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Aug 6, 2008 4:58:22 PM

turbobrut: Junior; Loc: Italy; Posts: 89, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 27, 2007

Dark Grey Natural Leather pics request (Interior)

I was wondering what is the exact difference between the two grey interiors offered by Porsche.

I understand Dark Grey is, as the name implies, darker....but how much?

Please post pics if you have so I'll be able to make myself an idea of what shade of grey "Darker Grey" actually is.

Thanks in advance

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Aug 6, 2008 7:39:33 PM

Misha011: Veteran; Loc: Dubai , United Arab Emirates; Posts: 1234, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 28, 2007; Reply to: turbobrut

Re: Dark Grey Natural Leather pics request (Interior)

Natural Grey

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Aug 6, 2008 7:52:35 PM

mnalla: Newbie; Loc: Portland, OR USA; Posts: 34, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 1, 2008; Reply to: Misha011

Re: Dark Grey Natural Leather pics request (Interi

Misha:

Is that deviating stitching in white or standard stitichng on the Natural Gray on the dash and seats? Thanks.

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Aug 6, 2008 8:00:36 PM

Misha011: Veteran; Loc: Dubai , United Arab Emirates; Posts: 1234, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 28, 2007; Reply to: mnalla

Re: Dark Grey Natural Leather pics request (Interi

mnalla ,
on the middle pics. it seams like white stitching (not my car - unfortunately)

One day ... GT Silver / Natural grey or Basalt black / Terracotta

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Aug 6, 2008 9:24:03 PM

turbobrut: Junior; Loc: Italy; Posts: 89, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 27, 2007; Reply to: Misha011

Re: Dark Grey Natural Leather pics request (Interi

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Misha011 said:
mnalla ,
on the middle pics. it seams like white stitching (not my car - unfortunately)

One day ... GT Silver / Natural grey or Basalt black / Terracotta

Wonderful combos, the first being my choice for the next car

Thanks for the pics

I'm trying out different configurations..... like:

GT Silver
Dark Grey Leather
Alcantara interior (wheel, pack and gear etc.)
Carb central tunnel
Carb "turbo badge" under the doors (i dont know how to say it with the proper word ahah)

Red instruments

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Aug 6, 2008 10:31:06 PM

Misha011: Veteran; Loc: Dubai , United Arab Emirates; Posts: 1234, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 28, 2007; Reply to: turbobrut

Re: Dark Grey Natural Leather pics request (Interi

Quote:
turbobrut said:
Quote:
Misha011 said:
mnalla ,
on the middle pics. it seams like white stitching (not my car - unfortunately)

One day ... GT Silver / Natural grey or Basalt black / Terracotta

Wonderful combos, the first being my choice for the next car

Thanks for the pics

I'm trying out different configurations..... like:

GT Silver
Dark Grey Leather
Alcantara interior (wheel, pack and gear etc.)
Carb central tunnel
Carb "turbo badge" under the doors (i dont know how to say it with the proper word ahah)

Red instruments

Something like this :

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Aug 7, 2008 2:18:56 PM

turbobrut: Junior; Loc: Italy; Posts: 89, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 27, 2007; Reply to: Misha011

Re: Dark Grey Natural Leather pics request (Interi

yeah sort of

thanks for sharing....

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Aug 7, 2008 2:30:43 PM

SimpleSkin: Co-Pilot; Loc: Ashburn VA, USA , United States; Posts: 213, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 1, 2005; Reply to: turbobrut

Re: Dark Grey Natural Leather pics request (Interi

I had Natural Grey on my old Boxster S and I paid quite a premium to get it. It looked fantastic. However it's almost identical to black full leather. You should compare the two side by side and save some money by going with black. My C2S has black full leather and it's pretty hard to tell the difference. Use the saved money for more useful options or take a vacation.

-j

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Aug 7, 2008 3:12:35 PM

fxhomie: Junior; Loc: Ross Valley, CA , United States; Posts: 59, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 14, 2006; Reply to: SimpleSkin

Re: Dark Grey Natural Leather pics request (Interi

it's the "atlas grey" of interiors...

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Aug 7, 2008 7:08:42 PM

Le Chef: Veteran; Loc: Chicago , United States; Posts: 1059, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 3, 2003; Reply to: fxhomie

Differences in leather quality

My understanding (Dan can add his knowledge here) is that the leather used by Porsche is painted to a color (i.e. black) and the color eventually wears off.

