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May 15, 2005 5:54:01 AM
- palenimbus
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May 15, 2005 7:36:43 AM
- Ryan in SD
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May 15, 2005 7:55:07 AM
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Re: Forza Motorsport
I have it and I think it's pretty sweet. Just watching a replay is incredibly enjoyable.
One thing I really like is that while there is talk that the Nurburgring track is not very realistic it is the first game I've seen that will force some real effort into getting a sub 8 minute time, even in a supercar.
I've still having a ton of fun with it, but the new PGR3 screens are already creating new hype. While the inclusion of the F1 LM, Sagaris, F430 and Murcielago mean awesome things for PGR it really gets my hopes up for the next Forza.
One thing I really like is that while there is talk that the Nurburgring track is not very realistic it is the first game I've seen that will force some real effort into getting a sub 8 minute time, even in a supercar.
I've still having a ton of fun with it, but the new PGR3 screens are already creating new hype. While the inclusion of the F1 LM, Sagaris, F430 and Murcielago mean awesome things for PGR it really gets my hopes up for the next Forza.
May 15, 2005 1:19:21 PM
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May 15, 2005 5:01:59 PM
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May 15, 2005 7:41:23 PM
- Ryan in SD
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Re: Forza Motorsport
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GT4 and Forza are arcade like games made to appeal to a broad range of video game players. If you want a simulation, look elsewhere, such as GTR for the PC. And at the end of the day, I they're still all video games.
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I dont know Justin, Ive played lots of simulators and it seems like in GTR no matter how hard or fast you counter steer a spin will ultimatly happen....which is very annoying when you like to drift.
I think Forza is at the best compromise between simulation and arcade. The sound of the CGT is very close for a video game I love listening to that engine! Theres no other racing sim with this kind of accuracy in sound.
...ofcourse nothing beats real driving
May 15, 2005 9:16:49 PM
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Re: Forza Motorsport
Couple notes about GTR:
- all the cars are running racing slicks, which means they give very little warning before breaking loose, unlike a street tire which is more progressive
- both tires and brakes need a few laps to heat up before they work to full potential. You cannot put up a best time on your outlap.
- you need a force feedback wheel (I use a Logitech setup) to play the game properly. controls are too sensitive with a controller
That being said, yes, you will spin in GTR at some point. But I can also catch spins, so you probably just need time to learn the game. Keep playing simulation mode long enough, and you will get it.
Like to drift? That's very difficult to do in real life on racing slicks. In GT4 and Forza, you feel like a hero with God-like car control.
These things are obviously for fun, so one can't say one game is better than the other. But I think GTR is more fun because it requires a lot more concentration and at least tries to be more realistic than other games. I do think Forza is a little more fun than GT4 in terms of the driving element.
At lot of people don't like GTR because they feel it's too hard. One of my friends stopped playing because of it. Games should be fun, so in that sense, there was very little point in it for him.
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- all the cars are running racing slicks, which means they give very little warning before breaking loose, unlike a street tire which is more progressive
- both tires and brakes need a few laps to heat up before they work to full potential. You cannot put up a best time on your outlap.
- you need a force feedback wheel (I use a Logitech setup) to play the game properly. controls are too sensitive with a controller
That being said, yes, you will spin in GTR at some point. But I can also catch spins, so you probably just need time to learn the game. Keep playing simulation mode long enough, and you will get it.
Like to drift? That's very difficult to do in real life on racing slicks. In GT4 and Forza, you feel like a hero with God-like car control.
These things are obviously for fun, so one can't say one game is better than the other. But I think GTR is more fun because it requires a lot more concentration and at least tries to be more realistic than other games. I do think Forza is a little more fun than GT4 in terms of the driving element.
At lot of people don't like GTR because they feel it's too hard. One of my friends stopped playing because of it. Games should be fun, so in that sense, there was very little point in it for him.
- J
Re: Forza Motorsport
one thing i like about the game is how the physics are better than GT4..in that you can't just nail the car in front of you in a corner and bounce off him and make the corner.
one thing i hate about it is that the computer will crash into you from behind...sending you into the wall. The computer is far to agressive @ times & its really annoying because you can be running a nice clean race...and then BAM!! If you did the stuff that they do in a real race, you'd get DQ'd for sure
one thing i hate about it is that the computer will crash into you from behind...sending you into the wall. The computer is far to agressive @ times & its really annoying because you can be running a nice clean race...and then BAM!! If you did the stuff that they do in a real race, you'd get DQ'd for sure
May 16, 2005 12:46:37 AM
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Re: Forza Motorsport
Well that makes more sense but I still think its on the twitchy side even so. Ive put a big go cart with huge slicks in a little slide by using momentum and it practically regained traction by itself...you would think it would be similar then with full sized cars.
Maybe I just gotta tweak the suspension....or maybe the demo version is not as refined.
Maybe I just gotta tweak the suspension....or maybe the demo version is not as refined.
Re: Forza Motorsport
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Jean said:
GT4 still is the king in terms of FF and vehicle physics modeling, but Forza has all the cars that we want to drive...
Have you actually played Forza?? While the car models aren't as good as GT4, the physics in the game are a little more realistic in my opinion
Re: Forza Motorsport
Forza certainly has better tire physics and controller vs controller Forza is better, but if FF is your big concern then GT4 with the Logitech wheel is your best bet.
That said, I have the wheel and Forza still pulled me away from GT4. Hell the demo pulled me away from GT3.(I got it really late)
That said, I have the wheel and Forza still pulled me away from GT4. Hell the demo pulled me away from GT3.(I got it really late)
Re: Forza Motorsport
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Forza certainly has better tire physics and controller vs controller Forza is better, but if FF is your big concern then GT4 with the Logitech wheel is your best bet.
That said, I have the wheel and Forza still pulled me away from GT4. Hell the demo pulled me away from GT3.(I got it really late)
well if you dont have a wheel......then the FF doesn't matter a whole lot
Re: Forza Motorsport
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mav21386 said:
does anyone know the perfect suspension seetings and anti roll settting for the porsche 959?
There's no such thing as perfect suspension or anti-roll bar settings for any car.
There are only best compromises for a given driver on a given track in given weather conditions on a given day.
Re: Forza Motorsport
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fritz said:Quote:
mav21386 said:
does anyone know the perfect suspension seetings and anti roll settting for the porsche 959?
There's no such thing as perfect suspension or anti-roll bar settings for any car.
There are only best compromises for a given driver on a given track in given weather conditions on a given day.
SXXT! I just flipped back to 1st. page, and realised you're talking about suspension settings for a computer game, and not for "real-life" driving!
May 24, 2005 4:43:36 PM
- Modrocket_stereo
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Re: Forza Motorsport
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sdy284 said:Quote:
Jean said:
GT4 still is the king in terms of FF and vehicle physics modeling, but Forza has all the cars that we want to drive...
Have you actually played Forza?? While the car models aren't as good as GT4, the physics in the game are a little more realistic in my opinion
Yes I did play both.
A simple comparison of Nur-Nordschleife reveals how much Sony had put effort on making the physics on GT4 right. There is only 3 second lap time difference between the real car and the GT4 car driven by the same Nissan test driver when measured.
Forza in my opinion is too arcadish.
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