5-nov-2018 9.03.09
Joost:DaveGordon:I reckon those upper wing mounts are made of wood
Rather the lower wing mounts;
The reason that wings on cars are sometimes suspended rather than supported from the underside is that the underside of the wing delivers the most aerodynamic downforce. When using wing supports on the underside of the wing, the support has a large disruptive effect on the efficiency of the laminar airflow under the wing. The idea is that when you use supports on the upper side of the wing, you have the same disruptive effect, but on the upper side of the wing which contributes less to the downforce anyway.
Hi - yes, I was reading about this effect when researching why the Senna is so ugly
So makes perfect sense aerodynamically.. was a joke really but yes, it could be the other way around.. hope not.
2015 911 GT3, 1964 Type 1
5-nov-2018 9.31.56
6-nov-2018 12.41.00
I took some videos of some of the 992's last Thursday. Sorry for the bad quality.
Carrera
Turbo Cabrio
Turbo
Some other cars
Taycan
Cayenne(?")
Panamera
Cayman
Cayman GT4
KMM:With all these company orchestrated sneak peeks, by the time the car becomes available the novelty will have worn off.
Interest will burgeon when people get to drive the car.
I expect the 992 to be fantastic dynamically and to punch much above its price bracket.
I wish Porsche designers were more brave with the styling, however. The finished car hasn't been revealed yet but from what we have seen so far it will be very samey, unfortunately.
"Porsche....and Nothing else matters"
KMM:With all these company orchestrated sneak peeks, by the time the car becomes available the novelty will have worn off.
Novelty? This is a 911...
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Range Rover Evoque Si4 Black Edition (2019)
KMM:With all these company orchestrated sneak peeks, by the time the car becomes available the novelty will have worn off.
Novelty and a Porsche 911?
EDIT:
RC thought the same and was quicker.
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We're at the point where you can be the fastest or just sound like you're the fastest.
The secret of life is to admire without desiring.
6-nov-2018 16.09.59
6-nov-2018 16.22.58
This lack of variety in the 911 style is a boring phenomenon of the last 20 years.
996-997-991-992: a continuous monotony.
Before that Porsche went successfully from the ancient Carrera 3.2 style to the fresh 964 and the very special for its era 993 style in a period of just 10 years. They delivered contemporary designs while still maintaining the 911 profile and other visual cues.
"Porsche....and Nothing else matters"
SciFrog:At least they could have removed the gear lever... but they didn’t even do that...
But you get a BRAUN shaver instead, isn't that enough innovation?
We're at the point where you can be the fastest or just sound like you're the fastest.
The secret of life is to admire without desiring.
reginos:This lack of variety in the 911 style is a boring phenomenon of the last 20 years.
I agree with you, but people will keep buying it as it is the most practical sport car that kind of can do it all if one can just own one sport car.
Tim
2010 997.2 GT3RS; 2008 Cayenne Turbo; 2006 911 Club Coupe; 2016 911 GTS Club Coupe; 2015 Macan S
Targa Tim:reginos:This lack of variety in the 911 style is a boring phenomenon of the last 20 years.
I agree with you, but people will keep buying it as it is the most practical sport car that kind of can do it all if one can just own one sport car.
Many "people who know" have been bitten by the 911 bug But I'd like to see something fresh that also excites me visually.
I remember in 1989 how exciting the Panamericana Concept was compared to the contemporary 911. This design led to the 993 and some elements were carried over to the original Boxster.
"Porsche....and Nothing else matters"
6-nov-2018 18.58.47
reginos:Targa Tim:reginos:This lack of variety in the 911 style is a boring phenomenon of the last 20 years.
I agree with you, but people will keep buying it as it is the most practical sport car that kind of can do it all if one can just own one sport car.
Many "people who know" have been bitten by the 911 bug But I'd like to see something fresh that also excites me visually.
I remember in 1989 how exciting the Panamericana Concept was compared to the contemporary 911. This design led to the 993 and some elements were carried over to the original Boxster.
Initially, I was underwhelmed by the appearance of the 992, even as it still wore its camouflage. Then I read some of the initial prototype driving impressions and I’m now, once more, looking forward to its release.
I realize it's a 911, so the novelty would be limited to details.
I too remember when the 993 was launched, and how exciting it was (despite the same old windshield angle and drip rails. And of course the 928. There is no Tony Lapine at Porsche anymore; hasn't been anyone there of that caliber for years.
6-nov-2018 20.25.31
KMM:I realize it's a 911, so the novelty would be limited to details.
I too remember when the 993 was launched, and how exciting it was (despite the same old windshield angle and drip rails. And of course the 928. There is no Tony Lapine at Porsche anymore; hasn't been anyone there of that caliber for years.
Weirdly, Porsche’s Michael Mauer heads design efforts for the entire Volkswagen Group. There isn’t one vehicle that goes into production without his approval. I do like the new Panamera because it looks like a 911; however, this has caused the 992 to resemble the Panamera too closely. The new Cayenne looks like a miss designwise, but one cannot deny its incredible performance for a SUV.