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    24 avr. 2008 07:11:05

    GnilM
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    Re: More on the Red Reflector and the engine

    Quote:
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    Quote:
    Seraphim said:
    Is the reflector/stripe for the 4 or 4S or 997FL as a whole?



    I heard from my dealer today that all carrera models will be wide body?! I wonder how true is this. I would expect C2S and C4S to be wide body, but not all carrera range.



    I would not be happy with a C2S widebody... I prefer the narrow body , it makes the car look more agile and more in tune with it's power range. I do not like it when it's over done for no performance reason

    24 avr. 2008 08:56:34

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    Re: More on the Red Reflector and the engine

    Quote:
    Gnil said:
    Quote:
    rfakhri said:
    Quote:
    Seraphim said:
    Is the reflector/stripe for the 4 or 4S or 997FL as a whole?



    I heard from my dealer today that all carrera models will be wide body?! I wonder how true is this. I would expect C2S and C4S to be wide body, but not all carrera range.



    I would not be happy with a C2S widebody... I prefer the narrow body , it makes the car look more agile and more in tune with it's power range. I do not like it when it's over done for no performance reason



    It would also be no faster than the 355 PS C2S on the Autobahn.

    24 avr. 2008 09:06:25

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    Re: More on the Red Reflector and the engine

    Widebody looks to much like Koenig-Tunig out of the late 80s. Dont like it at all!

    24 avr. 2008 23:23:07

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    Re: Facelift timeline

    Here are the changes for Model Year 2009 that include Launch Control, incresed HP, and MOSTLY, PDK (paddles)

    Rennteam note: Sorry guys, we had to remove this file but I guess this isn't a problem since the specs are already out.

    24 avr. 2008 23:57:55

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    En réponse de: cc08gt2

    Re: Facelift timeline

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    Here are the changes for Model Year 2009 that include Launch Control, incresed HP, and MOSTLY, PDK (paddles)



    Very cool Doc Thanks for sharing dude.

    25 avr. 2008 00:04:37

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    Re: Facelift timeline

    Brilliant...thanks!

    Launch control and race strategy shifting sound very promising.

    Any idea on widebody styles?

    25 avr. 2008 00:23:03

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    Re: Facelift timeline

    The important items are:

    * Seat ventilation for standard and comfort seats(541)
    * Steering wheel heating, only in conj. w. seat heating and PDK(345)

    I can see current owners drooling over these.

    25 avr. 2008 00:35:44

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    Re: Facelift timeline

    a lot of new techs.
    Worry:
    1. Pricing
    2. Reliability (Look at all the F cars)
    I am sure it will be much faster and fancier.

    25 avr. 2008 00:58:29

    Ron (Houston)M
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    Re: Facelift timeline

    Quote:
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    a lot of new techs.
    Worry:
    1. Pricing
    2. Reliability (Look at all the F cars)
    I am sure it will be much faster and fancier.



    Fianlly iPod integration .

    25 avr. 2008 01:19:07

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    Re: Facelift timeline

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    Fianlly iPod integration .



    I bet that option will cost more than the highest priced iPod.

    25 avr. 2008 01:19:51

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    Re: Facelift timeline

    Quote:
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    Here are the changes for Model Year 2009 that include Launch Control, incresed HP, and MOSTLY, PDK (paddles)



    Gracias!!! Made my day!!!

    I like it. Not a lazy facelift. Ambitious!

    25 avr. 2008 01:29:43

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    Re: Facelift timeline

    Now... If you search my posts for the past 18 months I predicted the FL would appear at this time, while many were claiming it would take much longer - NOT.

    Another prediction... we'll shortly see an oversupply of used 997s on the market, which will depress valuations further. It happened with the 996 and it will be worse with the 997 (because there are more of those out there).

    25 avr. 2008 01:48:33

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    Re: Facelift timeline

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    Now... If you search my posts for the past 18 months I predicted the FL would appear at this time, while many were claiming it would take much longer - NOT.

    Another prediction... we'll shortly see an oversupply of used 997s on the market, which will depress valuations further. It happened with the 996 and it will be worse with the 997 (because there are more of those out there).





    Yep, and now we know why manufacturers change body styles. Cause people like me gotta have the next thing. I will do a post when my 09 turbo with PDK paddles hits the states.

