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    997.1 X51 and 20mm Sport - Hard to find as a used

    Hello,

    first of all I want to tell a little about me, as I'm reading the posts in here for long but did not get to write a post.
    My name is Benjamin and I'm from Germany. After having a 996 Cab and a 997 S Cab I'm without Porsche now.
    After many trackdays I realized, that I like driving at the track more than driving a cab, so I decided to sell my 997 s cab to find a coupe for track use.
    For this reason I'm searching for a 997 S Coupe with X51 and 20mm Sport-Suspension, as I don't feel ready for a GT 3.
    So I want to know, if anybody knows about the number of cars delivered to Germany. I mean do I have to be quick, if I find such a car or can I stay cool and just wait for the best offer and configuration/color of this car.

    Thanks,

    Ben

    Re: 997.1 X51 and 20mm Sport - Hard to find as a used

    Unless your looking to save money on a pre-owned one, go for the 2009 with 20mm and LSD.

    Re: 997.1 X51 and 20mm Sport - Hard to find as a u

    There is just one C4S X51 -20mm for sale on www.mobile .de
    (see below) and no C2S X51. There are lots of regular 997 C2S cars.


    Porsche 911 Carrera 4S 997 x51 - 381PS -20mm - LSD-
    Sports car/Coupe
    40476 Düsseldorf , HU 1/2009
    Black , Manual gearbox
    Automatic air conditioning, Four wheel drive, Leather seats
    Park vehicle
    1/2006 32,500km 83,000 EUR

    Re: 997.1 X51 and 20mm Sport - Hard to find as a u

    Hello again,

    thanks for your help, but there are obviously 3 or 4 C2S at the market right now.
    Are here any members who are driving such a car?

    Ben

    Re: 997.1 X51 and 20mm Sport - Hard to find as a u

    Not too many people will want to sell a car like that because the depreciation would be so high

    X51 is soooo overpriced from the factory.

    Re: 997.1 X51 and 20mm Sport - Hard to find as a u

    Hi together, nice to see my car 4s with -20mm and lsd from mobile.de. I put it also to ebay. search for "997 x51"
    regards from duesseldorf, berkol

    Re: 997.1 X51 and 20mm Sport - Hard to find as a u

    Quote:
    Alibaba said:
    Hi together, nice to see my car 4s with -20mm and lsd from mobile.de. I put it also to ebay. search for "997 x51"
    regards from duesseldorf, berkol



    Could you post some pictures of your car? I love your spec!

    Re: 997.1 X51 and 20mm Sport - Hard to find as a u

    Pics here:
    http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/showDe...amp;tabNumber=2

    Alibaba, this is my dream car, but a bit too expensive for me
    Can you give us the exact list of options ? (I don't speak a single word of german )

    Re: 997.1 X51 and 20mm Sport - Hard to find as a u

    Here are some more and bigger pictures from ebay:
    http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330261680782

    @BangoO: Most nice thing are x51, lsd, -20mm and maybe the sport chrono, sport seats and the standard this like bose, navigation,.....

    Re: 997.1 X51 and 20mm Sport - Hard to find as a u

    Hi Alibaba - great car and absolute superb pictures from the Media Harbour The pics remind me of Richard (SVNSVN) visiting me with his beautiful 997 4S X51 cab after the factory pick up. I suggested to take some pics at exactly the same spot Good luck with selling your beauty

    Re: 997.1 X51 and 20mm Sport - Hard to find as a u

    Nice picture and "baby."

    Yes, PJ - I definitely should've gotten some shots with the "baby" at Media Harbour. Such a cool location!


    Re: 997.1 X51 and 20mm Sport - Hard to find as a u

    Quote:
    Alibaba said:
    Here are some more and bigger pictures from ebay:
    http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330261680782

    @BangoO: Most nice thing are x51, lsd, -20mm and maybe the sport chrono, sport seats and the standard this like bose, navigation,.....



    For such an over-exposed car... I've never seen an engine compartment so dirty.

    Re: 997.1 X51 and 20mm Sport - Hard to find as a u

    Quote:
    ADias said:
    Quote:
    Alibaba said:
    Here are some more and bigger pictures from ebay:
    http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330261680782

    @BangoO: Most nice thing are x51, lsd, -20mm and maybe the sport chrono, sport seats and the standard this like bose, navigation,.....



    For such an over-exposed car... I've never seen an engine compartment so dirty.



    I thought the same The outer tail pipes are covered completely with rust in the inside. Have never seen that before. I suppose that this is a car driven in winter?

    Re: 997.1 X51 and 20mm Sport - Hard to find as a u

    Yes folkes, I will wash the motor. You were all right! Anyway if I can not sell the car for a good price I will keep it, I would take the some configuratin any time, insteed of the electric roof.

    Re: 997.1 X51 and 20mm Sport - Hard to find as a u

    How is the ride with -20mm compared to a "normal" 4S ?

    Re: 997.1 X51 and 20mm Sport - Hard to find as a u

    d you mean you wouldn't take the electric sunroof anymore, or you would ?

    Re: 997.1 X51 and 20mm Sport - Hard to find as a u

    Quote:
    BangoO said:
    How is the ride with -20mm compared to a "normal" 4S ?



    I have been driving mine now for nearly 3 years. The ride is nearly as hard a pasm.01 in sport mode but feels much nicer. So it is hard but it has a much, much better feel and is confortable enough ( for me) on the kinds of roads we have.

    Re: 997.1 X51 and 20mm Sport - Hard to find as a u

    Thx Gnil, not for me then, roads are crap here...

    Re: 997.1 X51 and 20mm Sport - Hard to find as a u

    Quote:
    BangoO said:
    Thx Gnil, not for me then, roads are crap here...


    are you taking the sunroof again or not ?

    Re: 997.1 X51 and 20mm Sport - Hard to find as a u

    I have a C2S with LSD sports suspension.
    I know that the X51 is attractive but if you dont need the 4WD dont get one as it feels just a little more heavy. Of course if you live in Swizerand this makes sence to have a 4wd but I always prefer rear whell drive.

    If I had to choose between the X51 with Pasm or a sports suspention car with a little more extras then I would go for the handling... A and before I forget NO sunroof... It takes out a lot of the torsional rigidity of the car... See how many people complained about this issue in the USA as they had not choice... All cars had a sunroof.

    Best of luck

    Re: 997.1 X51 and 20mm Sport - Hard to find as a u

    thanks for the comment,

    so it's better without the sunroof !

    what did you mean by:

    torsional rigidity ?

    and explain it with an example of driving ?

    thanks man

    Re: 997.1 X51 and 20mm Sport - Hard to find as a u

    Hey folks,

    today I've just driven a 997 C2S with x51 and 20 mm!
    What a pitty it was raining all the time, but any way I liked the suspension very much. I think it is not as stiff as PASM in Sport Mode.
    I guess if it would have been dry, I couldn't sleep until I get this car and drive it again.
    It is hard to decide now, as I wanted this car soonest in next spring, as the racing is nerly over this year.

    Ben

    Re: 997.1 X51 and 20mm Sport - Hard to find as a u

    Quote:
    987_Belgium said:
    thanks for the comment,

    so it's better without the sunroof !

    what did you mean by:

    torsional rigidity ?

    and explain it with an example of driving ?

    thanks man



    Neem een schoendoos, knip er een gat in 'het open dak' en kijk of de structuur meer "flext" dan zonder het gat...

    Et voila... torsional rigidity praktisch aangetoond....

    Re: 997.1 X51 and 20mm Sport - Hard to find as a u

    www.porsche-braunschweig.de

    they have a black S with X51, which they call

    leistungssteigerung carrera S

     
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