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    Re: New Lamborghini

    Name of the car is ESTOQUE. Spanish-Estoque is a kind of sword used for killing bulls...

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    and I stand corrected : it's based on the audi a7 after all..

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    KresoF1 said:
    Name of the car is ESTOQUE. Spanish-Estoque is a kind of sword used for killing bulls...



    Do they expect it to kill the Murcielago?

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    fritz said:
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    KresoF1 said:
    Name of the car is ESTOQUE. Spanish-Estoque is a kind of sword used for killing bulls...


    Do they expect it to kill the Murcielago?



    Not one of their own. The 4-door Lambo was ordered by Dr. Piech to kill the Panamera just on its birth.

    The audi a7 concept was originally set for Paris, but delayed to make room for the Lambo. Dr. Piech wants to embarass the Panamera with the design of the Lambo. VW is hating Porsche right now.

    Paris will be a slaughterhouse.

    Head-to-head with the Lambo, the Panamera will look as what it really is : a giant 5-door hatchback.

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    fritz said:
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    KresoF1 said:
    Name of the car is ESTOQUE. Spanish-Estoque is a kind of sword used for killing bulls...



    Do they expect it to kill the Murcielago?



    Well one thing is for sure, it kills what Lamborghini used to stand for... Outrageous sportscars!

    The raging bulls!!

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    shin said:
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    fritz said:
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    KresoF1 said:
    Name of the car is ESTOQUE. Spanish-Estoque is a kind of sword used for killing bulls...


    Do they expect it to kill the Murcielago?



    Not one of their own. The 4-door Lambo was ordered by Dr. Piech to kill the Panamera just on its birth.




    I think you missed the point. The Murcielago is named after a fighting bull. It just seems a little weird to name another model after a bullfighter's sword.

    Now if Pagani had used that name I'd understand it.

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    shin said:
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    fritz said:
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    KresoF1 said:
    Name of the car is ESTOQUE. Spanish-Estoque is a kind of sword used for killing bulls...


    Do they expect it to kill the Murcielago?



    Not one of their own. The 4-door Lambo was ordered by Dr. Piech to kill the Panamera just on its birth.

    The audi a7 concept was originally set for Paris, but delayed to make room for the Lambo. Dr. Piech wants to embarass the Panamera with the design of the Lambo. VW is hating Porsche right now.

    Paris will be a slaughterhouse.

    Head-to-head with the Lambo, the Panamera will look as what it really is : a giant 5-door hatchback.



    All true. BTW, provisional dealers order guide for R8 V10 is on my HD. Someone interested in few hints?

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    So its the sword that will kill the Panamera:)

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    What is the expected price of this new lamborghini?

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    300K

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    Discover said:
    300K




    Oooooh.
    That'll really kill the Panamera!

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    alsahher said:
    So its the sword that will kill the Panamera:)



    Probably not. One of the reasons Porsche took over VW was to kick piech out because apparently he was culprit behind approving or rather pushing this 4-door for Lambo to manufacture.

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    KresoF1 said:
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    shin said:
    Quote:
    fritz said:
    Quote:
    KresoF1 said:
    Name of the car is ESTOQUE. Spanish-Estoque is a kind of sword used for killing bulls...


    Do they expect it to kill the Murcielago?



    Not one of their own. The 4-door Lambo was ordered by Dr. Piech to kill the Panamera just on its birth.

    The audi a7 concept was originally set for Paris, but delayed to make room for the Lambo. Dr. Piech wants to embarass the Panamera with the design of the Lambo. VW is hating Porsche right now.

    Paris will be a slaughterhouse.

    Head-to-head with the Lambo, the Panamera will look as what it really is : a giant 5-door hatchback.



    All true. BTW, provisional dealers order guide for R8 V10 is on my HD. Someone interested in few hints?






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    R8 V10 standard colors:

    Phantom Black/Lava Grey
    Ibis White/Ice Silver
    Daytona Grey/Quartz Grey
    Ice Silver/Apollo Silver
    Brilliant Red/Brilliant Red
    Sepang Blue/Sepang Blue

    5204ccm 386kw/525ps/540Nm

    Manual and R Tronic

    More day or so before Paris...

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    shin said:
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    fritz said:
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    KresoF1 said:
    Name of the car is ESTOQUE. Spanish-Estoque is a kind of sword used for killing bulls...


    Do they expect it to kill the Murcielago?



    Not one of their own. The 4-door Lambo was ordered by Dr. Piech to kill the Panamera just on its birth.

    The audi a7 concept was originally set for Paris, but delayed to make room for the Lambo. Dr. Piech wants to embarass the Panamera with the design of the Lambo. VW is hating Porsche right now.

    Paris will be a slaughterhouse.

    Head-to-head with the Lambo, the Panamera will look as what it really is : a giant 5-door hatchback.



    Do you really think he hates Porsche that much? I wouldn't want to screw my families company full stop - I bet he has plenty of shares at Porsche and whats more, he has done more good than bad for motoring in general I think. He initiated some great technologies for us motorist - he is a speed demon and technology freak, he got money and brains into Lamborghini, he put Bugatti back into business, just look at Bentley, they have sold more Contintental GT's than all other cars they built! He did more for VW USA than Hahn did and at the day he is Mr. Porsche's grandson! He is not called Ferdinand by accident

    PS My bet is he is keeping Porsche on their toes. Let's face it Wedeking is a great accountant who can come up with a marketing strategy and pricing to convince you that you really need to have your sun visors in leather or you just won't feel special (at a charge of course) and Ferdinand is a speed demon who is happy to loose money on cars if it brings new technology!

    PPS If my grand pa was Dr. Porsche I would feel that WW has watered down the dream and has turned Porsche into a new Benz! And yes I do love the Cayenne and appreciate that making it in Czech is a good thing (assembly in Germany) and yes, if I can squeeze a few dollars out of making the Boxster in Finland its a smart thing to do - especially if people continue to buy and the money helps invest in a secure future.

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    Porky Tokyo said:
    Do you really think he hates Porsche that much?



    The issue is all politics and power. Has nothing to do with Panamera or Lambo, when you get to the level it all boils down to control, control and more control.

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    shin said:

    Paris will be a slaughterhouse.

    Head-to-head with the Lambo, the Panamera will look as what it really is : a giant 5-door hatchback.



    Panamera will be at Paris ? I had no idea it'll be there I thought the introduction was Frankfurt show.

    I can't wait, if it's in Paris. I may take the day off and watch the fight .

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    Ron (Houston) said:
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    shin said:

    Paris will be a slaughterhouse.

    Head-to-head with the Lambo, the Panamera will look as what it really is : a giant 5-door hatchback.



    Panamera will be at Paris ? I had no idea it'll be there. I thought the introduction was Frankfurt show.

    I can't wait, if it's in Paris. I may take the day off and watch the fight .


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    Panamera won't be launched at Paris. Introduction will be later this year. Further more the Lamborghini is just a concept. They are two very different cars.

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    KresoF1 said:
    Name of the car is ESTOQUE. Spanish-Estoque is a kind of sword used for killing bulls...



    Maybe they should pick a name that relates to killing horses (not bulls)...

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    Emperor said:
    Panamera won't be launched at Paris. Introduction will be later this year. Further more the Lamborghini is just a concept. They are two very different cars.



    Lamborghini four door will be a conceptual nonsense.

    Because the exotic and "bijou" type of car that Lamborghini is, does not coincide with the everyday practicality and substance buyers of 4door cars require.

    At best Lamborghini should re-create a present-day Espada to compete against the Scaglieti and the Maserati GT.

    New Lambo teaser

    Nice lights

     
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