    25 avr. 2008 02:13:07

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    En réponse de: cc08gt2

    Re: Facelift timeline

    Larger wheel width and offset at rear for 18-inch Carrera IV wheels on C2 models
    (10.5J x 18 ET 60)

    does that mean all models will be wide body?

    25 avr. 2008 03:04:17

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    Re: Facelift timeline

    Somebody, somewhere, broke the Porsche embargo

    All the goodies are out in an official PDF, the one mentioned in some posts above, including starting production dates.

    The only unknowns are the price, the PDK interior design, and the actual performance.

    25 avr. 2008 03:14:18

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    Re: Facelift timeline

    >100.000 997s have hit the streets worldwide, but I guess the FL will be a lot more expensive. At least with PDK and all extras. That will work against a severe price drop for the current 997.

    25 avr. 2008 03:51:08

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    Re: Facelift timeline

    Thank you very much cc08gt2, can you possibly get the MY 2009 987S pdf?

    25 avr. 2008 04:32:25

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    Re: Facelift timeline

    Thank you!!! How on Earth did you get a hold of this document?

    I'm so excited for Porsche!

    25 avr. 2008 04:40:53

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    Re: Facelift timeline

    Is it guaranteed a launch control system will be part of the entire 911 lineup?

    25 avr. 2008 05:52:52

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    Re: Facelift timeline

    Thanks for leaking that document!

    Did anyone notice that: LSD standard on C4 models?
    (optional on C2)
    Sports suspension with LSD now available in the US!

    Also new colors:
    Aqua blue metallic
    Cream white (maybe similar to Caffe latte?)
    Nordic gold now a special color.

    New PCM with touchscreen, Bluetooth, iPod input, TV, XM radio, black finish (bye bye Vulcan Grey)
    Third-party sat nav in Japan and China

    And last but not least, NEW KEY!

    25 avr. 2008 06:13:27

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    Re: Facelift timeline

    Launch control, iPod integration, seat ventilation, steering-wheel heating... How exciting!

    25 avr. 2008 06:30:22

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    Re: Facelift timeline

    Quote:
    ADias said:
    The important items are:

    * Seat ventilation for standard and comfort seats(541)
    * Steering wheel heating, only in conj. w. seat heating and PDK(345)

    I can see current owners drooling over these.



    ..and specialy TV display No more need to go on the track..

    Our US friends will be now happy to be able to get -20mm

    25 avr. 2008 06:35:16

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    Re: Facelift timeline

    ooo... cant wait for more info!

    I like the TV option. always jealous of my fiend's BMW TV.
    hope they make the screen bigger tho.

    u guys have more info than I could squeeze from my dealer.
    keep them coming!

    25 avr. 2008 06:42:34

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    Re: Facelift timeline

    who will want to watch TV in a Porsche... ey ey ey

    + 30 HP sounds promising and 7 speed PDK thats what we wanted to see. Sure that that performance is much better with that setup.

    Wasnt sure if I really want to have a new car but this sounds soooo promising... eyyyy want it

    25 avr. 2008 07:04:47

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    Re: Facelift timeline

    PDK linked with Sports Chrono will be a sport set up.... that puts this option back on my list , but the new improved manual gearbox should be a dream , as the 'old' on is already so good .. so

    25 avr. 2008 07:50:36

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    Re: Facelift timeline

    Who can answer these questions:

    - What is Drive off assist ?
    - What is different with the '' Optimised manual gearbox '' ?
    - What color is Aqua Blue Metallic ? any pics ?

    25 avr. 2008 08:29:57

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    Re: Facelift timeline

    holly sh!t

    That pdf document WAS top secret

    amazing news, specially the 7 speed PDK with special designed gear selectors....

    Will the rear led lights be ALL RED?????, that would be awesome !!!

    thanks for that amazing info !!!!!

    25 avr. 2008 08:34:01

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    Re: Facelift timeline

    Great news!
    Rennteam is first in the world once again! I love this place!

    25 avr. 2008 08:45:39

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    Re: Facelift timeline

    Quote:
    Gnil said:

    - What is Drive off assist ?




    Gnil, I guess it's a launch control for the traffic light racers

    The whistle blower better looks for a new job

    25 avr. 2008 08:55:03

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    Re: Facelift timeline

    Many thanks!

    Impressive...the pdf, though also this forum!

     
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