New 997 - full specs
The full technical specs are available below, and our first impressions will be published on DR in the next hour.
http://www.drivers-republic.com/pdf/DR_911_Carrera_Coupe_Cabrio_GB.pdf
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Porsche's new double-clutch transmission comes with seven forward and one reverse gear.
Gears 1 - 6 have a sporting and dynamic ratio, with the car reaching its top speed in sixth
gear. The seventh gear, therefore, features a long transmission ratio in the interest of enhanced
fuel economy.
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Shifting gears on the selector lever or directly on the steering wheel
The driver of a new 911 Carrera with PDK transmission is able to use the very helpful func -
tions of the double-clutch transmission either via gearshift paddles on the steering wheel
spokes of the newly developed PDK steering wheel measuring 370 millimetres or 14.6''
across or through the selector lever in the centre console also coming in new design. The
steering wheel in its sporting three-spoke design features two ergonomically arranged gear -
shift paddles operated by pressing either forwards or backwards and thus allowing precise
and intuitive use in all positions of the steering wheel. Pressing the paddles from the front,
the driver shifts up, pressing the paddles from behind the steering wheel, he shifts down to
a lower gear. In either case it is irrelevant whether the driver uses the right or left paddle.
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ed_moree said:
Thanks and good job for the 24H of Nurburgring report! I will really like to know if you agree with me than in a car with the accelerations like the 911 is better changing gears up, with the stick (I'm talking about the PDK of course), by pulling to you than pushing forward. And all this due to the inertia created by the acceleration. thanks
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ed_moree said:
Thanks and good job for the 24H of Nurburgring report! I will really like to know if you agree with me than in a car with the accelerations like the 911 is better changing gears up, with the stick (I'm talking about the PDK of course), by pulling to you than pushing forward. And all this due to the inertia created by the acceleration. thanks
When you drive a manual car you change up or down sometimes by pushing sometimes by pulling depending on which gear you want to engage. I cannot really see the relevance of this "pull vs push" debate.
Jun 6, 2008 3:12:06 PM
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reginos said:Quote:
ed_moree said:
Thanks and good job for the 24H of Nurburgring report! I will really like to know if you agree with me than in a car with the accelerations like the 911 is better changing gears up, with the stick (I'm talking about the PDK of course), by pulling to you than pushing forward. And all this due to the inertia created by the acceleration. thanks
When you drive a manual car you change up or down sometimes by pushing sometimes by pulling depending on which gear you want to engage. I cannot really see the relevance of this "pull vs push" debate.
+1 just as if first gear is in fron or in the back....you get used to it.
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ed_moree said:
Thanks and good job for the 24H of Nurburgring report! I will really like to know if you agree with me than in a car with the accelerations like the 911 is better changing gears up, with the stick (I'm talking about the PDK of course), by pulling to you than pushing forward. And all this due to the inertia created by the acceleration. thanks
When you drive a manual car you change up or down sometimes by pushing sometimes by pulling depending on which gear you want to engage. I cannot really see the relevance of this "pull vs push" debate.
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ed_moree said:
Thanks and good job for the 24H of Nurburgring report! I will really like to know if you agree with me than in a car with the accelerations like the 911 is better changing gears up, with the stick (I'm talking about the PDK of course), by pulling to you than pushing forward. And all this due to the inertia created by the acceleration. thanks
When you drive a manual car you change up or down sometimes by pushing sometimes by pulling depending on which gear you want to engage. I cannot really see the relevance of this "pull vs push" debate.
Jun 7, 2008 7:23:59 PM
Jun 7, 2008 9:02:32 PM
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Ron (Houston) said:
I personally think these button/paddles or whatever on the steering wheel is very logical.
If you really think about it while driving your hands won't loose contact with the steering wheel at all, wheather is down-shift or up-shift.
I like it to be honest. It may not look as cool as the paddles we see in Ferrari or BMW or Aston but its practicality is beyond looks.
Jun 7, 2008 9:07:49 PM
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Ron (Houston) said:
I like it to be honest. It may not look as cool as the paddles we see in Ferrari .........
Jun 7, 2008 9:47:11 PM
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KresoF1 said:
You simply can not talk about practicality before you try it for yourself. How sensitive the puddles(paddles-buttons) are? We do not know it yet. How fast is the response? Very fast? I hope so...
