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    Mar 30, 2005 11:33:44 AM

    Sarnico 45
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    Tommorow, late afternoon, I'll pick up my Cayenne Turbo kit.
    This morning I've seen it with all the parties fitted, waiting for the wheel adjustment and the finally test.
    I send you 2 photo of the impressive brake, just before fitting the wheel.
    Last saturday I've try a Turbo with a special exhaust and air filter (+ 32 cv).
    Not so bad, the final are the same of stock model, they change cathalysator (one with larger "cell").
    You earn also 40 kg (not so much consider the total weight of the car).
    You could also choose the noise level (less, medium, hard).
    With medium level you feel no difference inside the car despite outside the difference is clear.
    Not so bad, not so bad.

    Mar 30, 2005 11:34:19 AM

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    Mar 31, 2005 8:58:17 AM

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    Thanks for the nice pictures.
    A little sidenote though: you can't gain 32 HP on the Cayenne Turbo by exchanging the exhaust and airfilters only.
    This also requires an engine software change.
    The maximum power you can get from such a combo should be in the 10-15 HP range, at max., depending on the exhaust/cats manufacturer.

    Mar 31, 2005 10:21:32 AM

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    The "tuner" is the Ebimotors near Como.
    They race into Italian GT championschip with a GT3 RSR, it's a Porsche official maintenance center, so they are quite serious.
    He told me that ther's no chip modifications, only air filter and exaust.
    Probably the exaust (despite is TUV approved) isn't so "regular".

    Mar 31, 2005 10:24:00 AM

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    At 5 pm I'll pick up my car.
    Let You know something after the short test drive.

    Total cost (20% VAT included) 16.150 euro

    Mar 31, 2005 10:33:21 AM

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    Quote:
    Sarnico 45 said:
    At 5 pm I'll pick up my car.
    Let You know something after the short test drive.

    Total cost (20% VAT included) 16.150 euro



    1. no matter how much motorsport a Tuner does, they are NOT officially approved (most of them are actually on Porsche's "black list")
    2. motorsport doesn't mean they have a clue about the Cayenne V8, to my knowledge most Cayenne tuners get their software/hardware from VW/Audi tuners.
    3. 32 HP through an exhaust change is IMPOSSIBLE without an engine software change. This is like putting water in a 1 litre bottle, no matter how fast you put that water in or how large the bottle neck is, it still has 1 litre capacity. Especially on turbo engines, exhaust mods don't do much, on the contrary, they can even lower power due to modified backpressure.

    Apr 1, 2005 7:04:39 AM

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    First impression:
    A MONSTER
    Only few km to test 500 power kit.
    Urban way with trafic around (6.00 pm)
    Throttle esitations: pherhaps is only a subjection but i feel less "dead zone";
    Acceleration: incredibile, real improved.
    Elasticity: not well tested but you feel that something change;
    Brakes: not well tested, everything is new and i don't want ruin pagid and disk:
    Sound: no change;
    Suspension: I one time i've change the winter tire (18" that I will sell cause it's impossible to fit with the new brake) coming back to 20", anterior suspension and control unit of pasm. In my opinion it's better but in a urban way it's really difficult to evalue.
    I will test this week end.
    Kit cost: 12.300 euros + 20% vat
    Working cost : 20 hours at 50 euros par hour + 20% VAT.
    Additional cost: 130 euros + 20% vat for cheking asset.

    Apr 1, 2005 12:06:01 PM

    Sarnico 45
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    Quote:
    RC said:

    3. 32 HP through an exhaust change is IMPOSSIBLE without an engine software change. This is like putting water in a 1 litre bottle, no matter how fast you put that water in or how large the bottle neck is, it still has 1 litre capacity. Especially on turbo engines, exhaust mods don't do much, on the contrary, they can even lower power due to modified backpressure.



    On gemballa site there's a power kit for 997 that provides 23 HP.
    If we consider that 997 engine is a 3.600/3800 cc and CT is 4500 cc with turbocharger probably it's possible gain something similar to 32 HP also cause we change air filter.
    Miltek write that on a S4 you can gain 15 Hp (at the wheel, so more at "engine level").
    But probably are only "commercial advises".

    Apr 1, 2005 12:33:57 PM

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    Quote:
    Sarnico 45 said:
    First impression:
    A MONSTER
    Only few km to test 500 power kit.
    Urban way with trafic around (6.00 pm)
    Throttle esitations: pherhaps is only a subjection but i feel less "dead zone";
    Acceleration: incredibile, real improved.
    Elasticity: not well tested but you feel that something change;
    Brakes: not well tested, everything is new and i don't want ruin pagid and disk:
    Sound: no change;
    Suspension: I one time i've change the winter tire (18" that I will sell cause it's impossible to fit with the new brake) coming back to 20", anterior suspension and control unit of pasm. In my opinion it's better but in a urban way it's really difficult to evalue.
    I will test this week end.
    Kit cost: 12.300 euros + 20% vat
    Working cost : 20 hours at 50 euros par hour + 20% VAT.
    Additional cost: 130 euros + 20% vat for cheking asset.



    Thanks for the update!
     
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