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Larry B said:
Don't I wish!!!!! MSRP (inc. air shipment)was $460K, California Sales Tax was $33K, plus license and gas guzzler tax of about 5K, for $500K more or less purchase price. Sale at $431K less sales expense. So about $80K +/-!!! I thought the CGT was a car I would keep for a long time, otherwise I would have leased the car and that would have reduced the sales tax hit substantially. What did I learn from this rather expensive journey? In the future, do not buy a totally new design vehicle, such as a CGT, or Enzo, or Bugatti Veyron, without first driving it. If I had been able to drive the CGT when in Leipzig, I do not think I would have taken delivery of the car. Based on my earlier Porsche experiences, I couldn't imagine the car being anything but a very driveable automobile.
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Larry B said:
If I had been able to drive the CGT when in Leipzig, I do not think I would have taken delivery of the car.
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poursha said:
Thanks for the update. Too bad it wasn't what you though it would be. Seems like you're not alone...
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Larry B said:
Don't I wish!!!!! MSRP (inc. air shipment)was $460K, California Sales Tax was $33K, plus license and gas guzzler tax of about 5K, for $500K more or less purchase price. Sale at $431K less sales expense. So about $80K +/-!!! I thought the CGT was a car I would keep for a long time, otherwise I would have leased the car and that would have reduced the sales tax hit substantially. What did I learn from this rather expensive journey? In the future, do not buy a totally new design vehicle, such as a CGT, or Enzo, or Bugatti Veyron, without first driving it. If I had been able to drive the CGT when in Leipzig, I do not think I would have taken delivery of the car. Based on my earlier Porsche experiences, I couldn't imagine the car being anything but a very driveable automobile.
Logical point re: driving new model before buying, but I suspect F would calmly hand Enzo at MSRP to a more "grateful" customer if one demanded drive before signing (and probably black-list you for Enzo successor)...and in Enzo's case one could laugh all the way to bank, even if its driving characteristics weren't up to snuff. Ultimately, it's a game of speculation that can make some cars like Enzo at MSRP very cheap to own and drive....and some cars such as CGT more expensive than MSRP would lead one to believe.
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I thought some of you might be interested in the final disposition of my Carrera GT. Earlier posts certainly outlined the issues I had with the car after driving it 4,000 miles. I left the car at Sonnen Motors in Mill Valley three weeks ago for sale. We agreed to make the car available at $435K. The car was sold for $431K, to a local person who was already on the list with Sonnen for a CGT, though production of his car would not take place for 18 months. I think I received a very fair price considering the mileage. It was the most difficult and emotional decision I have ever made around an automobile. I so enjoyed the car in so many ways and yet, for the way I like to use a car, it just did not meet my needs or expectations. While signing the consignment agreement, I realized I had been a Porsche enthusiast and owner for decades and this would be the first time I did not have a Porsche in my garage. Fortunately, there was a seal grey/black 997 Carrera S on display, which I acquired and drove away two hours later. And yes, the car is a six speed. It is so great to drive. If Porsche modifies the clutch/transmission on the CGT, I will certainly want to again have a CGT in my garage. If not, a 997 Turbo will be the next Porsche in my life.
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pierre said:
Do they actually sell or are they for sale at above MSRP?...
Greetings,
--Pierre
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DavidSF said:
The car was on sale for $435k and the guy bought it for $431k? What a great negotiator!
We're talking about a Carrera GT, not a Lexus.
In Germany Carrera GT for immediate delivery still sell slightly over MSRP.
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MKW said:
... . But he's not wearing a seat belt per story in our local paper when he was in town yesterday going down one of our busier accident prone freeways ! Many of our heads of state are the same way - or fly in pvt craft unbelted . Head vs windshield / ceiling is not a pleasant thought.
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MKW said:
... . But he's not wearing a seat belt per story in our local paper when he was in town yesterday going down one of our busier accident prone freeways ! Many of our heads of state are the same way - or fly in pvt craft unbelted . Head vs windshield / ceiling is not a pleasant thought.
It seems to be a trait of many people in power. Perhaps it is psychological and they think they are so powerful that they are immune to accidents.
Really, it is utter stupidity. The famous Princess Diana accident was the same thing - of the four S500 occupants, the only survivor was the front passenger, the only one wearing a seatbelt.
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VKSF said:
Although I always seem to see Larry Ellison driving around SF region in his SL55 belted up...which Larry even references in some investor presentations, etc, raving about Merc safety engineering/systems.....different strokes for different billionaires....