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    Oct 11, 2005 2:29:01 PM

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    Now if I switched cars to my 911 Turbo where would you be?

    And also, FYI - I'll place my money on a 987S on a twisty road vs. any Mercedes except the SLR.

    Debating is cool.



    911 turbo will not leave a 65 behind

    And why is it that "twisty" roads must always come into the equation? It's like saying "Oh um... your pe**s bigger than mine, BUT it's more how you use it that counts", bottom line, bigger is bigger who cares if you know how to use it or not. In urban driving, hardly any of the roads are twisty. So who gives a crap if the 987 might be able to pull away from the 65 on a "twisty" road

    Oct 11, 2005 2:32:00 PM

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    My family has an extensive collection of AMG models, most notably the S65 and SL55 and I don't know how to put this...but it's like having sex with a condom on. Dull, numb, and devoid of any fun




    haha that is a very good point, can't argue there

    in the end, the each one has it's pro's and con's. all i'm saying is neither can be compared to as being better as the other, each is better or worse in different situations

    Oct 11, 2005 2:32:00 PM

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    My family has an extensive collection of AMG models, most notably the S65 and SL55 and I don't know how to put this...but it's like having sex with a condom on. Dull, numb, and devoid of any fun




    haha that is a very good point, can't argue there

    in the end, the each one has it's pro's and con's. all i'm saying is neither can be compared to as being better as the other, each is better or worse in different situations

    Oct 11, 2005 4:07:23 PM

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    My family has an extensive collection of AMG models, most notably the S65 and SL55 and I don't know how to put this...but it's like having sex with a condom on. Dull, numb, and devoid of any fun




    haha that is a very good point, can't argue there

    in the end, the each one has it's pro's and con's. all i'm saying is neither can be compared to as being better as the other, each is better or worse in different situations



    And when it comes down to it, the avatar has remained the same

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    Oct 11, 2005 4:07:23 PM

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    Quote:
    ajcastaneda said:
    My family has an extensive collection of AMG models, most notably the S65 and SL55 and I don't know how to put this...but it's like having sex with a condom on. Dull, numb, and devoid of any fun




    haha that is a very good point, can't argue there

    in the end, the each one has it's pro's and con's. all i'm saying is neither can be compared to as being better as the other, each is better or worse in different situations



    And when it comes down to it, the avatar has remained the same

    I am proud of you.

    Oct 12, 2005 4:55:43 PM

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    Re: Sl facelift & 63Amg infos?????

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    Think the Sl63 will be naturally aspirated, same as ML63.

    ...ironically most porsche drivers would be quicker in one of these as it's easier to drive hard.

    An Sl500 may only have 90% of the performance of the porsche, 95% of the grip and be a bit slower through a slalom due to the weight transfer, but it's much easier exploit nearly all of its abilities than the porsche.

    ...it was 90% of the fun, 150% as comfortable, more forgiving particularly in bad weather and more practical too.

    ...the SL's a better car to drive and you'll still get 90% of the fun down that alpine road.



    With all due respect, I couldn't disagree with you more. Still, you're perfectly entitled to your views.

    Comparing the SL with a 997 is a pointless exercise. They are 2 totally different cars which should be used for totally different purposes and for totally different styles of driving.

    Oct 12, 2005 4:55:43 PM

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    Think the Sl63 will be naturally aspirated, same as ML63.

    ...ironically most porsche drivers would be quicker in one of these as it's easier to drive hard.

    An Sl500 may only have 90% of the performance of the porsche, 95% of the grip and be a bit slower through a slalom due to the weight transfer, but it's much easier exploit nearly all of its abilities than the porsche.

    ...it was 90% of the fun, 150% as comfortable, more forgiving particularly in bad weather and more practical too.

    ...the SL's a better car to drive and you'll still get 90% of the fun down that alpine road.



    With all due respect, I couldn't disagree with you more. Still, you're perfectly entitled to your views.

