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Re: 2nd Dino restoration - preparing for the next 40 years.
I wish I'd bought them a decade ago and stashed them away Ferdie. To think I turned down the chance to buy an immaculate, fully restored example 7 years ago for £55k but instead chose to buy a 360 Modena 
I lost £7k on the Modena in 9 months yet the same Dino would now easily sell for £150k 
Re: 2nd Dino restoration - preparing for the next 40 years.
If you want to see even a more crazy price for a Dino :
They are 3 other Dino's on auto scout Switzerland . All the others are around CHF 200K
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Re: 2nd Dino restoration - preparing for the next 40 years.
Gnil:
If you want to see even a more crazy price for a Dino :
They are 3 other Dino's on auto scout Switzerland . All the others are around CHF 200K
GTS's are a lot more expensive than the GT's. A while ago there was a really nice blue Dino GT offered for CHF145k, but because of Iain buying all these Dinos prices have gone up quite a bit 
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Jun 9, 2012 3:43:19 PM
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Re: 2nd Dino restoration - preparing for the next 40 years.
ISUK:
I wish I'd bought them a decade ago and stashed them away Ferdie. To think I turned down the chance to buy an immaculate, fully restored example 7 years ago for £55k but instead chose to buy a 360 Modena
Oh wow that is indeed 
How much did these Dino's you purchased lately set you back if I may ask? I bet more than £50k.. I see replica's ask for £30k 
Jun 9, 2012 4:58:30 PM
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ISUK:
I wish I'd bought them a decade ago and stashed them away Ferdie. To think I turned down the chance to buy an immaculate, fully restored example 7 years ago for £55k but instead chose to buy a 360 Modena
Well,
look at the bright side of life. Some people have lost money on more irrelevant things. 
Jun 13, 2012 6:41:10 PM
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Re: 2nd Dino restoration - preparing for the next 40 years.
Today is the final update from the bodyshop for this car (I'll start another thread for the next car they do for me if people aren't fed up with my Dino scribblings by then 
). It is being collected by my dealer on Friday and they will start work refitting the running gear, engine and interior next week. The seats and door cards should hopefully have left Modena today and be on their way back to the UK now. I went up this morning for a final progress update.
The bodyshop have done a tremendous job with this car. It is absolutely perfect and looks beautiful. Everything lines up flawlessly - doors, gas tank lid, front trunk lid, engine lid and rear trunk lid.
The front grill is amazing. They spent a long, long time ensuring the shape of both the aperture and the grill itself were matched so that the fit was perfect. I wish I'd taken more detailed pics of that.
The lower body areas that are in satin black look superb and follow the original deliniation lines faithfully.
They spent a long time sorting out the trunk lid which did not fit correctly previously and someone had fitted two rubber seals to it to try to seal the gap. It now fits perfectly with it's one original seal. In fact the panel gaps are now so consistent around the car you'd think it had just rolled out of the factory.
Most Dinos have their wheels incorrectly finished in bright silver like more modern cars. The correct original factory finish was a dull gray with a satin laquer but no paint code exists for it (a common problem even with modern Ferrari and Maserati wheels). Fortunately the wheels on this car had never been refurbished so it was possible to find a perfect match to the colour and it is a Fiat metallic grey paint. The satin black centres of the stainless steel hub caps were also repainted and the finished wheels speak for themselves. They are going to look fantastic against the orange paintwork.
The glass fibre undertray has been refinished in satin black and was ready to fit back onto the car this afternoon.
The car was still being built back up when I was there and had still to be cleaned and machine waxed to give it it's final shine. One of the last items they will fit back on are the freshly re-plated chrome bumpers. The finish achieved on these is without doubt better than they would have been when new. Graham kindly held a front corner bumper in place whilst I took a pic to show how good they look.
I literally cannot wait to see the car built back up now If all goes well I will have it back in "as new" condition in 3 weeks time 
I also forgot to mention that they painstakingly sorted out the original silver door membrane sheets by putting them in their oven for a short spell to make them pliable then they carefully refitted them to each door to preserve the originality. I watch one door being done and it really was a difficult and delicate process done with a lot of skill and care to ensure the 40 year old plastic sheet wasn't torn or damaged.
