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Jan 16, 2010 9:12:12 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59604, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: Whoopsy

Re: BMW M5 (2011): new F10 super saloon scooped

Whoopsy:

Not everyone is a car nut and likes the sound of engine 'noise'. Per RC, more than likely he is keeping the car at least 3k-4k rpm maybe in 2nd gear, those bystanders probably think RC was just 'showing off' his exhaust.

Yes, I always thought of this. I actually enjoy the sound of the M3 a lot, it is the best sounding car in the family for a very long time but not really the right car for inner city driving from various points of view.

Funny: next week my wife is getting the new engine software update which increases exhaust sound. Smiley This update has been available for some time, it was a request from M3 customers who made complaints that BMW tuned down the exhaust sound, especially the "double clutch" sound when downshifting with the first DCT related bugfix. I didn't have time to get this new software update but next week... Smiley

Only when I drive through my neighborhood, I keep the engine rpm very low, so nobody feels provoked. Outside my neighborhood...well... Smiley

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Jan 17, 2010 12:00:46 AM

AlexG: Junior; Loc: London , United Kingdom; Posts: 109, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 19, 2005; Reply to: RC

Re: BMW M5 (2011): new F10 super saloon scooped

Hmmm that engine software update sure sounds interesting.. Will have to take it to the dealer soon!

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Jan 17, 2010 3:04:19 AM

artur777: Senior; Loc: Europe , Russia; Posts: 774, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 8, 2008; Reply to: AlexG

Re: BMW M5 (2011): new F10 super saloon scooped

does this update include smth besides the exhaust sound?

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Jan 17, 2010 5:01:32 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59604, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: artur777

Re: BMW M5 (2011): new F10 super saloon scooped

artur777:

does this update include smth besides the exhaust sound?

Some minor bugfixes too and a minor auto mode improvement. This update improves the double clutch sound when downshifting. It was almost completely removed by the first DCT bugfix (car stalled, engine stopped), only when downshifting from 3rd to 2nd it was still very present. The new update makes the M3 sound like it sounded before the DCT bugfix update.

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Jan 17, 2010 10:00:13 PM

Thoma: Veteran; Loc: Vancouver , Canada; Posts: 855, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 5, 2005; Reply to: RC

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Jan 17, 2010 10:20:59 PM

Targa Tim: Expert; Loc: Vancouver, BC, Canada , Canada; Posts: 1475, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 3, 2005; Reply to: Thoma

Re: BMW M5 (2011): new F10 super saloon scooped

^looks very good.

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Jan 17, 2010 11:22:34 PM

artur777: Senior; Loc: Europe , Russia; Posts: 774, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 8, 2008; Reply to: Targa Tim

Re: BMW M5 (2011): new F10 super saloon scooped

agree

new m5 will be a full blast

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Jan 18, 2010 9:19:59 AM

william: Senior; Loc: New York/Hong Kong , Hong Kong; Posts: 670, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 9, 2002; Reply to: artur777

Re: BMW M5 (2011): new F10 super saloon scooped

Base on all the marketing figures, laptime, design and price. I am sure the M5 will sell very well. I hope they can come up with a quantifiable figure for throttle responsiveness. A figure which to me as important as 0-100. BMW still needs to feed that 1% of the market demand.

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Jan 18, 2010 9:28:28 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59604, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: william

Re: BMW M5 (2011): new F10 super saloon scooped

William, the throttle response on the X6 M testcar I drove was amazing for a turbo charged enigne. Not perfect but I'm pretty sure that further improvements can be reached through proper programming. BMW won't let M5 customers down, I'm pretty sure about it.

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Jan 18, 2010 10:27:03 AM

william: Senior; Loc: New York/Hong Kong , Hong Kong; Posts: 670, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 9, 2002; Reply to: RC

Re: BMW M5 (2011): new F10 super saloon scooped

We will be very happy with our X5M that's for sure.

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Jan 18, 2010 11:16:47 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59604, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: william

Re: BMW M5 (2011): new F10 super saloon scooped

When are you going to get yours, William ?

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Jan 18, 2010 2:29:55 PM

william: Senior; Loc: New York/Hong Kong , Hong Kong; Posts: 670, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 9, 2002; Reply to: RC

Re: BMW M5 (2011): new F10 super saloon scooped

April production, hopefully that's after the facelift with the new transmission.

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Jan 18, 2010 5:27:16 PM

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Canada; Posts: 16151, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 19, 2006; Reply to: william

Re: BMW M5 (2011): new F10 super saloon scooped

RC: time to put //M in front of the Rennteam name now :) Everyone is getting a X5/6M it seems like.

I am putting my order on hold to wait for the new facelift as I am not in a hurry to get one.

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Jan 18, 2010 9:09:14 PM

artur777: Senior; Loc: Europe , Russia; Posts: 774, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 8, 2008; Reply to: Whoopsy

Re: BMW M5 (2011): new F10 super saloon scooped

wait 2-3 months for next Cayenne generaiotion

it will be success as well!!!!!!!!!!

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Feb 17, 2010 6:45:36 AM

Thoma: Veteran; Loc: Vancouver , Canada; Posts: 855, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 5, 2005; Reply to: artur777

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Feb 17, 2010 1:25:49 PM

janus: Veteran; Loc: Croatia; Posts: 1067, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 13, 2004; Reply to: Thoma

Re: BMW M5 (2011): new F10 super saloon scooped

Pretty damn good look on that one!