Other rumor that I do not like at all is what version is actually faster around Ring... How about this-Sport Auto already requested 997S with PCCB, PASM Sport and PDK for Supertest BUT... Porsche said that they will send the fastest version...
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It will be interesting to find out. Chris Harris will be performing our review and filming the test, so I'll post a link when its up later in the week.
Hey! Where did Monkey Boy end up? I've missed him from from Autocar and GTPP.
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ed_moree said:
Thanks and good job for the 24H of Nurburgring report! I will really like to know if you agree with me than in a car with the accelerations like the 911 is better changing gears up, with the stick (I'm talking about the PDK of course), by pulling to you than pushing forward. And all this due to the inertia created by the acceleration. thanks
When you drive a manual car you change up or down sometimes by pushing sometimes by pulling depending on which gear you want to engage. I cannot really see the relevance of this "pull vs push" debate.
Excellent observation.
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reginos said:Quote:
ed_moree said:
Thanks and good job for the 24H of Nurburgring report! I will really like to know if you agree with me than in a car with the accelerations like the 911 is better changing gears up, with the stick (I'm talking about the PDK of course), by pulling to you than pushing forward. And all this due to the inertia created by the acceleration. thanks
When you drive a manual car you change up or down sometimes by pushing sometimes by pulling depending on which gear you want to engage. I cannot really see the relevance of this "pull vs push" debate.
Excellent observation.
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ADias said:Quote:
reginos said:Quote:
ed_moree said:
Thanks and good job for the 24H of Nurburgring report! I will really like to know if you agree with me than in a car with the accelerations like the 911 is better changing gears up, with the stick (I'm talking about the PDK of course), by pulling to you than pushing forward. And all this due to the inertia created by the acceleration. thanks
When you drive a manual car you change up or down sometimes by pushing sometimes by pulling depending on which gear you want to engage. I cannot really see the relevance of this "pull vs push" debate.
Excellent observation.
"But with the lever you push forwards to go up and pull back to go down, in other words the opposite to a race car 'box and, I reckon, the opposite to common sense. Try braking hard and trying a downshift and needing to pull the lever backwards as your body is being pushed forwards - it ain't natural. They've bucked convention with the paddles too, just like the old Tiptronic, each paddle can go up or down a gear. I'm fascinated to see how this works in progress, because on paper, it looks all wrong to me."
Chris Harris - New Porsche 911 Carrera - First Impressions
Couldn't have said it better myself...
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You missed the point - the pertinent observation made by reginos. With a manual you have the odd gears moving forward and the even backwards. Half the time you upshift (or downshift) is in either direction. Doesn't the "inertia" argument apply to conventional H-pattern manuals? Of course it does, and the answer is it does not matter.
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You missed the point - the pertinent observation made by reginos. With a manual you have the odd gears moving forward and the even backwards. Half the time you upshift (or downshift) is in either direction. Doesn't the "inertia" argument apply to conventional H-pattern manuals? Of course it does, and the answer is it does not matter.
I seem to remember that the early BMW steptronics used the same logic, i.e. changing down involved pulling the lever backwards, whilst changing up was achieved by moving it forwards. There wasn't just the interia argument , which somehow was more of an issue than with an H-pattern manual, but also the counter-intuitive sense of which way to move the lever.
Rather like rubbing your stomach with one hand and patting your head with the other, it was harder to do than initially expected, and I ended up reverting back to just driving it as an auto.
It may well be a matter of personal preference, so we may have to wait and listen to owners' feedback rather than the views of a journalist.
Jun 9, 2008 9:22:41 AM
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SteveD said:
The full technical specs are available below, and our first impressions will be published on DR in the next hour.
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SteveD said:
Just heard the news straight from the Head of Engine Development on the new 997, that there will be 'no more RMS engine issues on the 911'. That's a promise apparently.
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SteveD said:
Just heard the news straight from the Head of Engine Development on the new 997, that there will be 'no more RMS engine issues on the 911'. That's a promise apparently.
I assumed that would be a priority with the new crankcase design. I think those RMS problems cost the company alot of money in warranty work...
Jun 12, 2008 9:25:41 PM
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SteveD said:
Just heard the news straight from the Head of Engine Development on the new 997, that there will be 'no more RMS engine issues on the 911'. That's a promise apparently.