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    Panamera Diesel 4 wheel drive?

    This year the Panamera diesel will be introduced. The rumor is this will only be a 2 wheel drive version.  Does somebody know why this is?

     


    Re: Panamera Diesel 4 wheel drive?

    JR-550:

    This year the Panamera diesel will be introduced. The rumor is this will only be a 2 wheel drive version.  Does somebody know why this is?

     

     

    Weight, cost, I could find a thousand reasons. It doesn't make sense to offer AWD on the Panamera Diesel, at least this is my opinion (and apparently also Porsche's opinion).

    Get the 4S, you can't go wrong. Unless of course fuel prices are important to you...on a 100+ k car. Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW


    Re: Panamera Diesel 4 wheel drive?

     I could find thousands of reasons, too! But I'm sure if this its true its only politics!


    Re: Panamera Diesel 4 wheel drive?

    Perhaps they cannot install the VW diesel engine with the Porsche AWD system. I suppose the Cayenne, including Diesel, uses a different AWD system to the Panamera.


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    Re: Panamera Diesel 4 wheel drive?

    Technically, it is possible and wouldn't impose much of a problem but apparently there is no market (yet) for that.

    Like Lars said...probably only a marketing decision but very likely based on certain technical/cost factors too.

    Would I buy a Panamera Diesel AWD with 300 HP or less ? Probably not.

    Would I buy a Panamera Diesel AWD with 400 HP or more ? More likely.

    Maybe Porsche just needs to introduce the "right" Diesel engine to the Panamera.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW


    Re: Panamera Diesel 4 wheel drive?

    RC:
    Maybe Porsche just needs to introduce the "right" Diesel engine to the Panamera.

     


    I also think Porsche needs to introduce the "right" Diesel engine for the Cayenne. Smiley


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    Re: Panamera Diesel 4 wheel drive?

    RC:

    Technically, it is possible and wouldn't impose much of a problem but apparently there is no market (yet) for that.

    Like Lars said...probably only a marketing decision but very likely based on certain technical/cost factors too.

    Would I buy a Panamera Diesel AWD with 300 HP or less ? Probably not.

    Would I buy a Panamera Diesel AWD with 400 HP or more ? More likely.

    Maybe Porsche just needs to introduce the "right" Diesel engine to the Panamera.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW


    Would I buy a Panamera Diesel with 300 HP and 300 ft/lbs of torque? Probably not.

    Would I buy a Panamera Diesel with 300 HP and more than 450 ft/lbs of torque? Probably Yes.

    Would I buy a Panamera Diesel with the Q7-V12 (500 HP and 737 ft/lbs of torque)? If I had the money - Most Certainly!


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    Re: Panamera Diesel 4 wheel drive?

    Mithras:
    RC:

    Technically, it is possible and wouldn't impose much of a problem but apparently there is no market (yet) for that.

    Like Lars said...probably only a marketing decision but very likely based on certain technical/cost factors too.

    Would I buy a Panamera Diesel AWD with 300 HP or less ? Probably not.

    Would I buy a Panamera Diesel AWD with 400 HP or more ? More likely.

    Maybe Porsche just needs to introduce the "right" Diesel engine to the Panamera.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW


    Would I buy a Panamera Diesel with 300 HP and 300 ft/lbs of torque? Probably not.

    Would I buy a Panamera Diesel with 300 HP and more than 450 ft/lbs of torque? Probably Yes.

    Would I buy a Panamera Diesel with the Q7-V12 (500 HP and 737 ft/lbs of torque)? If I had the money - Most Certainly!


    Guys, you are getting in the wrong direction. The 4l Audi diesel engine was offerend to Porsche cheaper then the 3l engine. Porsche didn't take it for at least two reasons: the weight on the front axle would be to much,thus making it ver hard to get the Porsche driving feeling (the same reason why BMW don't use the heavy V8 diesel engine in the X6. Second is about fuel consmption. Just ask Q7 4l diesel engine holder about their front tyres.
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    Re: Panamera Diesel 4 wheel drive?

    According to some rumors, Porsche started to develop their own high performance Diesel engine some while ago. Since Porsche is practically owned by VW now, it would only make sense if Porsche uses VW group technology to improve or even completely replace this project. Time will tell but I truly think that we haven't seen the most powerful Diesel in a Porsche yet...by far not.  


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW


     
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