In the natural leathers (brown & gray) the leather is dyed all the way through with the color. So when it wears it ages rather than looking scuffed.

My next 911 will have natural leather for sure even if I have to nix Bose and SC and fancy wheels, etc to make it happen.

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Aug 7, 2008 7:14:24 PM

fxhomie: Junior; Loc: Ross Valley, CA , United States; Posts: 59, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 14, 2006; Reply to: Le Chef

Re: Differences in leather quality

the natural leather option is aniline (drum) dyed, the smooth leather option is semi-aniline, and the std. leather is pigmented (spray) dyed.

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Aug 7, 2008 7:26:23 PM

ADias: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Southwest USA , United States; Posts: 2495, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 9, 2004; Reply to: fxhomie

Re: Differences in leather quality

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fxhomie said:
the natural leather option is aniline (drum) dyed, the smooth leather option is semi-aniline, and the std. leather is pigmented (spray) dyed.

Most leather in cars is painted. My experience is that it usually wears well and it can easily be repaired.

What is the situation with aniline dyed? Is the color in the thickness? How does it handle water? How does it handle dirt and how is it cleaned?

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Aug 7, 2008 9:42:25 PM

turbobrut: Junior; Loc: Italy; Posts: 89, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 27, 2007; Reply to: Le Chef

Re: Differences in leather quality

Quote:
Le Chef said:
My understanding (Dan can add his knowledge here) is that the leather used by Porsche is painted to a color (i.e. black) and the color eventually wears off.

In the natural leathers (brown & gray) the leather is dyed all the way through with the color. So when it wears it ages rather than looking scuffed.

My next 911 will have natural leather for sure even if I have to nix Bose and SC and fancy wheels, etc to make it happen.

Very interesting Le Chef, I didnt know about this difference

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Aug 7, 2008 10:12:13 PM

fxhomie: Junior; Loc: Ross Valley, CA , United States; Posts: 59, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 14, 2006; Reply to: turbobrut

Re: Differences in leather quality

The aniline is softer and develops a patina over time. The color is absorbed through the skin. Because it is more "breathable" than other leathers, water and dirt are also absorbed more easily. A leather soap (cleaner) and conditioner 4 times/yr. should do the trick.

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Aug 7, 2008 10:46:31 PM

Misha011: Veteran; Loc: Dubai , United Arab Emirates; Posts: 1234, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 28, 2007; Reply to: fxhomie

Re: Differences in leather quality

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fxhomie said:
The aniline is softer and develops a patina over time. The color is absorbed through the skin. Because it is more "breathable" than other leathers, water and dirt are also absorbed more easily. A leather soap (cleaner) and
conditioner 4 times/yr. should do the trick.

This pics. shows perfectly cleaned and conditioned leather (Natural grey) with nice patina (996). Quolity leather (and Denim) looks at its best after some time.

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Aug 9, 2008 2:49:46 AM

middy: Newbie; Loc: UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 41, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 17, 2008; Reply to: fxhomie

Re: Differences in leather quality

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fxhomie said:
the natural leather option is aniline (drum) dyed, the smooth leather option is semi-aniline, and the std. leather is pigmented (spray) dyed.

There are only two types of Porsche [real] leather, not three:

Natural leather
Dark Grey
Brown
Carrera red

Smooth leather
Black
Stone grey
Ocean blue
Sand beige
terracotta (special colour)
Cocoa (special colour)

The third one (PCNA calls this Std leather and Europeans calls it Partial leather) is actually vinyl:
Black
Stone grey
Ocean blue
Sand beige

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Aug 9, 2008 4:28:47 AM

fxhomie: Junior; Loc: Ross Valley, CA , United States; Posts: 59, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 14, 2006; Reply to: middy

Re: Differences in leather quality

I believe std. leather has leather seating surfaces and vinyl bolsters, at least here in NA.

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Aug 9, 2008 5:47:00 AM

Minok: Co-Pilot; Loc: Pacific Northwest; Posts: 263, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 29, 2008; Reply to: fxhomie

Re: Differences in leather quality

There's nothing wrong with synthetics on the non-contact/wear surfaces; the bits in my current car have held up great over 14 years and counting.

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