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I van imagine the smile on the guys at the shops face when you pulled up in a 458 in the same classic Rosso Dino color. This is a real labour of love, its been said over and over but its because its true. I keep sroling up and down to watch details from different angles, its stunning the level pf precision and care
Also I think I speak for many, if not all rennteamers when I say that there is no way I could get fed up with the updates and restorations, I wish there were more of them to be honest.
Also I think I speak for many, if not all rennteamers when I say that there is no way I could get fed up with the updates and restorations, I wish there were more of them to be honest.
Re: 2nd Dino restoration - preparing for the next 40 years.
I like these types of threads, as I said earlier a lot of this goes on in the 928 community and it seems the Dino community is trying to catch up, here is another total resto job being done on a Dino (multiple going on right now it seems) with incredible detail in the pics shown. I'm sure Iain will not mind. So if you like this stuff check this out - http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=345174&page=12
Re: 2nd Dino restoration - preparing for the next 40 years.
I don't mind at all Tom. Those guys have made quite a few errors though such as chroming a lot of parts that should be stainless steel and also it would appear they may have machined off the engine number on the face of the block.
Re: 2nd Dino restoration - preparing for the next 40 years.
Yes, but to me, that really makes no difference. There are true time capsules out there probably for every model car, for example a 316 mile 89 928 GT and a 6,000 mile 86 that looked like it just rolled off the line. Very unique pieces. But for all others including these Dino's, they are well used so a future buyer is not buying a time machine, just one that functions as new. So what does it matter if an airbox is chromed vs. black. And I can not believe a car builder would put impressions into a mating surface. With today's tech a gopro clip of the engine impression before machining and after should suffice as some sort of provenance.
It was a nice thread especially the pistons (many such threads in the 928 community). Did I read that you have to re-round your cylinders or no? I just appreciate the craftsmanship that some people possess.
Re: 2nd Dino restoration - preparing for the next 40 years.
Yes, I had to get my block rebored due to wear on two cylinders. It's a sure sign that the oil wasn't changed at the required intervals. The engine number is engraved into part of the block surface that is visible when the heads are back in place. I take your point about them being used cars but when spending the kind of money involved in a good restoration it is sensible not to stray from original finishes as that will certainly impact future value. Unlike the 928 (which has not yet reached desirable classic status) the 246 is worth a lot of money so buyers rightly expect details to be correct if paying top dollar.
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Ironically this link came up on my 928 board this morning - http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/gerard-lopez-car-collection-2012-06-19?imageNo=12 and despite 3 recent sales in the 6 figure neighborhood I have no illusions about the 928 ever becoming a Pebble Beach favorite. That is really only for street cars starting with an F or related to it.
That being said I wouldn't hold on too long as it seems collectables are a whack-a-mole proposition, some are hot then they are not. From my reading, whatever was hot when young poor guys get old and rich is the vehicle(s) that draw the big bucks (I did do a lot of thread reading in years past at fchat about this subject). I would put my money on the 360 CS for the long term. And I still have to believe that there is a steep differential between a complete resto and a garage queen. I hope you do very well and thanks for sharing this here, it is very interesting stuff.
Re: 2nd Dino restoration - preparing for the next 40 years.
Interesting movie about the Dino:
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Re: 2nd Dino restoration - preparing for the next 40 years.
It's been a while since I did an update and things are moving along but more slowly than I'd hoped.
The body was finished 3 weeks ago and collected by my dealer from the bodyshop. Here are pics of the collection.
Ready and waiting to go......
...... out into the sunshine (a rare event here this summer as it has rained almost constantly for 2 months)....
.... and onto the waiting truck.
Jul 6, 2012 1:37:33 PM
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Re: 2nd Dino restoration - preparing for the next 40 years.
Beautiful labour of love ...
I love the old silver on black number plates ... AFAIK cars need to be first registrable in the UK before about 1972 to be old enough to qualify for this to be legal according to the DVLA ...
But some people (illegally) fit them on much newer cars just because they suit their colour scheme etc ...
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