    Comparing the SL with a 997 is a pointless exercise. They are 2 totally different cars which should be used for totally different purposes and for totally different styles of driving.

    Oct 12, 2005 5:40:43 PM

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    With all due respect to you easyrider, I think you should look at what McumJum gets up to with his cars before you object to his views!


    FYI, he's just upgraded from an S55 V8K to an S65...

    Oct 12, 2005 5:40:43 PM

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    With all due respect to you easyrider, I think you should look at what McumJum gets up to with his cars before you object to his views!


    FYI, he's just upgraded from an S55 V8K to an S65...

    Nov 3, 2005 11:20:48 AM

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    Re: Sl facelift & 63Amg infos?????

    what about styling wise?

    which care (997 or SL55) is a better looking car?

    i live in sydney, and my friend own SL55 and his brother own 997 S. he said the SL turns heads much much more than the porshce.

    and a question for those who live in the states. are SL really a common sight ovr thr? im moving to the states next year and im thinkin of gettin either 997 S cab or the SL55.. definetely dun wanna buy something thats too common.

    thx for the answers

    Nov 3, 2005 11:20:48 AM

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    Re: Sl facelift & 63Amg infos?????

    what about styling wise?

    which care (997 or SL55) is a better looking car?

    i live in sydney, and my friend own SL55 and his brother own 997 S. he said the SL turns heads much much more than the porshce.

    and a question for those who live in the states. are SL really a common sight ovr thr? im moving to the states next year and im thinkin of gettin either 997 S cab or the SL55.. definetely dun wanna buy something thats too common.

    thx for the answers

    Nov 3, 2005 12:55:22 PM

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    Re: Sl facelift & 63Amg infos?????

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    what about styling wise?

    which care (997 or SL55) is a better looking car?

    i live in sydney, and my friend own SL55 and his brother own 997 S. he said the SL turns heads much much more than the porshce.

    and a question for those who live in the states. are SL really a common sight ovr thr? im moving to the states next year and im thinkin of gettin either 997 S cab or the SL55.. definetely dun wanna buy something thats too common.

    thx for the answers



    Why don't you buy what you like , rather than what others might think about your purchase, or what you might look like in it....

    Over here you see as many Sl as Golf...no head turner unless it's an AMG

    Nov 3, 2005 12:55:22 PM

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    Re: Sl facelift & 63Amg infos?????

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    what about styling wise?

    which care (997 or SL55) is a better looking car?

    i live in sydney, and my friend own SL55 and his brother own 997 S. he said the SL turns heads much much more than the porshce.

    and a question for those who live in the states. are SL really a common sight ovr thr? im moving to the states next year and im thinkin of gettin either 997 S cab or the SL55.. definetely dun wanna buy something thats too common.

    thx for the answers



    Why don't you buy what you like , rather than what others might think about your purchase, or what you might look like in it....

    Over here you see as many Sl as Golf...no head turner unless it's an AMG

    Nov 8, 2005 1:11:42 AM

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    Re: Sl facelift & 63Amg infos?????

    Xin,

    I can't speak for all of the States, but here in Southern California it seems that almost every other car is a 2004 to 2005 SL500 or SL55. Porsche's are farily common as well, but I would say for every new 987/997 there are at least 3 new SL's. They are everywhere here.

    Nov 8, 2005 1:11:42 AM

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    Xin,

    I can't speak for all of the States, but here in Southern California it seems that almost every other car is a 2004 to 2005 SL500 or SL55. Porsche's are farily common as well, but I would say for every new 987/997 there are at least 3 new SL's. They are everywhere here.

    Nov 8, 2005 1:32:08 AM

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    Xin,

    I can't speak for all of the States, but here in Southern California it seems that almost every other car is a 2004 to 2005 SL500 or SL55. Porsche's are farily common as well, but I would say for every new 987/997 there are at least 3 new SL's. They are everywhere here.



