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Jan 7, 2019 12:11:20 PM

the-missile: Rennteam Master; Loc: The World , France; Posts: 3484, Gallery; Registered on: May 10, 2014; Reply to: RC

Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

I don't know what they are doing but I know that we have Feb and March production cars here...this certification is either a mess or a good excuse to avoid euro pollution foot print, extra parts and higher cost to issue the car to Europe and sell the car everywhere else...

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Jan 9, 2019 11:16:26 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59609, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: the-missile

Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

I just heard (again) the rumor that the cars were delayed because of the WLTP certification in Germany.

Also, it seems that even German cars won't get a particulate filter, this is the reason why they are producing the next batch only for a couple of months (after Sept 1st 2019, newly produced cars need to have a particulate filter to fulfill Euro 6d temp). Again...this is a rumor but it is highly possible that the second batch will have no particulate filter, not even for European cars.

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Jan 9, 2019 11:34:03 AM

Gauss: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Luxembourg , Luxembourg; Posts: 5822, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 3, 2003; Reply to: RC

Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

That would be terrific news if true. Let’s hope so kiss

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Jan 10, 2019 8:37:41 PM

GoHardGT3RS: Co-Pilot; Loc: X , Germany; Posts: 183, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 15, 2015; Reply to: Gauss

Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

Hard to believe for me (my understanding is that PF is needed to pass Euro 6c), RC, bu this would be terrific!

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Jan 11, 2019 9:11:23 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59609, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: GoHardGT3RS

Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

GoHardGT3RS:
Hard to believe for me (my understanding is that PF is needed to pass Euro 6c), RC, bu this would be terrific!

I have to be blunt here: I already heard a car with particulate filter (so it is safe to say I saw it too Smiley ), so this rumor is really a bit weird but it came from a (usually) pretty reliable source outside Porsche. Smiley

The GT3 RS will be WLTP certified (Euro 6c I think) but not Euro 6d temp, so no particulate filter. Again, a rumor but if true, this would be really great for owners.

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Jan 11, 2019 9:18:24 PM

GoHardGT3RS: Co-Pilot; Loc: X , Germany; Posts: 183, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 15, 2015; Reply to: RC

Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

According to my understanding all cars require a PF to be registered since Sept. 1st in the European Union, isn't it?

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Jan 12, 2019 9:08:13 AM

acky: Co-Pilot; Loc: Westerwald , Germany; Posts: 203, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 25, 2002; Reply to: GoHardGT3RS

Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

They don't need PF, they need to pass the WLTP and the 6dTemp regulations. Almost all cars need the PF to pass the test, but PF itself is not mandatory.
For example 2019 Mazda MX5 6dTemp, no turbo, no PF. They manage it with a conventional NA engine. Ok small car, small engine.

Maybe for cars with a small production number there are excemptions and Porsche only need WLTP and Euro6c for the GT3 RS.

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Jan 12, 2019 1:27:43 PM

GoHardGT3RS: Co-Pilot; Loc: X , Germany; Posts: 183, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 15, 2015; Reply to: acky

Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

Thanks for the clarification, acky

Let's keep fingers crossed that the rumour which RC got will become reality, but very low probability, I guess.

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Jan 12, 2019 1:39:26 PM

Kobalt: Expert; Loc: Europe , Sweden; Posts: 1819, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 18, 2015; Reply to: GoHardGT3RS

Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

^It is a bit frustrating that no-one really knows what the situation is.

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Jan 12, 2019 5:34:34 PM

giorgiozeta: Newbie; Loc: Nordschleife , Italy; Posts: 6, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 11, 2019; Reply to: GoHardGT3RS

Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

Finger crossed here too...but still no news on 2019 allocations at my dealer, filter or no filter...and it seems a bit late now Smiley

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Jan 13, 2019 8:51:23 AM

GoHardGT3RS: Co-Pilot; Loc: X , Germany; Posts: 183, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 15, 2015; Reply to: giorgiozeta

Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

It is late indeed since first deliveries of batch 2 are planned for June.

According to my PC, the WLTP mess has caused significant delay in having the GT3 RS batch 2 started.

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Jan 13, 2019 9:54:54 AM

ZahirD: Junior; Loc: Dubai , United Arab Emirates; Posts: 67, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 30, 2018; Reply to: GoHardGT3RS

Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

Ok guys change of subject what’s everyone’s opinion on the speedster that’s going to start deliveries this year and has the bookings started anywhere. I know they have not started in the Middle East yet.

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Jan 13, 2019 7:22:24 PM

giorgiozeta: Newbie; Loc: Nordschleife , Italy; Posts: 6, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 11, 2019; Reply to: GoHardGT3RS

Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

Are them taking deposits for those June deliveries or still nothing there too ?

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Jan 14, 2019 7:28:48 AM

GoHardGT3RS: Co-Pilot; Loc: X , Germany; Posts: 183, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 15, 2015; Reply to: giorgiozeta

Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

Allocations are apparently not yet given to the dealers yet, at least in Germany. Anyway the Porsche Centers in Germany typically do not ask for deposits to have you on the list. I never had to pay one to get a GT3RS.

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Jan 14, 2019 11:55:01 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59609, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: GoHardGT3RS

Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

GoHardGT3RS:
Allocations are apparently not yet given to the dealers yet, at least in Germany. Anyway the Porsche Centers in Germany typically do not ask for deposits to have you on the list. I never had to pay one to get a GT3RS.

