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Re: Pics Schumi and California
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reginos said:
This car will be a big hit for Ferrari.
It will appeal to whole new segment and it will be their first attempt to go cautiously into something more mainstream.
Of course it will be a 'big hit'. That's not hard to do when your marketing strategy is low volume. Ferrari can make anything in low enough quantities and it will be a 'big hit'. I'm sure there will be a long waiting list. That doesn't mean it's a great car. It does mean supply is low.
David
Re: Pics Schumi and California
Car is nice and the volumes are small. Demand will be high.
For me its just another car. With this ugly, heavy roof its just mainstream. BTW the roof comes 8 years to late, I think nowadays the softops will have big future again, as they can me almost as quite but can be much lighter. Furhter on they look better (compare BMW 3 against 1 series convertible when closed).
The only thing which is looking great is the middletunnel, the rest is just a mainstream Ferrari for me.
Anyway - for Schumi its a must. Its commercial for Ferrari and he is Mr. Ferrari himself. So no wonder he has already one.
For me its just another car. With this ugly, heavy roof its just mainstream. BTW the roof comes 8 years to late, I think nowadays the softops will have big future again, as they can me almost as quite but can be much lighter. Furhter on they look better (compare BMW 3 against 1 series convertible when closed).
The only thing which is looking great is the middletunnel, the rest is just a mainstream Ferrari for me.
Anyway - for Schumi its a must. Its commercial for Ferrari and he is Mr. Ferrari himself. So no wonder he has already one.
Re: Pics Schumi and California
Michael Schumacher is currently completing the track and road development stages of the Ferrari California, the new 8-cylinder model due to be officially unveiled at the Paris International Motor Show on October 2nd this year.
The seven times Formula 1 world champion has been involved in the development of the latest Prancing Horse road car since its inception and has worked with Ferrari's team of engineers, technicians and test-drivers on honing the car in general, but more specifically on optimising its performance parameters.
"I have to say that, as with the 430 Scuderia, participating in the project since the very beginning has been really fascinating and great fun," commented Schumacher at the end of a test session at the Fiorano circuit. "Although the cars are very different, they both offer absolutely unique driving pleasure because of the inherently sporty character of all of the cars that come out of Maranello. The 430 Scuderia is, of course, a more extreme model with a focus on absolutely cutting-edge performance. However, although the Ferrari California is very much a Grand Tourer in terms of its usability and high level of interior comfort, it is still surprisingly sporty and fun to drive under any kind of conditions."
Schumacher also recently addressed the Ferrari dealer convention in Maranello and explained the differences between the two 8-cylinders: "They were designed to meet different requirements: the 430 Scuderia is aimed at drivers who want the very essence of a Ferrari and will get it out on the track as often as they can.
"The Ferrari California, on the other hand, is designed for everyday use and for weekends away whilst still guaranteeing all of the emotional impact that only an authentic Ferrari can deliver."
Michael Schumacher's contribution to the development of the Ferrari California has resulted in a car that delivers extraordinary performance: it can accelerate from 0 to 100 km/h in under 4 seconds, delivering superb driving pleasure whilst still being exceptionally comfortable and versatile.
The seven times Formula 1 world champion has been involved in the development of the latest Prancing Horse road car since its inception and has worked with Ferrari's team of engineers, technicians and test-drivers on honing the car in general, but more specifically on optimising its performance parameters.
"I have to say that, as with the 430 Scuderia, participating in the project since the very beginning has been really fascinating and great fun," commented Schumacher at the end of a test session at the Fiorano circuit. "Although the cars are very different, they both offer absolutely unique driving pleasure because of the inherently sporty character of all of the cars that come out of Maranello. The 430 Scuderia is, of course, a more extreme model with a focus on absolutely cutting-edge performance. However, although the Ferrari California is very much a Grand Tourer in terms of its usability and high level of interior comfort, it is still surprisingly sporty and fun to drive under any kind of conditions."
Schumacher also recently addressed the Ferrari dealer convention in Maranello and explained the differences between the two 8-cylinders: "They were designed to meet different requirements: the 430 Scuderia is aimed at drivers who want the very essence of a Ferrari and will get it out on the track as often as they can.
"The Ferrari California, on the other hand, is designed for everyday use and for weekends away whilst still guaranteeing all of the emotional impact that only an authentic Ferrari can deliver."
Michael Schumacher's contribution to the development of the Ferrari California has resulted in a car that delivers extraordinary performance: it can accelerate from 0 to 100 km/h in under 4 seconds, delivering superb driving pleasure whilst still being exceptionally comfortable and versatile.
Re: Pics Schumi and California
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Lars997 said:
Car is nice and the volumes are small. Demand will be high.
For me its just another car. With this ugly, heavy roof its just mainstream. BTW the roof comes 8 years to late, I think nowadays the softops will have big future again, as they can me almost as quite but can be much lighter. Furhter on they look better (compare BMW 3 against 1 series convertible when closed).
Heavy? Hardly. The Cali's hardtop roof is lighter than F430 Spider's soft-top :
"The Ferrari California's retractable hardtop certainly is unique. It weighs just 11 pounds; yes, that's even less than the fabric roof of the F430 Spider. "
and for Ferrari, soft-top is most likely game over, no more :
"Does the folding metal hard-top on the California spell the end of the fabric roof at Ferrari? Maybe. An engineer told me not to expect a true Spider derivative of next year's F430 replacement. Instead a version with an electrically operated targa top could take its place."
The upcoming 599 Spider will be a folding hardtop. The next BMW 6-series will be a folding hardtop as well. Lexus is soon to launch the folding hardtop IS convertible, too. afaic, folding hardtop is the future. They don't like soft-top in the emerging markets, and emerging markets are a big deal for car companies. Russia is already the biggest market in Europe, and the new millionaires coming from China and India are the new target markets, not the troubled US and slowing EU economies anymore.
and Porsche actually owns one of the folding hardtop specialist companies. I wouldn't be surprised if the next Boxster comes with folding hardtop, maybe alongside soft-top.
Some of the specialists are designing folding hardtop for mid-engined cars, not unlike Ferrari's F430 successor.
Re: Pics Schumi and California
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reginos said:
This car will be a big hit for Ferrari.
It will appeal to whole new segment and it will be their first attempt to go cautiously into something more mainstream.
Of course it will be a 'big hit'. That's not hard to do when your marketing strategy is low volume. Ferrari can make anything in low enough quantities and it will be a 'big hit'. I'm sure there will be a long waiting list. That doesn't mean it's a great car. It does mean supply is low.
David
I suspect Ferrari want to increase production to some 10,000 units per year, for the first time.
They will try to hit a balance between exclusivity and more financially viable numbers.
Re: Pics Schumi and California
I love this bit...
engineers / designers / etc had nothing to do with it.
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koko said:...Michael Schumacher's contribution to the development of the Ferrari California has resulted in a car that delivers extraordinary performance: it can accelerate from 0 to 100 km/h in under 4 seconds, delivering superb driving pleasure whilst still being exceptionally comfortable and versatile.
engineers / designers / etc had nothing to do with it.
Re: Pics Schumi and California
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Nico997 said:Quote:
reginos said:
I don't think the car suits him! Maybe a gift for his wife.
And he would keep his Scud...
GREEEAT angle for the Scud !! just look at those lines and those wheels !!
doesnt even look like it came from the same country as the Cali.
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