d997h:yeah, the design seems to work well with darker colors...
Because you won't recognise all those cheap looking black and dark grey plastic bits and pieces that much...
We're at the point where you can be the fastest or just sound like you're the fastest.
The secret of life is to admire without desiring.
The bare plastics cheapen the 992 with an entry price of €120.000.
Those large unpainted surfaces would only be acceptable on Light Goods Vehicles but not even on budget passenger cars.
I am sure Porsche will offer expensive options for having the plastics painted through Exclusive very soon and prior to the facelift period.
"Porsche....and Nothing else matters"
Painting over the plastics and not swapping it out with higher quality material, not sure this kind of option is even acceptable, while msrp hits 140k with interior + exterior options which is mostly change of colors and inner trim leather seat for a barbapapa looking 911
reginos:I haven't seen the car but the stance with the wider front axle should look more dynamic than the 991.
It is the detailing inside and out that leaves a lot to be desired.
Plenty of work for the facelift
I actually like the rear but those plastic parts...not really my thing.
Not a big fan of the front, they radically modernized the rear but the front looks almost the same, they should have thought about different front lights and yes, they will be taken care of with the facelift.
Interior lacks a little bit of structure, I don't know.
Overall, I'm not impressed but I leave the final verdict to the moment I actually get to drive one of these for a couple of hours...
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reginos:I haven't seen the car but the stance with the wider front axle should look more dynamic than the 991.
It is the detailing inside and out that leaves a lot to be desired.
Plenty of work for the facelift
First time I have heard someone described big ass-ed Kim Kardashian as dynamic..................
Whoopsy:reginos:I haven't seen the car but the stance with the wider front axle should look more dynamic than the 991.
It is the detailing inside and out that leaves a lot to be desired.
Plenty of work for the facelift
First time I have heard someone described big ass-ed Kim Kardashian as dynamic..................
Kim Kardashian has a nice make-up face, nothing more and nothing less. Nothing special though, her body is hideous. I'm not trying to body shame anyone, not my thing but this hype about Kim Kardashian and her big butt is absolutely crazy...no...insane...no...idiotic.
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RC:Whoopsy:reginos:I haven't seen the car but the stance with the wider front axle should look more dynamic than the 991.
It is the detailing inside and out that leaves a lot to be desired.
Plenty of work for the facelift
First time I have heard someone described big ass-ed Kim Kardashian as dynamic..................
Kim Kardashian has a nice make-up face, nothing more and nothing less. Nothing special though, her body is hideous. I'm not trying to body shame anyone, not my thing but this hype about Kim Kardashian and her big butt is absolutely crazy...no...insane...no...idiotic.
You have gone PC!!
Pointing out someone is fat or has an ugly fat ass is not body shaming, it's call telling the truth. Modern millennials seems like they can't handle truths. They want everything to be sugar coated.
Modern society is a sad place to be in right now. Everyone is extremely narrow minded and easily offended. No fun.
I am born in the 70s but seems like mentally I am enjoying the 60s, 70s, 80s and even the 90s. The time period where everyone is open minded and no one take things personally.
And yes, the 992 looks fat.
It started already with the 991, 992 just make it worse.
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A typical Rennteam diversion, from the 992 to Kim Kardashian
We must admit that Kim Kardashian is very clever. She is taking full advantage of the present day pop culture for fame and fortune. Millions consider her a phenomenon and probably sexy although she is much below average
"Porsche....and Nothing else matters"
Feb 5, 2019 6:10:17 PM
reginos:We must admit that Kim Kardashian is very clever. She is taking full advantage of the present day pop culture for fame and fortune. Millions consider her a phenomenon and probably sexy although she is much below average
A sign of the mediocracy of society were garbage with no merit or ability or values can be idols to many... reminds me the movie Idiocracy...
⇒ Carlos - Porsche 991 Carrera GTS
Feb 5, 2019 6:47:44 PM
Carlos from Spain:reginos:We must admit that Kim Kardashian is very clever. She is taking full advantage of the present day pop culture for fame and fortune. Millions consider her a phenomenon and probably sexy although she is much below average
A sign of the mediocracy of society were garbage with no merit or ability or values can be idols to many... reminds me the movie Idiocracy...
Stress is man made.
reginos:A typical Rennteam diversion, from the 992 to Kim Kardashian
We must admit that Kim Kardashian is very clever. She is taking full advantage of the present day pop culture for fame and fortune. Millions consider her a phenomenon and probably sexy although she is much below average
She is very clever, indeed. She isn't dumb (neither is Kanye West, his "craziness" makes serious money). The most clever person in their lives is their manager though, I would love to meet him, invite him to a coffee and talk with him about social media and stuff like that. Must be a marketing genius if he can pull off what he did and this goes to the whole Kardashian family.
Those who say that the Kardashians are dumb need a reality check. I admire them a lot for their (business) success.
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Feb 6, 2019 9:20:40 AM
Carlos from Spain:reginos:We must admit that Kim Kardashian is very clever. She is taking full advantage of the present day pop culture for fame and fortune. Millions consider her a phenomenon and probably sexy although she is much below average
A sign of the mediocracy of society were garbage with no merit or ability or values can be idols to many... reminds me the movie Idiocracy...
I watch YouTube videos in the evening, usually with my kids together for a half an hour or so, because it is fun. We have a 65'' TV in the living room with "built-in" YouTube, so...