Deposits are very unusual in Germany. I think there was a deposit of 50k for the 918 but otherwise... Smiley

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Jan 14, 2019 12:12:34 PM

giorgiozeta: Newbie; Loc: Nordschleife , Italy; Posts: 6, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 11, 2019; Reply to: RC

Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

Yes same situation here, little deposits only when allocations arrive and the order is doable...no deposits before that moment.

My question was to understand if those (June ?) orders had been secured/approved by Porsche!

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Jan 14, 2019 12:59:31 PM

ZahirD: Junior; Loc: Dubai , United Arab Emirates; Posts: 67, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 30, 2018; Reply to: giorgiozeta

Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

Well Porsche Middle East has not received any allocations. So I don’t know about the rest.

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Jan 14, 2019 3:56:16 PM

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Canada; Posts: 16151, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 19, 2006; Reply to: RC

Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

RC:
GoHardGT3RS:
Allocations are apparently not yet given to the dealers yet, at least in Germany. Anyway the Porsche Centers in Germany typically do not ask for deposits to have you on the list. I never had to pay one to get a GT3RS.

Deposits are very unusual in Germany. I think there was a deposit of 50k for the 918 but otherwise...

It's more like 200k US deposit back then

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Jan 14, 2019 4:27:22 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59609, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: Whoopsy

Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

Whoopsy:
RC:
GoHardGT3RS:
Allocations are apparently not yet given to the dealers yet, at least in Germany. Anyway the Porsche Centers in Germany typically do not ask for deposits to have you on the list. I never had to pay one to get a GT3RS.

Deposits are very unusual in Germany. I think there was a deposit of 50k for the 918 but otherwise...

It's more like 200k US deposit back then

Wow...much more than in Germany. Maybe because deposits aren't "common" in Germany? Smiley

I had to make a 17k EUR deposit for my Huracan Performante order, Aventador SVJ orders required a 30k EUR deposit. "Funny": Over 31 orders, only 4 cars...27 people needed to get their deposit back, not pretty.

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Jan 14, 2019 4:57:09 PM

the-missile: Rennteam Master; Loc: The World , France; Posts: 3484, Gallery; Registered on: May 10, 2014; Reply to: ZahirD

Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

ZahirD:
Well Porsche Middle East has not received any allocations. So I don’t know about the rest.

Which month are you talking about? Pretty much cars are being done every week just for UAE.

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Jan 14, 2019 6:40:14 PM

ZahirD: Junior; Loc: Dubai , United Arab Emirates; Posts: 67, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 30, 2018; Reply to: the-missile

Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

What I hear is that the allocations for GT3 RS are done in uae are they delivering more cars now.

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Jan 18, 2019 9:41:24 AM

Gnil: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: VD, Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 14193, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 11, 2005; Reply to: ZahirD

Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

Any serious info about the European second batch ?

A friend of a friend of a friend indecision just forwarded me a message that the EU car will come with - 20 HP, as it was confirmed by a german dealer about his july delivery car yes

Anyone else got this ?

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Jan 18, 2019 10:10:24 AM

Gauss: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Luxembourg , Luxembourg; Posts: 5822, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 3, 2003; Reply to: Gnil

Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

There are other rumours floating around. Some are saying 4.2 L upgrade, but I don't believe it.

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Jan 18, 2019 12:23:21 PM

BjoernB: Rennteam Master; Loc: Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 4100, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 19, 2004; Reply to: Gauss

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we take the better one indecision

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Jan 18, 2019 3:41:46 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59609, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: Gnil

Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

Gnil:
Any serious info about the European second batch ?

A friend of a friend of a friend just forwarded me a message that the EU car will come with - 20 HP, as it was confirmed by a german dealer about his july delivery car

Anyone else got this ?

There are (or were?...my second batch info is over a month old) issues with the WLTP certification and particulate filter but who knows, maybe that no particulate filter thing is true? Smiley

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Jan 18, 2019 10:59:45 PM

GoHardGT3RS: Co-Pilot; Loc: X , Germany; Posts: 183, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 15, 2015; Reply to: RC

Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

My latest info: Batch 2 definitively with PF (at least for EU) but Porsche engineers would be very proud of what they could achieve in terms of noise and power...

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Jan 18, 2019 11:20:28 PM

Gauss: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Luxembourg , Luxembourg; Posts: 5822, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 3, 2003; Reply to: GoHardGT3RS

Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

Hopefully more power for the lack of sound kiss

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Jan 19, 2019 10:57:05 AM

giorgiozeta: Newbie; Loc: Nordschleife , Italy; Posts: 6, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 11, 2019; Reply to: Gauss

Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

So a 2019 RS without the filter will be 540 hp

AP once told the actual 4.0 is good for 600+ hp...easy to believe they can gain at least 520 hp with a filter

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Jan 19, 2019 2:37:40 PM

Leawood911: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Kansas, USA , United States; Posts: 6924, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 29, 2006; Reply to: giorgiozeta

Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

giorgiozeta:
So a 2019 RS without the filter will be 540 hp

AP once told the actual 4.0 is good for 600+ hp...easy to believe they can gain at least 520 hp with a filter

Interesting. I doubt much over 520 is possible at 4.0l. 600? A 520 GAIN ... impossible.

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Jan 19, 2019 2:41:49 PM

EnglishManInNY: Expert; Loc: Long Island NY. , United States; Posts: 1477, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 8, 2003; Reply to: Leawood911

Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

I also remember AP being quoted as saying 600hp+ and 9500rpm was possible.

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