km, not really perfectly run in yet (it should get to it's full potential between 5000 and 10000 km). After filling up the fuel tank, I did three "calibration" runs with the Performance Box, all three from 0 to 160 kph but without launch control (I don't want to use launch control yet before I pass 3000 km).
The average time was 8.8 seconds, which is nothing really special but considering the low mileage, the full tank and the fact that I didn't use launch control, it is quite OK.
Oh, I also noticed that I was doing these runs in Sport mode instead of Sport Plus mode but I'm not sure this really makes a difference.
Hoping to hit 8 seconds flat when the car is run in and when using launch control and Sport Plus mode.
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S, BMW X5M, Mercedes C63 AMG Coupe PP/DP, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4
Re: My Panamera Turbo S is almost ready
RC:
Something else...the Porsche wireless handset for the PCM integrated phone (bluetooth). It works quite well, it connects extremely fast to the PCM system and what is really impressive is signal strength when using a separate SIM card in the PCM system, very good phone.
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S, BMW X5M, Mercedes C63 AMG Coupe PP/DP, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4
RC - what's the point of this, when your mobile phone connects via bluetooth when you get in the car?
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Re: My Panamera Turbo S is almost ready
Budster:
RC:
Something else...the Porsche wireless handset for the PCM integrated phone (bluetooth). It works quite well, it connects extremely fast to the PCM system and what is really impressive is signal strength when using a separate SIM card in the PCM system, very good phone.
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S, BMW X5M, Mercedes C63 AMG Coupe PP/DP, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4
RC - what's the point of this, when your mobile phone connects via bluetooth when you get in the car?
1. Better reception/call quality
2. Better reception/call quality
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3. Did I mentioned better reception/call quality?
Another advantage: Rear passengers or co-pilot can talk all day long without bothering me (keep in mind that I have a wife and a daughter and they literally sleep with their phone... 
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S, BMW X5M, Mercedes C63 AMG Coupe PP/DP, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4
Re: My Panamera Turbo S is almost ready
RC:The average time was 8.8 seconds, which is nothing really special but considering the low mileage, the full tank and the fact that I didn't use launch control, it is quite OK.
Consider your own weight too. Is it above the EU Regulation weight of 75 kgs? 
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Re: My Panamera Turbo S is almost ready
reginos:
RC:The average time was 8.8 seconds, which is nothing really special but considering the low mileage, the full tank and the fact that I didn't use launch control, it is quite OK.
Consider your own weight too. Is it above the EU Regulation weight of 75 kgs?
I'm afraid I violated EU regulations and my son was with me in the car too. 
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S, BMW X5M, Mercedes C63 AMG Coupe PP/DP, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4
Re: My Panamera Turbo S is almost ready
artur777:
Interesting figure
8 secs for 0-160 means 11,5-12 secs for 0-200
I'm not absurd, I don't think that my Turbo S runs that good, to achieve 11.5 seconds (best I saw was 11.8 seconds in a review) but 12 seconds flat should be possible. Which is slightly better than the 0-200 kph performance of the 997.1 Turbo with Tiptronic.
Everything under 13 seconds is OK for the Panamera Turbo S.
Have I told you about the overboost trick? Not sure how much of a performance gain this provides but I will try it. It should have a substantial benefit in the 200-300 kph range.
Overboost stops after 10 seconds but it is sufficient to reduce throttle only a tiny bit and then fully press it again and the overboost continues for another 10 seconds. I have to train this.
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S, BMW X5M, Mercedes C63 AMG Coupe PP/DP, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4
Re: My Panamera Turbo S is almost ready
RC:Overboost stops after 10 seconds but it is sufficient to reduce throttle only a tiny bit and then fully press it again and the overboost continues for another 10 seconds. I have to train this.
Watch out so you don't void the warranty with your tricks
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Jul 26, 2012 1:02:37 PM
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Agent Provocateur
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Jul 26, 2012 1:09:18 PM
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RC
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Re: My Panamera Turbo S is almost ready
bigbuzuki:
Unless the ops manual advises against this over boost trick, there cannot be any warranty issues, as it is a normal function of the car.
Even launch control can be used as many times as you wish because at some point, if the system senses too high temperatures in the system (PDK, etc.), it reduces power to avoid damage.
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S, BMW X5M, Mercedes C63 AMG Coupe PP/DP, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4
Re: My Panamera Turbo S is almost ready
Christian - I've waited for a while to ask this question whilst you acclimatise yourself with the car and get some mileage on the clock. But I'd be interested to know if you've noticed any changes or improvements in PDK on your PTS compared with your previous Carrera GTS...
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