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Jan 10, 2011 12:31:28 PM
- Spyderidol
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Re: 2011 Detroit Auto Show | 'Spectacular' Porsche concept debut
Right ! Let's get down to it!
- I LOVE this car! It is beautiful!! It is quite retro in its looks. I see Ford GT and Ferrari F430 in it...along with tons of Porsche DNA.
- This car is not a LMP
- This car is not a GT2 nor is it a GT3 car.
- It is a racing lab that will compete in the Nurburgring 24H and there is some suggestion that it will be invited (by the ACO) to compete in Le Mans.
- Interesting quote from Autoweek: Called the 918 RSR, this new advanced gasoline-electric-powered coupe closely previews a new series production-based race cars under development at Porsche Motorsport, which is eying a full-fledged factory-backed return to the famed Le Mans 24 hour race in 2012, according to new Porsche chairman, Mathias Mueller.
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The 2012 Le Mans entry (if it happens) will not be with this car, but with a Hybrid LMP1.
Jan 10, 2011 1:23:25 PM
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Jan 10, 2011 1:26:44 PM
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Jan 10, 2011 1:37:02 PM
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Re: 2011 Detroit Auto Show | 'Spectacular' Porsche concept debut
My only hope that on upcoming 911,front lights not will be the same as on 918 
Because I think a front that we see on this 918 is very similar to upcoming 911....
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Jan 10, 2011 3:10:47 PM
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Re: 2011 Detroit Auto Show | 'Spectacular' Porsche concept debut
me too. It gives me some new things to think about
And i just have some said feelings when i see all those new technologies.
My Gt3 is already old staff. It's nice and makes people dream but the progression of new generation, goes to fast for me.
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I don't get a racecar with leather interior. Even if it IS a showcar, it still doesn't go... Neither fish nor fowl. If it's going to race, have a cage, nomex etc. Take off the silly camera mirrors etc... I want to see something that is going to go from Cabo Hall straight to Sebring. If it's a 918 coupe for the street, take out the flywheel in the passenger seat, lose the huge wing and put an order sheet and cheque drop-box next to it.
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Re: 2011 Detroit Auto Show | 'Spectacular' Porsche concept debut
As a "racing lab" and design excercise this is tres cool. Some thoughts and questions:
1. I think I read somewhere that brake generated hybrid power is only an interim step--a bridge if you will--to the far more promising all battery power. Any comments, more info?
2. I'm wild for the design, and would love to see it on a series of street going Porsches that are available in the 200 to 250K range. But then what to do with the massive flywheel in the passenger side? I'd like to see the design in a conventional powered car, at least for now.
So put me down in the "WILDLY EXCITED/A BIT BEWILDERED" category.
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Mithras:
I don't get a racecar with leather interior. Even if it IS a showcar, it still doesn't go... Neither fish nor fowl. If it's going to race, have a cage, nomex etc. Take off the silly camera mirrors etc... I want to see something that is going to go from Cabo Hall straight to Sebring. If it's a 918 coupe for the street, take out the flywheel in the passenger seat, lose the huge wing and put an order sheet and cheque drop-box next to it.
Mithras,
Maybe this is due to the fact that it is a Design Lab; they tried to make a step for the development of the 918 spyder, and also for the race version.
It's easier to make a road-going interior and later change that to bare racing lay-out than it is to do it the other way round.
Also, this way you can write off the development cost over two separate projects ;-)
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Porker:
Fantastic! I'm very happy with their new found focus on racing, last year the Hybrid, this year this, next year Le Mans maybe. Back to the good old days!
Wouldn't you think though that, if there really was a new focus on racing, this car would have been conceived in the racing department and not in the styling studio? 
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fritz:
Porker:
Fantastic! I'm very happy with their new found focus on racing, last year the Hybrid, this year this, next year Le Mans maybe. Back to the good old days!
Wouldn't you think though that, if there really was a new focus on racing, this car would have been conceived in the racing department and not in the styling studio?
I am really interested in the details of the new product strategy that positions the 918 based coupe above the 991. Would have been nice if Porsche had published some details on this topic together with this debut...
Re: 2011 Detroit Auto Show | 'Spectacular' Porsche concept debut
I love the car. So good looking. And I can see the possibility of a full new range . ( RSR, Spyder, Coupe , hybrid, conventional )
Hybrid technology is now moving fast.... next 991 will offer it, I wonder if there will also be a GT3 version ?
Having engines in the front wheels will also change and open whole new doors for putting the power on the street at precise moments...... just imagine what the PMS linked to these small engines will be able to do and how suspensions and tractions around corners will be able to be monitored.....
Porsche is showing the future and is ahead of the competition 
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Jan 10, 2011 5:28:26 PM
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Jan 10, 2011 5:28:55 PM
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Re: 2011 Detroit Auto Show | 'Spectacular' Porsche concept debut
Wonderbar:
1. I think I read somewhere that brake generated hybrid power is only an interim step--a bridge if you will--to the far more promising all battery power. Any comments, more info?
Actually the flywheel system is considered better for racing (and especially endurance racing) Something to do with the huge amounts of charge and discharge cycles in a motor race. Also - the flywheel system recharges at a much quicker rate.
Re: 2011 Detroit Auto Show | 'Spectacular' Porsche concept debut
fritz:
Porker:
Fantastic! I'm very happy with their new found focus on racing, last year the Hybrid, this year this, next year Le Mans maybe. Back to the good old days!
Wouldn't you think though that, if there really was a new focus on racing, this car would have been conceived in the racing department and not in the styling studio?
What makes you think Porsche Motorsport didn't develop this racing version? I agree the 918 Spyder Concept was a styling studio effort, but this evolution we see here is clearly Porsche Motorsport, no?
Agreed, it's still a showcar, so stuff like the seat are still more style than substance, but once it goes racing it'll be a pure Motorsport effort, don't you think? 
and the technology behind it sounds very promising. Well done porsche 
Re: 2011 Detroit Auto Show | 'Spectacular' Porsche concept debut
Porker:
What makes you think Porsche Motorsport didn't develop this racing version? I agree the 918 Spyder Concept was a styling studio effort, but this evolution we see here is clearly Porsche Motorsport, no?
Agreed, it's still a showcar, so stuff like the seat are still more style than substance, but once it goes racing it'll be a pure Motorsport effort, don't you think?
What we see here is still what we saw in the sketches posted in this thread by Boxster Coupe GTS on 6 January, which are clearly an artist's view of what a racing car should look like, not that of a racing engineer.
To be really competitive, a racing car has to be uncompromising. I doubt that the evolution has begun yet.
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