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    Mercedes AMG...did they sell their soul too?

    AMG Diesel: C30 CDi AMG.





    I really can't see the need of such a car but nowadays what counts is...selling, selling, selling. A shame for AMG.

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    AMG Diesel? what is happening to German engineers first Cayenne now AMG Diesel

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    AMG Diesel? what is happening to German engineers first Cayenne now AMG Diesel

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    Come on guys,
    You said it yourself,
    We live in a money making world.
    Progit is more important than heritage that's all.
    Let's hope Christian is right and that they'll invest the profits in sportier cars though!
    Fanch.

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    Come on guys,
    You said it yourself,
    We live in a money making world.
    Progit is more important than heritage that's all.
    Let's hope Christian is right and that they'll invest the profits in sportier cars though!
    Fanch.

    Re: Mercedes AMG...did they sell their soul too?

    what is the core competence of AMG, what is their philosophy? building sport cars? IMHO not. even though they canned the A21 AMG, these guys have no scruples doing ANYTHING. at least the price tag is high and the engine is kind of powerful. while audi's "quattro GmbH" and BMW's "M GmbH" are modifing a lot more of the car, AMG is basically implementing an egine and adding some aftermarket style bodyworks -- compare the C32 AMG with the M3 or the RS4...

    to me, AMG is kind of a "premium merc", but not a "sporty merc". so i have no problem with an AMG diesel.

    Re: Mercedes AMG...did they sell their soul too?

    what is the core competence of AMG, what is their philosophy? building sport cars? IMHO not. even though they canned the A21 AMG, these guys have no scruples doing ANYTHING. at least the price tag is high and the engine is kind of powerful. while audi's "quattro GmbH" and BMW's "M GmbH" are modifing a lot more of the car, AMG is basically implementing an egine and adding some aftermarket style bodyworks -- compare the C32 AMG with the M3 or the RS4...

    to me, AMG is kind of a "premium merc", but not a "sporty merc". so i have no problem with an AMG diesel.

    Oh boy...

    ...the AMG Owner's Club won't like what you said.

    But I fully agree: because AMG is running some race cars in the DTM, this doesn't mean they sell race cars to customers.
    Their products aren't bad (I love my ML55 and my wife will probably get a SLK 32 AMG next year) but I don't consider them to be real sports cars. The SL 55 and the E 55 are that heavy...AMG limits them at 300 kph because of the tires. And I can't consider a car at almost 2 tons of weight to be a sports car.

    Oh boy...

    ...the AMG Owner's Club won't like what you said.

    But I fully agree: because AMG is running some race cars in the DTM, this doesn't mean they sell race cars to customers.
    Their products aren't bad (I love my ML55 and my wife will probably get a SLK 32 AMG next year) but I don't consider them to be real sports cars. The SL 55 and the E 55 are that heavy...AMG limits them at 300 kph because of the tires. And I can't consider a car at almost 2 tons of weight to be a sports car.

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    Totally agree zzboba!

    I have to admit that I really have an admiration for BMW's M division, they are the only ones that were able (with the M5) to offer a comfortable executive saloon that handles like a sports car.


    Re: Mercedes AMG...did they sell their soul too?

    Totally agree zzboba!

    I have to admit that I really have an admiration for BMW's M division, they are the only ones that were able (with the M5) to offer a comfortable executive saloon that handles like a sports car.


    Re: they probably would kick me out immediately [no text]

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    So never buy a AMG Mercedes...you'll never get the chance to be a member of the AMG Owner's Club.

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    So never buy a AMG Mercedes...you'll never get the chance to be a member of the AMG Owner's Club.

    Credit MB with the 300 SEL 6.3

    It was the fastest 4 dr. sedan of its time (69-71). I had a 1970 model and that V-8 would perform, maybe the first M5-type sedan. The 6.9 that followed got a bit too heavy as I recall.

    Credit MB with the 300 SEL 6.3

    It was the fastest 4 dr. sedan of its time (69-71). I had a 1970 model and that V-8 would perform, maybe the first M5-type sedan. The 6.9 that followed got a bit too heavy as I recall.

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    Back in 1969, AMG didn't make part of Mercedes. They were an independent Mercedes Tuner. Now AMG is like an old lion who still looks impressive and proud but lost his teeth.

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    Back in 1969, AMG didn't make part of Mercedes. They were an independent Mercedes Tuner. Now AMG is like an old lion who still looks impressive and proud but lost his teeth.

    Wht good is a toothless lion??

    Guess you wouldn't recommend the AMG club to me either?

    Well at least they haven't kicked me out of the PCD (yet).

    S.

    Wht good is a toothless lion??

    Guess you wouldn't recommend the AMG club to me either?

    Well at least they haven't kicked me out of the PCD (yet).

    S.

    I like the old lion analogy. (NM)

    NM.

    I like the old lion analogy. (NM)

    NM.

    Re: Wht good is a toothless lion??

    I have to make a big compliment to the Porsche Clubs and Porsche itself: as much as I had my problems with them, they never kicked me out or talked in a unrespectful manner to me. They always have been fair and tried to help, one thing I really appreciate about Porsche. I'm not talking about dealers but the boys and girls out there working for the factory.

    Re: Wht good is a toothless lion??

    I have to make a big compliment to the Porsche Clubs and Porsche itself: as much as I had my problems with them, they never kicked me out or talked in a unrespectful manner to me. They always have been fair and tried to help, one thing I really appreciate about Porsche. I'm not talking about dealers but the boys and girls out there working for the factory.

     
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