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Jul 29, 2008 8:45:45 AM
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Re: 997.2 C4 S first drive
Everytime I read a magazine report on the C4 vs C2 I become even more confused. Some say the C4 is more planted some say it doesn't handle as sweeetly as the C2, some say it feels less agile etc etc.
Moreover, I have never read a definite conclusion as regards to which is better in dry conditions, although in the wet the C4 has some advantage.
Some swear to the AWD system and some dislike it.
Moreover, I have never read a definite conclusion as regards to which is better in dry conditions, although in the wet the C4 has some advantage.
Some swear to the AWD system and some dislike it.
Re: 997.2 C4 S first drive
It all depends on what the article writers mean when they say "handles sweetly" or "agile".
The typical difference between a 2 and 4 wheel drive is the 4 wheel driven feels more like it is "on rails". If the driver likes the 2wd effects of having the back end want to rotate out a bit, or having the back push the front into a corner, rather than the front pulling itself, then those drivers may define that as 'less agile' or not as 'sweet'.
Which is better? Depends on what you are trying to do.
The typical difference between a 2 and 4 wheel drive is the 4 wheel driven feels more like it is "on rails". If the driver likes the 2wd effects of having the back end want to rotate out a bit, or having the back push the front into a corner, rather than the front pulling itself, then those drivers may define that as 'less agile' or not as 'sweet'.
Which is better? Depends on what you are trying to do.
Re: 997.2 C4 S first drive
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reginos said:
Everytime I read a magazine report on the C4 vs C2 I become even more confused. Some say the C4 is more planted some say it doesn't handle as sweeetly as the C2, some say it feels less agile etc etc.
Moreover, I have never read a definite conclusion as regards to which is better in dry conditions, although in the wet the C4 has some advantage.
Some swear to the AWD system and some dislike it.
Well the 911 is engineered from the ground up to be a RWD and the ability to make the weight bias tail sweep through the corners is beneficial to very experienced drivers who like keeping the momentum of the car through the bends.
The AWD on the other hand limits the driver's control and makes the car steer differently because the front wheels are propelling the car forward.
As far as the 911 goes the AWD bring next to know zero performance enhancements other than acting as a nanny for insecure drivers or offering the comfort of extra traction for people living in geographical areas with distinct seasons.
Jul 30, 2008 1:55:46 AM
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Re: 997.2 C4 S first drive
The performance advantage of AWD is in straight line acceleration: the car can transfer torque from tires to road better.
RWD 911s have very little problems doing this because of the rear weight bias, but as mentioned, under low traction conditions, AWD will win.
Most people think that AWD is helpful in turns. It isn't.
I think the guy who wrote this review doesn't know that much about driving. I could be wrong, but his comments seem to be the usual ones that people who blindly swallow Porsche propaganda perpetuate.
RWD 911s have very little problems doing this because of the rear weight bias, but as mentioned, under low traction conditions, AWD will win.
Most people think that AWD is helpful in turns. It isn't.
I think the guy who wrote this review doesn't know that much about driving. I could be wrong, but his comments seem to be the usual ones that people who blindly swallow Porsche propaganda perpetuate.
Aug 1, 2008 7:07:57 PM
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Re: 997.2 C4 S first drive
Interesting view from Autocar:
http://www.autocarmagazine.co.uk/CarReviews/FirstDrives/Porsche-911-3.6-Carrera-4/234257/
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The entry-level 341bhp 3.6-litre engine is a cracker - arguably sweeter and more tuneful than the 3.8 in the S - and when linked to Porsche's slick six-speed manual gearbox the C4 cabrio doesn't feel all that much slower than the more powerful 3.8. Which is to say that it's actually very quick.
Specifying the optional double-clutch PDK gearbox in theory shaves a couple of tenths off the 0-60mph time, but on the road it's the conventional manual gearbox that works better with the less powerful engine for a crisper, more energetic and more involving experience.
http://www.autocarmagazine.co.uk/CarReviews/FirstDrives/Porsche-911-3.6-Carrera-4/234257/
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