After watching these videos, I sometimes ask myself: How is it possible that I cannot pull off something like that myself? I guess I'm too dumb for it or I just don't understand what people want to see on YouTube.
Biggest shock for me are Jeffrey Star and Jake Paul. My wife watched them for a couple of minutes, stood up and said: "I am a doctor, I save lives every day (she does, she has an amazing record of "discovering" early cancer stages) and these YouTubers make more money in a month or maybe even in a week than I make in a year...". I agree but this is what people want...and this pays well.
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Feb 6, 2019 9:57:16 AM
Kardashian business was born on sextape video and then idea for real life camera recording.
absolutely no clever idea there. From there, real life records expanding to promotion of their lifestyle and then creating business on that was afterwards. They come from wealthy situation. No smart idea. Just consequences.
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991.2 GT3 manual, 991 GT3 2014(sold)
Cayenne GTS 2014
Feb 6, 2019 10:08:30 AM
the-missile:Kardashian business was born on sextape video and then idea for real life camera recording.
True...it started with a scandal...which is always good (in a way).
absolutely no clever idea there. From there, real life records expanding to promotion of their lifestyle and then creating business on that was afterwards. They come from wealthy situation. No smart idea. Just consequences.
So many similar business attempts and failures...I still think that the brain behind this (manager?) is a very very clever person. It takes a lot of intelligence to promote less than average looking people who have no talents whatsoever. Don't get me wrong, neither Kim Kardashian nor her sister Kylie Jenner are dumb, on the contrary but the real brain behind this is the management.
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Feb 6, 2019 10:17:32 AM
You don't have to be dumb to be human trash, two different things, and apparently trash can sell to the masses nowadays, which I couldn't care less about them, except for the fact of what that tells about the decadence and shallowness of part of our society, that is sad.
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⇒ Carlos - Porsche 991 Carrera GTS
Feb 6, 2019 10:23:07 AM
Carlos from Spain:You don't have to be dumb to be human trash, two different things, and apparently trash can sell to the masses nowadays, which I couldn't care less about them, except for the fact of what that tells about the decadence and shallowness of part of our society, that is sad.
I have to admit I don't care about our society anymore. You can't really change it, political correctness has replaced common sense, shallowness has replaced emotions and logical thinking, so why would I care anymore?!
I try to make the best out of it but apparently some people are much better with this than me, see Kardashians. Kylie Jenner could become the youngest billionaire ever, so...
Like it or not but it is us who are doing something wrong.
Give the people what they want, I need to get used to this.
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Feb 6, 2019 10:26:34 AM
Yeah, I may seem a bit blunt on this topic but not going to sugar coat it and be PC about it, with people out there making amazing contributions to humanity, or being examples of excellence in their field or intellectual feats, or hard work or altruism...and these others that represent the worst humanity has to offer are the ones idolized and recognized? it is just infuriating to say the least.
I don't care the least what these trash earn or do, that is an aspect that doesn't bother me, but the fact that they are followed like roll models or are popular for what they do, when there are scientists, humanitarians, leaders, etc that go un-noticed, that is the part that just gets to me, because it paints a bleak picture of where society is placing their values and it is not in the advancement and progress of civilization.
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⇒ Carlos - Porsche 991 Carrera GTS
Feb 6, 2019 12:39:50 PM
Carlos from Spain:You don't have to be dumb to be human trash, two different things, and apparently trash can sell to the masses nowadays, which I couldn't care less about them, except for the fact of what that tells about the decadence and shallowness of part of our society, that is sad.
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⇒ Carlos - Porsche 991 Carrera GTS
+100000
Feb 6, 2019 1:47:51 PM
Carlos from Spain:reginos:We must admit that Kim Kardashian is very clever. She is taking full advantage of the present day pop culture for fame and fortune. Millions consider her a phenomenon and probably sexy although she is much below average
A sign of the mediocracy of society were garbage with no merit or ability or values can be idols to many... reminds me the movie Idiocracy...
What little I have watched ofYou tube videos, I am convinced to have a chance to be successful you need to be bold, not fear humiliation, accept frequent failures and lack self respect. In short, strip away all dignity and expose yourself to the world all in the name of the mighty dollar.
Stress is man made.
Feb 6, 2019 11:08:53 PM
nberry:What little I have watched ofYou tube videos, I am convinced to have a chance to be successful you need to be bold, not fear humiliation, accept frequent failures and lack self respect. In short, strip away all dignity and expose yourself to the world all in the name of the mighty dollar.
Did I mention my wife is a youtuber? Lol. Agree on all fronts.
Ferdie:Rossi:d997h:yeah, the design seems to work well with darker colors...
Because you won't recognise all those cheap looking black and dark grey plastic bits and pieces that much...
And those huge panel gaps as well.
Sorry for commenting on-topic.
These should be taken care of...
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RC:Ferdie:Rossi:d997h:yeah, the design seems to work well with darker colors...
Because you won't recognise all those cheap looking black and dark grey plastic bits and pieces that much...
And those huge panel gaps as well.
Sorry for commenting on-topic.
These should be taken care of...
They should take care of their starting price too, before they realize not many people are willing to spend close to 200k + options on a base 911. It will be interesting to see how much higher the Turbo's asking price will be and how much they'll manage to sell