09.12.2010 10:03:09
cayenneturbo:
Turbo S ??
Turbo S should be available latest end of 2011 or early 2012.
Not sure about the GTS though, haven't heard much (or actually anything) about it.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW
BjoernB:
is there a SportExhaust available already for the Cayenne Turbo ?
As far as I remember (haven't had the time to look it up though), a sport exhaust isn't available yet for the Turbo but Porsche seems to be working on one. Rumored availability: spring 2011. Sound is very similar to the Panamera Turbo sport exhaust, with a slightly deeper tone in the lower/mid rev range.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW
It seems to me that GTS is a model that Porsche releases after Facelift and at the close End of the Model Cycle, to push the sales to the maximum possible. Its a special offer (for what you get) in a great package. As Seen on the Cayenne 1 and on the current 997.
So following that strategy, dont expect to see GTS in the next 3-4 years. And than the GTS question will arrise again, why to buy a new Car, when you know that in 2 years the successor will come?!
06.01.2011 14:38:54
07.05.2011 02:59:21
Rich997:
Dealer just told me that Porsche confirmed production of a Cayenne GTS for fall delivery.
Anyone else heard anything ?
Nope, nothing on my part. I just heard that the Turbo S is coming but no date or year.
The GTS would be a logical conclusion but I haven't heard anything so far. This doesn't mean much, Porsche is quite secretive right now because of the various changes and new possible products. I'm trying to get a little bit past that secrecy but it ain't easy. I don't want to put anyones job in jeopardy.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW
15.06.2011 14:26:42
15.06.2011 17:39:43
cayenneturbo:
pjd:
CT S maybe in the end of this year, or beggining 2012
think once you see the light of the future Cayenne Turbo S will be restyled as happened in previous generations?THANKS for the info
Since they already introduce the Panamera Turbo S, i guess the same will happened with the Cayenne (not 100% sure)
The Power Kit (40 hp) for the Cayenne Turbo is no longer available too.
So i`m predikting end this year or 1st quarter 2012... i hope so since i`m very "curious" about this car
As a side note: The Cayenne Turbo Powerkit is available, there was apparently some short period in summer when it wasn't.
Regarding the Cayenne GTS: It is coming, this is 100%. Power output should be in the 420 to 440 hp range. Don't expect any substantial weight reductions vs. the Cayenne S though.
Expected availability is spring 2012, this is all I know.
Not sure about manual but does it really make sense to offer manual in a SUV ? Personally, I doubt it. The Tiptronic has a very capable manual mode but I would rather like to see PDK in the GTS than a manual transmission.
The Cayenne is a very nice daily commuter and/or family truck but this is no sports car and the GTS won't change that. If you want something quick, get the Cayenne Turbo Powerkit. There is no substitute for that, even if the GTS may feel a little bit sportier.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Carrera GTS Cabriolet PDK, BMW X5M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4
If this is a new trend - introducing a GTS mid-cycle - then perhaps it's something they'll do for the 911 too - i.e. a wide-body C2 - even if that's all it was, and even if it wasn't an end-of-cycle "bargain"...
RC - you once mentioned this as something you'd heard about too, but you've remained tight-lipped ever since, despite being asked a couple of times for an update from a couple of us. We'd love to hear an update on this...
Budster:
If this is a new trend - introducing a GTS mid-cycle - then perhaps it's something they'll do for the 911 too - i.e. a wide-body C2 - even if that's all it was, and even if it wasn't an end-of-cycle "bargain"...
RC - you once mentioned this as something you'd heard about too, but you've remained tight-lipped ever since, despite being asked a couple of times for an update from a couple of us. We'd love to hear an update on this...
I'm not sure but I think I already mentioned that Porsche plans a 991 GTS too and apparently not at the end of the lifecycle. This is all I know, sorry.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Carrera GTS Cabriolet PDK, BMW X5M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4
Bitko:
Would be great to replace the 997 GTS with 991 GTS.
The only reason I got a 997 Carrera GTS was the lease deal I got. I really love my Carrera GTS (with the exception of those crappy Pirelli PZero tires) but I actually wanted a 997 Turbo S when I entered the dealership. The money I saved was huge (30000 EUR in downpayment and 300 EUR in monthly lease cost and I am able to end the contract after only 18 months) but I kind of regret it (a little bit). Luckily, I can choose another Porsche in 11 months. I did that because I wanted to leave me a loophole open, just in case the 991 turns out to be much better than I actually knew at that time. The 991 turned out exactly how I expected it, so it is time to take a final decision on my next 3-4 years lease car. Since the 991 doesn't seem to be better in the rear seat department, I will very likely choose the Cayenne Turbo with powerkit instead. It is sad, I know, I love the 911 but I have no choice. No more garage queens for me, I can't afford it.
The 997 Carrera GTS was an excellent offer from Porsche but that doesn't mean I would get now a 991 Carrera GTS. It is very likely that the new 991 Carrera GTS will not be the fantastic offer the 997 Carrera GTS was. Still...the GTS models are the right models for those who don't want to spend extreme money for an extreme car (GT3 or Turbo) but those who still want to get the sportiest setup for their money. Look at the current Panamera GTS, which is an excellent offer for somebody who would be interested in a Panamera 4S. The GTS is the much better deal in my opinion.
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Carrera GTS Cabriolet PDK, BMW X5M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4
Porsche Carrera GTS (2012); Porsche Cayenne Diesel (2012)
Budster:
RC - I've been following your many posts about your next car, and you've explained your decision making in great detail, an clearly the 911 isn't an option.
I just can't help thinking you should forget the nosy neighbors and go for the Panamera instead of the Cayenne, if that's the only (?) reason why you wouldn't take it. You don't seem to be the type of person who would really lose much sleep about a the odd mutter from a couple of people who have nothing better to do..?
The Panamera would surely offer a more spirited driving experience than the equivalent (GTS vs. GTS or Turbo vs. Turbo, and Euro for Euro) Cayenne..?
I agree. I see a Panamera in person properly for the first time and WOW, I loved it, It was the diesel too . The comfort was amazing.
RC, you have the same problem as me, I need the space too but want the utmost performance. Had a look at the Nissan GTR but the leg room was tight in the rear with a tiny window, the son would get fed up with that.
I should be more selfish I suppose. ..
throt
"I didn't do it"
Mmm...can I ask a simple (or perhaps even stupid) question, on the back of these discussions about a 911 not being a "practical" alternative due to space constraints? If one's wife is already driving a family car, e.g. a Cayenne, X5, Q7 or whatever, why would it be impractical and/or selfish to buy a 911 for oneself? Surely, it is not necessary to have two "family cars" in one family - or am I missing something?