    Exactly, yesterday driving around I saw 1 SL 600, and atleast 3-4 SL 55 AMGs. (WA state).

    Nov 8, 2005 1:32:08 AM

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    Xin,

    I can't speak for all of the States, but here in Southern California it seems that almost every other car is a 2004 to 2005 SL500 or SL55. Porsche's are farily common as well, but I would say for every new 987/997 there are at least 3 new SL's. They are everywhere here.



    Exactly, yesterday driving around I saw 1 SL 600, and atleast 3-4 SL 55 AMGs. (WA state).

    Nov 8, 2005 2:53:07 PM

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    thx for the info guys, never knew that the SL are such common sight ovr in US.

    i guess im leaning towards the new vantage. hopefully thr'll b some pre-owned am v8 for sale.

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    thx for the info guys, never knew that the SL are such common sight ovr in US.

    i guess im leaning towards the new vantage. hopefully thr'll b some pre-owned am v8 for sale.

    Nov 8, 2005 7:51:02 PM

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    Xin,

    I can't speak for all of the States, but here in Southern California it seems that almost every other car is a 2004 to 2005 SL500 or SL55. Porsche's are farily common as well, but I would say for every new 987/997 there are at least 3 new SL's. They are everywhere here.



    That's probably cause there are far more WOMEN out there. Women here on the East Coast drive the Mercedes SUV - so we don't get a lot of those girlie SLK toys.

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    Xin,

    I can't speak for all of the States, but here in Southern California it seems that almost every other car is a 2004 to 2005 SL500 or SL55. Porsche's are farily common as well, but I would say for every new 987/997 there are at least 3 new SL's. They are everywhere here.



    That's probably cause there are far more WOMEN out there. Women here on the East Coast drive the Mercedes SUV - so we don't get a lot of those girlie SLK toys.

    Nov 9, 2005 12:04:44 AM

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    That's probably cause there are far more WOMEN out there. Women here on the East Coast drive the Mercedes SUV - so we don't get a lot of those girlie SLK toys.



    I think there is a little misunderstanding here ajca, we are talking about SL and not about SLK.SL are the size of a S class, slk are about the size of a C class.

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    That's probably cause there are far more WOMEN out there. Women here on the East Coast drive the Mercedes SUV - so we don't get a lot of those girlie SLK toys.



    I think there is a little misunderstanding here ajca, we are talking about SL and not about SLK.SL are the size of a S class, slk are about the size of a C class.

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    That's probably cause there are far more WOMEN out there. Women here on the East Coast drive the Mercedes SUV - so we don't get a lot of those girlie SLK toys.



    I think there is a little misunderstanding here ajca, we are talking about SL and not about SLK.SL are the size of a S class, slk are about the size of a C class.



    lol Sorry, all Mercedes look the same to me.

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    That's probably cause there are far more WOMEN out there. Women here on the East Coast drive the Mercedes SUV - so we don't get a lot of those girlie SLK toys.



    I think there is a little misunderstanding here ajca, we are talking about SL and not about SLK.SL are the size of a S class, slk are about the size of a C class.



    lol Sorry, all Mercedes look the same to me.

    Nov 9, 2005 9:08:24 PM

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    Well I have a SLK32 and think what you like, but in 2002 it was the fastest production benz ever made and its a hoot to drive. Rocket ship acceleration! 0-140mph in 22 seconds. Sure there are faster cars, but they all cost a bunch more money and as for the SL...just too heavy.

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    Well I have a SLK32 and think what you like, but in 2002 it was the fastest production benz ever made and its a hoot to drive. Rocket ship acceleration! 0-140mph in 22 seconds. Sure there are faster cars, but they all cost a bunch more money and as for the SL...just too heavy.

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    Nov 9, 2005 10:50:09 PM

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    Beware...Porsche may be soon making "Jetta's". What's that gonna do to your image? If thats not a snooze than I don't know what is. Isn't VW going to make the body on the new 4 door Porsche...I mean VW?
     
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