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Re: 997.2 S Cabriolet
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993Targa said:Quote:
clk said:
.....only thing I don't understand is why this man doesn't SMILEIs he dead
He is German!
Yes, I was about to say that.... and I can, being I'm German myself. That and driving is very serious business to Germans. Notice, no mocca-java in the cup holders or Mc Donalds wrappers on the floor-boards.
That said, as this will by my 1st Porsche in December, the buttons are not intuitive - the bottom row.
[Sport] [Sport Plus] [-shock absorber] ..... [PSM]
I'm assuming the PSM turns off the stability management.
Is the shock button to switch modes on the PASM system?
Sport Plus - is that to turn on and of the sport plus system (throttle response etc).
Sport - is that for the 'Porsche Sport Exhaust' option?
Re: 997.2 S Cabriolet
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Minok said:
I'm assuming the PSM turns off the stability management.
Yes. When LED is lit PSM is off.
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Is the shock button to switch modes on the PASM system?
Yes. When LED is lit PASM is in Sport mode.
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Sport Plus - is that to turn on and of the sport plus system (throttle response etc).
Yes. This is the second level of Sport Chrono with even a more aggressive engine mapping, shifting, launch control.
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Sport - is that for the 'Porsche Sport Exhaust' option?
No. It's the first level of Sport Chrono. They could have used one button w/ 2 LED levels and activated by pushing it in sequence, but they didn't.
Re: 997.2 S Cabriolet
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ADias said:Quote:
Minok said:
I'm assuming the PSM turns off the stability management.
Yes. When LED is lit PSM is off.Quote:
Is the shock button to switch modes on the PASM system?
Yes. When LED is lit PASM is in Sport mode.Quote:
Sport Plus - is that to turn on and of the sport plus system (throttle response etc).
Yes. This is the second level of Sport Chrono with even a more aggressive engine mapping, shifting, launch control.Quote:
Sport - is that for the 'Porsche Sport Exhaust' option?
No. It's the first level of Sport Chrono. They could have used one button w/ 2 LED levels and activated by pushing it in sequence, but they didn't.
Well, some of those buttons are a bit counter intuitive, I'd say, which is a result of their labeling. I would think the common response to a light being on is that whatever the label indicates on the button is 'active'; light off, label is 'deactivated'.
So having the PSM light on -> PSM off seems counter-intuitive. Maybe they should label the button "PSM Override" or something like that.
Ok, so the SportPlus button is the launch control and other PDK specific settings for the Sport Chrono Plus package. The 'Sport' Button is the Sport Chrono Plus first level improvements to throttle response, and the like that applies to PDK and 6spd vehicles.
Clearly the one think Porsche really needs is to hire a 'user interface designer' to help them with their driver control/input system implementations.
Re: 997.2 S Cabriolet
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Minok said:
Maybe they should label the button "PSM Override" or something like that.
They did, it is called PSM off. Should be self-explaining on this board.
I was so far under the impression that Sport Plus does only alter the shifting time and patterns for the PDK box and engages the launch control but does not change settings for PSM, ABS, throttle and revlimiter characteristics. This should only depend on the Sport setting as it does in the 6-speed models as well. Anybody confirm that?
Re: 997.2 S Cabriolet
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Ferdie said:Quote:
Minok said:
Maybe they should label the button "PSM Override" or something like that.
They did, it is called PSM off. Should be self-explaining on this board.
I was so far under the impression that Sport Plus does only alter the shifting time and patterns for the PDK box and engages the launch control but does not change settings for PSM, ABS, throttle and revlimiter characteristics. This should only depend on the Sport setting as it does in the 6-speed models as well. Anybody confirm that?
You are correct. I was not clear on that.
Sprt Chrono Plus offers:
Sport button - (the only button in manual cars) which affects throttle mapping, PSM, and other default settings.
Sport Plus button (only available in PDK cars along with Sport button) - which affects transmission shifting and provides for launch control.
I hope that this is it.
( apparently calling myself an ID10T is a bleep offense)
Calling Bill Moggridge!
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Clearly the one think Porsche really needs is to hire a 'user interface designer' to help them with their driver control/input system implementations.
Agree. But Porsche has from Day 1 had a view that their ergonomics should be designed Jackson Pollock fashion with every button and switch being placed wherever the designer vomited them. And let's not talk about the PDK buttons...
Re: Interior shots
And on the questions mode some more... anyone know why there are 4 ~one cm size dimples on the rear bumper?? (seems to interrupt an otherwise smooth shape).
An observation on the ventilated leather shown: I have had this in a previous car (minus the fans !) and it was a PITA... every grain of sand-size dirt gets stuck in the leather pores, and the only way to get them out is to take a pin and push them into the seat... drove me crazy so would never buy this option.
An observation on the ventilated leather shown: I have had this in a previous car (minus the fans !) and it was a PITA... every grain of sand-size dirt gets stuck in the leather pores, and the only way to get them out is to take a pin and push them into the seat... drove me crazy so would never buy this option.
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