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Feb 17, 2010 1:48:42 PM

throt: Rennteam VIP; Loc: London , United Kingdom; Posts: 6078, Gallery; Registered on: May 9, 2005; Reply to: janus

Re: BMW M5 (2011): new F10 super saloon scooped

Oh yes, definitely..Current M5 never looked different enough from its little brother's...

Cant wait to see it in the flesh..Anyone know when it will hit the showrooms in the UK?, I was told sometime in 2011...

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Feb 17, 2010 4:04:57 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59604, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: william

Re: BMW M5 (2011): new F10 super saloon scooped

william:

April production, hopefully that's after the facelift with the new transmission.

Forgot to mention: there is no new transmission for the X5/X6 M, both M models keep the current 6-speed transmission. Engine, drivetrain, etc. stay the same too. Only some new options.

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Feb 18, 2010 7:45:42 AM

Lars997: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: South , Germany; Posts: 9448, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 8, 2002; Reply to: RC

Re: BMW M5 (2011): new F10 super saloon scooped

RC:

william:

April production, hopefully that's after the facelift with the new transmission.

Forgot to mention: there is no new transmission for the X5/X6 M, both M models keep the current 6-speed transmission. Engine, drivetrain, etc. stay the same too. Only some new options.

I dont think that the drivetrain needs an update anyway. The current M5 already is a blast!

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Feb 18, 2010 8:19:22 AM

Rossi: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Home , Germany; Posts: 12682, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: throt

Re: BMW M5 (2011): new F10 super saloon scooped

throt:

Oh yes, definitely..Current M5 never looked different enough from its little brother's...

Cant wait to see it in the flesh..Anyone know when it will hit the showrooms in the UK?, I was told sometime in 2011...

I always liked the stealth look of the M5, only visible for the car enthusiast. In fact that's the main thing I don't like at the current AMG cars: all great cars with great engines, but in the looks-departement they've overdone it IMO. Smiley

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Feb 18, 2010 4:45:18 PM

Lars997: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: South , Germany; Posts: 9448, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 8, 2002; Reply to: Rossi

Re: BMW M5 (2011): new F10 super saloon scooped

Rossi:

throt:

Oh yes, definitely..Current M5 never looked different enough from its little brother's...

Cant wait to see it in the flesh..Anyone know when it will hit the showrooms in the UK?, I was told sometime in 2011...

I always liked the stealth look of the M5, only visible for the car enthusiast. In fact that's the main thing I don't like at the current AMG cars: all great cars with great engines, but in the looks-departement they've overdone it IMO.

I underwrite this Smiley Stealth is the strength of the M5

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Mar 7, 2010 10:06:49 PM

throt: Rennteam VIP; Loc: London , United Kingdom; Posts: 6078, Gallery; Registered on: May 9, 2005; Reply to: Lars997

Re: BMW M5 (2011): new F10 super saloon scooped

Anyone have any price update for this monster....??..

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Mar 8, 2010 7:53:12 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59604, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: throt

Re: BMW M5 (2011): new F10 super saloon scooped

Latest rumour I heard was a base price around 100000 EUR.

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Mar 8, 2010 10:10:59 AM

throt: Rennteam VIP; Loc: London , United Kingdom; Posts: 6078, Gallery; Registered on: May 9, 2005; Reply to: RC

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Wow , that would be around 90,000 GBP, that would be up 25,000 GBP on the current V10..

Thanks...

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Mar 8, 2010 10:34:27 AM

easy_rider911: Rennteam VIP; Loc: London , United Kingdom; Posts: 22190, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 8, 2004; Reply to: throt

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There's no way BMW would price it at that level in the UK market. I suspect BMW will sell it for much less in the UK making the UK a very attractive place to buy a M5 for people from the Eurozone.

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Mar 8, 2010 12:55:32 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59604, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: easy_rider911

Re: BMW M5 (2011): new F10 super saloon scooped

The price tag of the "old" M5 was 94700 EUR in Germany.

I heard the UK price will be in the 75000-80000 GBP range.

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Mar 8, 2010 1:47:34 PM

throt: Rennteam VIP; Loc: London , United Kingdom; Posts: 6078, Gallery; Registered on: May 9, 2005; Reply to: RC

Re: BMW M5 (2011): new F10 super saloon scooped

Okay, I thought around 70,000 GBP..

Price/Performance wise the RS5 (at 57,500GBP, correct?) is an absolute bargain then...Having said that we had a discussion a year or so back stating that the RS5 was in M3 category so that pricing would be correct...

However, M5 still my choice....

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Mar 8, 2010 2:16:33 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59604, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: throt

Re: BMW M5 (2011): new F10 super saloon scooped

You can't compare the RS5 to the M5, one is a Coupe, the other one is a sedan.

I also know for a fact that the M5 is going to beat the RS5 performance-wise. Rumored 0-200 kph performance figure for the new M5 is something around 13 seconds. Even the Panamera Turbo can't keep up.

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Mar 8, 2010 2:47:39 PM

Ferdie: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Europe , Germany; Posts: 8234, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 2, 2004; Reply to: throt

Re: BMW M5 (2011): new F10 super saloon scooped

throt:

we had a discussion a year or so back stating that the RS5 was in M3 category so that pricing would be correct...

The RS5 is in M3 territory in terms of price and performance... and size. In terms of acceleration the M5 will certainly be quicker than both.

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Mar 9, 2010 2:11:42 AM

artur777: Senior; Loc: Europe , Russia; Posts: 774, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 8, 2008; Reply to: Ferdie

Re: BMW M5 (2011): new F10 super saloon scooped

curent m5 even will be faster than rs5 in acceleration

next m5 will be faster than 95% of the competition

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